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Jakes Progress

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40. Well.
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 01:06 AM
Mar 2018

Last edited Thu Mar 8, 2018, 11:51 PM - Edit history (1)

If all you care about is your own welfare, this can work for you. The same way the recent tax cuts worked for the middle class. You will get some more money, keep jobs for a few more years. Your bosses will buy the Mercedes with the leather lined trunk. And all of those not working in steel, but with steel, will see their jobs go overseas. You will, to a degree, certainly help your members and yourselves.

But in the great heyday of unions, back when they actually wielded clout and didn't have to grovel to some orange monkey for giving them a favor (which he didn't intend), back in those days, what made unions powerful was solidarity. When group of workers needed help, unions with more clout joined with them, had their backs. And it was reciprocated. Unions work when pilots strike with stewardesses, when truckers strike with printers. If a union is just another self-interest group willing to make a deal with whatever bigwig will bless them with a couple months of work, then they become the same as corporations, but without the life span.

Better than getting trump to toss you crumbs would be a union movement that would make it impossible for him to build a hotel with foreign steel (which he has done exclusively) because no steeplejack would climb Chinese steel, no welder would torch Mexican steel.

(It is all moot anyway. Once your hero has his win in the November elections, he will go back to getting cheap steel wherever he can. Your gratitude is a political tool for him. Your trust and fawning are misplaced.)

Al Baldasaro is a Grade-A fruitcake. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2018 #1
and Levi agrees with him. nt DURHAM D Mar 2018 #2
..on this issue TheCowsCameHome Mar 2018 #15
Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #3
non-sequitor nastiness for no purpose except to alienate fellow dmeocrats on this board who JCanete Mar 2018 #4
Hating Bernie for what his son said? Ho hum left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #5
Actually, Tavarious Jackson Mar 2018 #36
Another bank shot at Bernie and, KPN Mar 2018 #6
LOL NurseJackie Mar 2018 #9
Levi Sanders is a snake. Maven Mar 2018 #7
Correct... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #8
Levi Sanders is not a Dem. Don't lecture me on purity test bullshit. He just is not a Dem. ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #10
Well, reality is, anyone who registers Dem IS a Dem. Hortensis Mar 2018 #22
I think i agree with you. trueblue2007 Mar 2018 #31
What union is he a member of? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #11
Recommended (gleefully) BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Jakes Progress Mar 2018 #13
levi is a weasel. Jakes Progress Mar 2018 #14
Agree. Disagreement with Levi should be levied at Levi. Hortensis Mar 2018 #23
People have very short (or selective) memories. former9thward Mar 2018 #16
Bernie Would Be The First One to Disagree... TomCADem Mar 2018 #18
Thanks again for pointing out these unexplainable R B Garr Mar 2018 #19
Nonsense to tariffs as "THE official position" of Democratic Party! Hortensis Mar 2018 #20
There is a huge difference between targeted tariffs to correct unfair trade & the Trump's crude "add FSogol Mar 2018 #21
Sure. What nations DON'T use tariffs as they feel needed? Hortensis Mar 2018 #24
It's not about tariffs. It's about workers. Jakes Progress Mar 2018 #25
You are saying the same things the far right is saying. former9thward Mar 2018 #27
You are wrong. Jakes Progress Mar 2018 #29
The United Steelworkers Union former9thward Mar 2018 #30
Thanks for honoring fair-use. OilemFirchen Mar 2018 #32
Yes, So if Canada is exempted, will you support the tariffs? former9thward Mar 2018 #33
It would be a good start. OilemFirchen Mar 2018 #34
Actually if you read the union statement former9thward Mar 2018 #35
Well. Jakes Progress Mar 2018 #40
From my understanding, trump pulled the tariff thing out of his ass to change the subject, ecstatic Mar 2018 #37
What "long line of coutries have announced realiation"? former9thward Mar 2018 #38
I think you're missing the point ecstatic Mar 2018 #39
Tariffs are not a good idea Gothmog Mar 2018 #17
Who did you support in the 2016 primary? former9thward Mar 2018 #28
You have a naive and simple concept of tariff. Jakes Progress Mar 2018 #41
So do not vote for him in the Primary?? There are alternatives Freethinker65 Mar 2018 #26
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