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Hekate

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61. Repeat after me: Democrats are a MINORITY party. We HAVE no "leverage." Nobody "caves"...

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:16 PM

Dec 2017

Please point out who in the Democratic Party in the House or Senate has voted for ANYthing put forward by the GOP. Which Democrats have provided a swing vote?

Thanks to the much-reviled Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, Democrats are holding the line and giving the Republicans NOTHING.

If you want the situation to change, work in your own district and state to elect Democrats to the House and Senate. That's it.

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Democrats were played on the debt ceiling [View all] pimpbot Dec 2017 OP

At times... Docreed2003 Dec 2017 #1

+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #6

How? Because we're in the minority and couldn't stop it. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #10

I didnt intend it to come across as bashing... Docreed2003 Dec 2017 #29

And why is that? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #52

Comey, Russia and voter suppression uponit7771 Dec 2017 #54

It is not "bashing." It is criticizing pangaia Dec 2017 #77

It is bashing if it's unfair or unwarranted criticism, which this is. nt SunSeeker Dec 2017 #90

They couldn't stop it because they don't have any power in any branch of Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #24

Well .... LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #2

The debt ceiling should have been barely raised. David__77 Dec 2017 #3

What are you talking about? Dems got $8 Billion in hurricane relief out of the deal. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #12

Exactly. brer cat Dec 2017 #39

The US got hurricane relief pimpbot Dec 2017 #40

Holding the the full faith and credit of the US government hostage isn't a good idea tritsofme Dec 2017 #56

I think it should have covered a shorter duration of time. David__77 Dec 2017 #41

What difference would that have made? SunSeeker Dec 2017 #67

Completely agree. They should have held the approval of funds until... kysrsoze Dec 2017 #4

What are you talking about? Dems didn't "approve funds" for the GOP tax scam bill. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #19

I suspect you know as much about the legislative process as the o.p. A handful here have finally... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #66

Interesting how the leadership spoke forcefully with such clarity and resolve on the Franken matter dalton99a Dec 2017 #5

Dem leadership was quite clear and forceful in opposing the GOP tax scam bill. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #20

Amazing how some still feel the need to blame the Democrats for GOP bills...but why? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #92

Wow. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #7

Hear, hear. We are proud Democrats and should stick together. Now, more than ever. secondwind Dec 2017 #15

It's just more divide & conquer bullshit, and yet it made to the front page with 5 recs. Go figure. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #17

How is this post even still up? "incompetent losers"? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #26

How is this hit post still up? "incompetent losers"? Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #27

I apologize pimpbot Dec 2017 #33

Translation: The Republicans suck, but I wanna blame the Democrats! FSogol Dec 2017 #36

What Democrat is working with the Republicans on this? herding cats Dec 2017 #8

repubs have the votes. dems not needed. no leverage there nt msongs Dec 2017 #9

Are you trying to blame the GOP tax scam bill on Democrats?! SunSeeker Dec 2017 #11

Thank you gabeana Dec 2017 #18

Yeah ... LOTS to pick at the dems on, but this is a fantasy Cosmocat Dec 2017 #30

Look, pimpbot... radical noodle Dec 2017 #13

I get so tired of coming here and having to read shit like this. "Incompetent losers"? Are you... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #14

I'm tired of it too, Tarheel_Dem. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #21

+1 n/t FSogol Dec 2017 #37

It gets really, really old Hekate Dec 2017 #62

Is this a hit & run? You posted 3 hours ago, and you have no further comments? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #16

Hit and run I think. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #23

I think the "bot" part in his/her screen name is probably accurate, too. GoCubsGo Dec 2017 #32

Yathink? Unless it's supposed to be all ironic and stuff. Hekate Dec 2017 #63

I went to sleep pimpbot Dec 2017 #34

Then specifically why are you doing anything but that? LanternWaste Dec 2017 #45

Why I don't know...we have so much power and all... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #22

Not trying to drive numbers down pimpbot Dec 2017 #35

Whether you intend to or not.. radical noodle Dec 2017 #43

Pure supposition about Kirsten who is not on my presidential primary list... we don't help Repugs Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #47

We're in the minority. There's only so much you can do. Tatiana Dec 2017 #25

You need power to go in for the kill. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #28

We had it and we still acquiesed to the other side. Tatiana Dec 2017 #50

When did we reach across the aisle? We got what we could and then the left left who whine even now Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #58

Democrats.aren't.killers Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #42

What you see as a killer instinct, I see as a lack of character. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #46

Sweet Georgia Brown! RandiFan1290 Dec 2017 #31

Shut It Down spanone Dec 2017 #38

Shut It Down member12 Dec 2017 #88

I think you've been played. No Democratic congressman or Senator supported the bill. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #44

Oh FFS... SidDithers Dec 2017 #48

Hi Sid! SunSeeker Dec 2017 #65

A majority of the Americans do no like this tax bill...the message has been hammered BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #49

Or allowed themselves to be played. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #51

Wrong Hekate Dec 2017 #64

Debt ceiling and the deficit ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #53

Thats Always RobinA Dec 2017 #80

Be careful. old guy Dec 2017 #55

Me Too RobinA Dec 2017 #81

Yup. old guy Dec 2017 #93

The debt ceiling should always be lifted and shouldn't be a political football. pnwmom Dec 2017 #57

We play chess, they clear the board with a hammer Generic Brad Dec 2017 #59

That, is the only thing they understand. Many democrats are too meek IMO. We now need an RKP5637 Dec 2017 #78

Nonsense. I suspect you know less about politics than you think. SharonClark Dec 2017 #60

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer pimpbot Dec 2017 #74

Repeat after me: Democrats are a MINORITY party. We HAVE no "leverage." Nobody "caves"... Hekate Dec 2017 #61

They voted to raise the debt ceiling pimpbot Dec 2017 #70

So are you pushing for a government shutdown? Really? Hekate Dec 2017 #89

The fuck, what hogwarts incantation were Democrats supposed to unleash to get "leverage"..???? JHan Dec 2017 #68

Garbage, Pimpot. Such contempt for Democrats Hortensis Dec 2017 #69

The contempt is for the spineless leadership pimpbot Dec 2017 #71

You agree with all our Republican friends. Hortensis Dec 2017 #91

We're keeping our powder dry dflprincess Dec 2017 #72

Another episode of "blaming Dems for Rs atrocities" mcar Dec 2017 #73

Agree. And, as we've seen before, sometimes these decisions backfire on us question everything Dec 2017 #75

As a minority party it does not have many arrows in the quiver it can use. LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #76

We had everything when Obama first started his first term, and then progressively lost it. I'm not RKP5637 Dec 2017 #79

We lost it, in part, because purists on the left mcar Dec 2017 #82

It's a hard lesson! I hope so too! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #83

... mcar Dec 2017 #85

I sure hope we remember that in 2018 and beyond. LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #87

We only had a short window of time to make anything happen. LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #94

Yep, it would have been far different if that window had not closed so quickly. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #95

Wow you did obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2017 #84

Screw it. Shut the government down if we have to. member12 Dec 2017 #86