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In reply to the discussion: Those taking a strict "no Dem must be primaried" position may have a point... [View all]Demsrule86
(68,768 posts)(which I think is the case) then championing those issues and running left will result in a resounding defeat. And I would like to again mention the Wisconsin legislature Senate seat...been held for 17 years by Republicans. The GOP lost by 10 points...a 27% change since 16. Scott had a twitter meltdown after this unexpected loss called it a 'wake up call'.. Also, Nancy is holding the House solidly against the government shutdown bill...no DACA and no Chip ...no Democrats. The Senate is doing the same reportedly despite the risk to incumbent Senators up for reelection...some in red states. Nancy and Chuck have done a great job and I don't appreciate your criticisms of them. And here is the thing...you (and others) misread 16 and took it as some sort of movement. It wasn't a movement. It was a close election that was decided by personality,trade, racism and a divisive primary. And now we move on and recreate the big tent which must include both moderate and liberal candidates in order to win a majority. You want change, and who doesn't want fresh ideas? The best way is bottom up change...work at the grass roots...mayor races, legislative seats (where progressives can win), school boards etc. How about less talk and more hard work? You shouldn't expect to start at the top...you have to win hearts and minds first...and given the circumstances of Trump's election, the country has taken a hard right turn-it always does when you elect a Reagan or a Trump kind of candidate...we can pull it back to center left this year but anything else will take time and work...bottom up grass roots change is the answer. Go after GOP held seats and stop wasting time and money on primaries that are essentially useless this year. We need to win. And I am very optimistic after Virginia and Wisconsin that we can win decisively. So lend a hand or get out of the way because as the song says, "the time they are a-changin".