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Gormy Cuss

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10. Comparing persons on "foodstamps" with number of new jobs is just stupid.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:29 PM
Jul 2012

Last edited Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:56 PM - Edit history (1)

I'm talking about this statement:

At the individual level, 46.5 million Americans lived off foodstamps, a 222,157 increase in the month, or nearly three times the number of people who found jobs in June according to the BLS.


Here's why. First, it compares individuals in households (a mixture of adults and children) to labor force participants (adults.) Comparing the household change number would be somewhat better but still weak because not all of those households have likely labor force participants (e.g. many households with only disabled adults or low income seniors.)

Second, it compares new job finders to those on assistance as if a new job render persons ineligible for SNAP benefits. Approximately 30% of heads of households receiving SNAP benefits are employed yet still qualify for some assistance because of low wages. Unless all of those new jobs are full time and/or higher wage positions some of the new job finders may still be eligible for SNAP.

And on a related note, I assume the writer is being facetious about average benefits creeping up because higher average benefits generally mean that average income of recipients has gone down, thus qualifying more recipients for higher benefits.
Yeap, Gerorge Bush Fucked Up America....Obama is fixing it slowly.... uponit7771 Jul 2012 #1
The rise in disability is concerning taught_me_patience Jul 2012 #2
Of course they are, and a very lucrative industry has sprung up around it. The fallacy that eludes Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #3
Living on $1071.00 in SSDI plus $16.00 for food stamps a month is no picnic. Kaleva Jul 2012 #13
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to imply that SSDI was in any way a bad thing at all, Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #19
what would you suggest people who can't find work do? HiPointDem Jul 2012 #5
I'm not sure taught_me_patience Jul 2012 #8
unfortunately, if it's that or starvation/homelessness, people will do what they have to do, and HiPointDem Jul 2012 #9
Agreed and the amazing Iggy Jul 2012 #6
This ProSense Jul 2012 #7
We have an aging population gollygee Jul 2012 #12
It's probably a part of it for sure n/t. taught_me_patience Jul 2012 #15
Disability was not easy to get. NightWatcher Jul 2012 #16
The stats do not say which disability programs they are counting. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2012 #17
Ahh, America Iggy Jul 2012 #4
Comparing persons on "foodstamps" with number of new jobs is just stupid. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #10
+1 leftstreet Jul 2012 #18
Blame it on low wages. FarLeftFist Jul 2012 #11
Good lord. Those charts look as if a tidal wave is forming. Romulox Jul 2012 #14
Well, you can't say the government doesn't help its people. nt nanabugg Jul 2012 #20
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