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In reply to the discussion: If you believe Russia hacked our voting machines but didnt change votes, [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)39. They didn't need to hack voting machines - just the voter databases
If you can stop the vote from happening when they check in and are not on the list of registered voters, that's much easier than trying to change or erase the vote after the fact.
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If you believe Russia hacked our voting machines but didnt change votes, [View all]
onecaliberal
Feb 2018
OP
Since the FBI investigation uncovering the Russian 13 did not start until early 2016 and was not
Fred Sanders
Feb 2018
#28
Correct - which is why I jump in with a clarification every time this gets rehashed.
Ms. Toad
Feb 2018
#66
The are multiple KGB or FSB operations going on at once, many have been planned for decades
Eliot Rosewater
Feb 2018
#78
I understand your frustration ... but Voting Registration systems are 'connected'
mr_lebowski
Mar 2018
#128
there has been NO INVESTIGATION of this either, so it's not surprising nobody found anything. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2018
#98
I wonder if they could have added registrations, and then somehow "voted" with those
Tess49
Feb 2018
#44
Exactly. The assertion that they hacked in the machines to do nothing is delusional.
onecaliberal
Feb 2018
#7
They didn't "hacked in the machines to do nothing"...THEY DIDN'T HACK THE MACHINES!
brooklynite
Feb 2018
#9
"That which can be asserted without evidence can be discounted without evidence"
brooklynite
Feb 2018
#114
i'm not saying they DID hack the machines, only that it is very likely, given what we know about
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2018
#116
Computerized voting/tabulation is non-transparent. Our votes cannot be guaranteed to be
diva77
Mar 2018
#124
I don't believe they hacked voting machines. Someone locally might have, although I think vote
Hoyt
Feb 2018
#8
They DID hack 8 states. Im watching the reporting on it right now. My state was one of them.
onecaliberal
Feb 2018
#10
They "hacked" registration systems poking around, but I've not seen any evidence they changed votes.
Hoyt
Feb 2018
#11
You mean like they did in 2000!?!? Please with this bullshit line of thinking
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#73
Plenty, in 2000 Florida voters were purged and we didn't know till after the election
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#87
"news organizations" haven't dug into those states like they did in Florida. Again
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#91
I didn't know about the FL purge until nearly a year after the 2k election when it was confirmed
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#97
Yes, but that's not "hacking votes" as plenty of folks here bluntly assert...
brooklynite
Feb 2018
#19
That's what I think. Blaming our loss on vote changing just sets us up to lose again. We do need
Hoyt
Feb 2018
#22
So you are content to figure that when the Russians got into the registration files.....
ollie10
Feb 2018
#25
No, I'm content to try to address what ACTUALLY happened and not engage in fantasies...
brooklynite
Feb 2018
#30
What actually happened is that the Russians got into the registration files of several states
ollie10
Feb 2018
#45
+1, the "they didn't do anything that affected the election" line of thinkign is assinine
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#74
And, then, you would have had people turned away from polls. Where I live, the only people turned
Hoyt
Feb 2018
#21
But you can delete voter info, or make it so some Dems can only vote with povisional ballots when...
brush
Feb 2018
#48
My point was trump got just enough votes to swing those states. Seems pretty well calculated...
brush
Feb 2018
#68
It says in "at least" once case, leaving the possibility open that there were other cases
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#47
can't disagree. politicians are "team players," if they're anything. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2018
#100
Maybe because they could fool us better by "merely" changing the registrations of some.
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#31
Recall right after the election, Trump sent his minions to key states to thwart any effort
Chakaconcarne
Feb 2018
#32
"If you believe Russia hacked our voting machines but didn't change votes ....
LenaBaby61
Feb 2018
#33
Look at the numbers out of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin...I don't know there will ever be
Demsrule86
Feb 2018
#65
Right, white working class voters in the rust belt NEVER vote Republican...
brooklynite
Feb 2018
#79
All those places across the country where the vote did not match the exit polls is a real clue.
Botany
Feb 2018
#49
hate to break it to you, but exit polls USED to be accurate; something changed in 2000. go figure.
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2018
#101
Of COURSE that's what happened. And NOW...the fed has a list of reg. voters to give them...
Honeycombe8
Feb 2018
#60
Ever since HAVA ... Help America Vote Act* .... we have seen a red state shift in the vote even ...
Botany
Feb 2018
#80
I don't know about McConnell's win but Scott Walker's "win" in the recall race smelled really bad.
Botany
Feb 2018
#93
I agree, it doesn't make sense Russian hackers didn't do the one most effective thing - change votes
50 Shades Of Blue
Feb 2018
#76
+1, or even more effective is to purge voters like was done in Florida 2000. GOP is greasy
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#88
So after all that's come out in regards to what Russia did with DNC emails and social
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#89
This is why they have to fight the notion that the election was stolen...because they can't blame
Demsrule86
Feb 2018
#106
do you recall any forensic examination of machines, hard/software, or comprehensive, state-wide hand
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2018
#113
I dont believe it either. Who the hell thinks Russia or trump are trustworthy.
onecaliberal
Feb 2018
#120