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onecaliberal

(32,483 posts)
7. Exactly. The assertion that they hacked in the machines to do nothing is delusional.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:31 AM
Feb 2018

Their base is so stupid they’ll actually believe any ridiculous thing they’re told.

Right on! PJMcK Feb 2018 #1
Since the FBI investigation uncovering the Russian 13 did not start until early 2016 and was not Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #28
President Obama, PJMck Cha Mar 2018 #126
There has been NO ACCUSATION of Russia hacking voting machines.... brooklynite Feb 2018 #2
Yes, that was my understanding PatSeg Feb 2018 #52
Correct - which is why I jump in with a clarification every time this gets rehashed. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #66
The are multiple KGB or FSB operations going on at once, many have been planned for decades Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #78
Eliot, of course saidsimplesimon Feb 2018 #107
I understand your frustration ... but Voting Registration systems are 'connected' mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #128
there has been NO INVESTIGATION of this either, so it's not surprising nobody found anything. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #98
Didn't need to actually change votes.... ollie10 Feb 2018 #3
Theyre going to do it again in 2018 with a vengeance. onecaliberal Feb 2018 #5
Yes. I am afraid you are right.... ollie10 Feb 2018 #15
Beg to differ. luvtheGWN Feb 2018 #51
I wonder if they could have added registrations, and then somehow "voted" with those Tess49 Feb 2018 #44
They did get into voter lists True Blue American Feb 2018 #55
+1, like what happened in Florida in 2000 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #70
If you mischaracterize things it's easy to make absurd claims. mythology Feb 2018 #4
I have been hammered on this point, but fully agree with you! chuckstevens Feb 2018 #6
Exactly. The assertion that they hacked in the machines to do nothing is delusional. onecaliberal Feb 2018 #7
They didn't "hacked in the machines to do nothing"...THEY DIDN'T HACK THE MACHINES! brooklynite Feb 2018 #9
you don't know that. don't act like you do. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #99
we don't know because no one ever checked questionseverything Feb 2018 #108
you don't know that. stonecutter357 Feb 2018 #110
"That which can be asserted without evidence can be discounted without evidence" brooklynite Feb 2018 #114
i'm not saying they DID hack the machines, only that it is very likely, given what we know about TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #116
Computerized voting/tabulation is non-transparent. Our votes cannot be guaranteed to be diva77 Mar 2018 #124
Speaking of believing any ridiculous thing you're told... FBaggins Feb 2018 #17
Can you prove otherwise? think4yourself Mar 2018 #125
Never heard of the burden of proof fallacy, eh? nt FBaggins Mar 2018 #130
I think they may have accessed central tabulators as well. triron Feb 2018 #41
I think so, too meow2u3 Feb 2018 #50
Wisconsin has same day registration forthemiddle Feb 2018 #54
Unless of course, they vote later in the day because they work. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #82
Even if you vote later in the day you can still register the day you vote dflprincess Mar 2018 #122
The robber cracked the ATM but didnt kairos12 Feb 2018 #62
+1, cause they just want a big list of American names ? / sarcasm uponit7771 Feb 2018 #71
I don't believe they hacked voting machines. Someone locally might have, although I think vote Hoyt Feb 2018 #8
They DID hack 8 states. Im watching the reporting on it right now. My state was one of them. onecaliberal Feb 2018 #10
They "hacked" registration systems poking around, but I've not seen any evidence they changed votes. Hoyt Feb 2018 #11
Yeah they hacked for shits and giggles. onecaliberal Feb 2018 #12
You can't change votes in the voter database... brooklynite Feb 2018 #13
But you could delete people's names from the lists? ollie10 Feb 2018 #16
And then assasinate them all before they reported it? FBaggins Feb 2018 #18
You mean like they did in 2000!?!? Please with this bullshit line of thinking uponit7771 Feb 2018 #73
Was that supposed to make sense? FBaggins Feb 2018 #84
Plenty, in 2000 Florida voters were purged and we didn't know till after the election uponit7771 Feb 2018 #87
"Didn't know until after the election"?? FBaggins Feb 2018 #90
"news organizations" haven't dug into those states like they did in Florida. Again uponit7771 Feb 2018 #91
Sorry. Your memory is faulty FBaggins Feb 2018 #95
I didn't know about the FL purge until nearly a year after the 2k election when it was confirmed uponit7771 Feb 2018 #97
Yes, but that's not "hacking votes" as plenty of folks here bluntly assert... brooklynite Feb 2018 #19
That's what I think. Blaming our loss on vote changing just sets us up to lose again. We do need Hoyt Feb 2018 #22
So you are content to figure that when the Russians got into the registration files..... ollie10 Feb 2018 #25
No, I'm content to try to address what ACTUALLY happened and not engage in fantasies... brooklynite Feb 2018 #30
What actually happened is that the Russians got into the registration files of several states ollie10 Feb 2018 #45
I absolutely agree... brooklynite Feb 2018 #56
Didn't say anything about votes changing ollie10 Feb 2018 #58
+1, the "they didn't do anything that affected the election" line of thinkign is assinine uponit7771 Feb 2018 #74
And, then, you would have had people turned away from polls. Where I live, the only people turned Hoyt Feb 2018 #21
But you can delete voter info, or make it so some Dems can only vote with povisional ballots when... brush Feb 2018 #48
Here are the percentages cilla4progress Feb 2018 #67
My point was trump got just enough votes to swing those states. Seems pretty well calculated... brush Feb 2018 #68
you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 Feb 2018 #112
They affected the vote counts where they changed some registration information. pnwmom Feb 2018 #29
"no votes were changed and no voters were taken off the rolls." FBaggins Feb 2018 #34
That doesn't say that REGISTRATIONS weren't altered. pnwmom Feb 2018 #35
It says that they werent altered in a way that kept anyone from voting FBaggins Feb 2018 #43
It says in "at least" once case, leaving the possibility open that there were other cases pnwmom Feb 2018 #47
Which still leaves your imagined scenario... entirely unsupported FBaggins Feb 2018 #86
+1, NO ONE hacks for shits and giggles !!! uponit7771 Feb 2018 #72
I believe you're correct. JohnnyRingo Feb 2018 #53
It's quite likely that Russia's long term goals are more widespread procon Feb 2018 #14
My tinfoil hat conspiracy theory: cilla4progress Feb 2018 #20
I'm wearing the same tin foil hat Clarity2 Feb 2018 #26
Youd have to wear a tin foil hat think4yourself Feb 2018 #36
Exactly! triron Feb 2018 #40
Now THERE'S a Conspiracy Theory worthy of a tinfoil hat... brooklynite Feb 2018 #57
Sorry, my point didn't come across clearly: cilla4progress Feb 2018 #103
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #75
can't disagree. politicians are "team players," if they're anything. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #100
What we have now is a "stable democracy?" What we have is rzemanfl Feb 2018 #105
ain't it great? haha. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #111
Yep cilla4progress Feb 2018 #115
absolutely librechik Feb 2018 #23
Maybe because they could fool us better by "merely" changing the registrations of some. pnwmom Feb 2018 #31
yep our system is full of holes librechik Feb 2018 #96
I completely agree. Stinky The Clown Feb 2018 #24
K&R... spanone Feb 2018 #27
Recall right after the election, Trump sent his minions to key states to thwart any effort Chakaconcarne Feb 2018 #32
"If you believe Russia hacked our voting machines but didn't change votes .... LenaBaby61 Feb 2018 #33
Who says voting machines were hacked? n/t Orsino Feb 2018 #37
I have been right where u are since just after TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #38
They didn't need to hack voting machines - just the voter databases ehrnst Feb 2018 #39
Of course they changed votes...Trump was not elected. He is illegitimate. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #42
Proof? brooklynite Feb 2018 #59
Look at the numbers out of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin...I don't know there will ever be Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #65
Right, white working class voters in the rust belt NEVER vote Republican... brooklynite Feb 2018 #79
The number were suspect...you know statistics pretty well... take a look. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #104
imo, many timid democrats in Congress saidsimplesimon Feb 2018 #46
All those places across the country where the vote did not match the exit polls is a real clue. Botany Feb 2018 #49
Tell me, why do we bother to vote? let's just go with the exit poll. brooklynite Feb 2018 #61
Whatever Botany Feb 2018 #63
hate to break it to you, but exit polls USED to be accurate; something changed in 2000. go figure. TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #101
Of COURSE that's what happened. And NOW...the fed has a list of reg. voters to give them... Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #60
There are several layers to the "voting process" which could have been hacked Lithos Feb 2018 #64
Thanks this is helpful FakeNoose Feb 2018 #69
Ever since HAVA ... Help America Vote Act* .... we have seen a red state shift in the vote even ... Botany Feb 2018 #80
2016 was the worst I believe. triron Feb 2018 #81
Yes and that tells us a lot FakeNoose Feb 2018 #83
KY's 2015 Governor's race was really egregious Botany Feb 2018 #85
Didn't the same thing happen when Mitch McConnell won in 2014? FakeNoose Feb 2018 #92
I don't know about McConnell's win but Scott Walker's "win" in the recall race smelled really bad. Botany Feb 2018 #93
I agree, it doesn't make sense Russian hackers didn't do the one most effective thing - change votes 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #76
+1, or even more effective is to purge voters like was done in Florida 2000. GOP is greasy uponit7771 Feb 2018 #88
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #77
So after all that's come out in regards to what Russia did with DNC emails and social uponit7771 Feb 2018 #89
This is why they have to fight the notion that the election was stolen...because they can't blame Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #106
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #109
I oftem wonder if they hacked MY vote! Bonx Feb 2018 #94
I don't recall any hacking of voting machines, only voter rolls (registration). AJT Feb 2018 #102
do you recall any forensic examination of machines, hard/software, or comprehensive, state-wide hand TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #113
this is what i say too! bluestarone Feb 2018 #117
Fishy stuff happened election day jimlup Feb 2018 #118
yep. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #119
I dont believe it either. Who the hell thinks Russia or trump are trustworthy. onecaliberal Feb 2018 #120
Perhaps also Arizona. triron Feb 2018 #121
Those razor thin margins are awfully convenient, aren't they? mvd Mar 2018 #123
Honestly "luck" doesn't run the table like that /nt jimlup Mar 2018 #129
I Have Started Threads Saying Exactly This SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #127
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