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LincolnRossiter's Journal270toWin Democratic Presidential Contest Projections
https://www.270towin.com/2020-democratic-nomination/I'm not as familiar with this site, so don't take my posting this as an endorsement, but it has a lot more functionality than RCP, and 538 hasn't really kicked all of its features into gear yet.
One cool feature is that it does state-by-state delegate projections based upon current average polling. It also allows you to compare any poll to the one that immediately preceded it (by the same pollster). It's seems to have some polls that RCP doesn't and excludes some that RCP does. Not sure how the selection process works for either site. 538 has all the polls (seemingly) but doesn't do averages or delegate projections. I think they'll add those features as we get closer.
Current RCP Averages--National And Early States
National: Biden +7.3
Iowa: Warren +2.7
NH: Biden +3.0
Nevada: Biden +7.3
SC: Biden +24.6
Warren's made big moves over the summer. But the reports of Biden's demise are greatly exaggerated.
A quick thought on Justin Trudeau, Donald Trump, and our media's coverage of race and racism.
Who the hell believes that Justin Trudeau is a racist? The answer is "no one," so why the hell are our media playing up this blackface thing as though it's indicative of Trudeau's racism.
I'm sick and tired of the innuendo, nodding of heads, and tacit accusations. Trudeau should be criticized for his stupid, childish antics. But anyone who thinks he's a racist should man (or woman) up and make the call.
This is why we lose elections to actual open, practicing racists like Donald Trump, Jesse Helm, and Strom Thurmond. Liberals need to wake the fuck up or watch what happens next. They're doing the shame shit to Biden.
It's pathetic.
Interesting 538 piece on the current state of the race. Nothing definitive. Just some facts to chew
on.
Is it really a three-candidate race?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-it-really-a-three-candidate-race/?ex_cid=2020-tracker
Of course, theres no reason you should limit yourself to looking only at national polls. If you were building a predictive model at this stage, it would probably consist of some sort of amalgam of national polling adjusted for name recognition, early-state polling and endorsements, which are historically fairly predictive of nomination outcomes. In Iowa and New Hampshire, Biden looks weaker and Warren and Sanders (and to some extent Buttigieg) look a lot more viable. But endorsements are another story and those dont look especially good for Warren and Sanders. Instead, Biden and Harris are well out in front in endorsements, although many potential endorsers are sitting on the sidelines.
The prediction markets deviate a lot from the objective data in the cases of Warren and Biden. They actually had her as being more likely to win the nomination than him (as of Sunday evening), even though hes ahead in national polls and endorsements, and at worst tied with her in Iowa and New Hampshire (and way ahead in South Carolina). That isnt necessarily wrong; its an early enough stage of the primary that Id say theres some room for subjectivity. But there are also some reasons to be cautious. The conventional wisdom has repeatedly expected Biden to implode when it hasnt really happened yet. And frankly, the people trading in these markets mostly younger and well-educated arent your prototypical Biden voters.
And none of this makes it any easier to divide the candidates into tiers. For me, at least, the lines between the top several candidates are blurry. Im pretty sure that I still like Bidens chances better than Warren as I said, thats certainly where a statistical model would come out. But I wouldnt wager a huge amount of money on that proposition. I think Warren has a few things going for her that Sanders doesnt less voter concern about her age, more room to make peace with the establishment and slightly better polling. But you could argue that they should basically be treated as tied.
Im also not quite sure what to do with Harris. A Party Decides rubric that heavily emphasized endorsements and the ability to build a broad coalition would treat her as one of the favorites, while the polling wouldnt. Then again, shes had moments where she was polling better, and she could be poised to benefit if Biden falters among black voters or Warren does among college-educated ones. One reason to be pessimistic about the chances of candidates such as Cory Booker and Beto ORourke, in fact, is that if something did happen to one of the frontrunners, Harris would probably be first in line to benefit from that.
Overall, the best I can do is something like this:
Nates not-to-be-taken-too-seriously presidential tiers
For the Democratic nomination, as revised on Sept. 9, 2019
Tier
1. a. Biden
b. Warren
c. Sanders
d. Harris
2. Buttigieg
3. Yang, ORourke, Booker, Klobuchar, Castro
4. Everyone else
Note: Steve Bullock was demoted into the everyone else tier.
Even if you do have Biden, Warren and Sanders as your top three candidates (as I do), theres no particular reason to draw a firm line at three candidates as opposed to some other number. If youre just looking at national polls, then Bidens still in a tier by himself. Prediction markets basically have it as a two-horse race between Warren and Biden. You can add Sanders to make it a top three but factor in endorsements, and Harris probably also needs to join the group, which would leave us with four candidates. I dont really put a lot of emphasis on money raised, as it hasnt been a very predictive indicator historically, but if you did, you could add Buttigieg to the top tier and make it a top 5.
Perhaps this weeks debate will provide more clarity. If Warren has another strong debate and continues gaining in the polls, for instance, we might have a relatively clear two-way race between her and Biden. But the reality will probably be a lot messier.
New Harvard-Harris Poll: Biden 32%, Sanders 16%, Warren 12%
https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/HHP_August2019_Crosstabs_RegisteredVoters.pdfThe primary voter breakout is on page 151. Warren was at 24% in the IBD poll and is at 13% in this one. Seems as though she and Bernie seesaw quite a bit depending upon the poll. Bidens numbers, with few exceptions hover between about 28 and 33%. Much more consistent.
The significance of front-runner status at this point in the race
Ive posted this info in a couple of threads but thought it worth highlighting since I still see so many posts dismissing a polling lead as irrelevant at this stage of a primary. Obviously the past doesn't necessarily predict the future, but its worth considering when discussing possible outcomes.
According to Realclearpolitics, in the last five contested primaries (two in 2008, one in 2012, two in 2016), the candidate leading at the end of August in the preceding year (approx where we are now) won in 3/5 casesthe last three, in fact. Romney won in 2012, Clinton in 2016, and Trump in 2016. In 2008, Clinton and Giuliani led at this point in their respective primaries, but Obama and McCain ultimately captured the nominations of their respective parties.
In 4/5 cases (all but Giuliani, who had a bizarre strategy of not seriously contesting any primary until Florida) the late August leader went the distance and finished top 2. This includes the three aforementioned winners plus Hillary in 2008 (who actually received more raw votes than Obama in that years primary.
Again, this obviously doesnt mean that being in the pole position early on guarantees ultimate success (as highlighted by Clinton and Giuliani in 2008), but its also not meaningless. A 60% rate of success and an 80% rate of going the distance is significant.
Warren lovefest ending as 2020 competitors fear her rise
[link:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/30/elizabeth-warren-2020-competitors-1477953|
But surrogates for those top-tier candidates are starting to speak up.
The actress Susan Sarandon, while in Iowa supporting Sanders, threw shade at Warren last week. [Sanders] is not someone who used to be Republican. He is not someone who used to take money, or still takes money, from Wall Street. He is the real deal, she said.
An adviser to a competing campaign, who spoke on condition of anonymity, echoed some of that sentiment. If Warren attacks someone elses record on the debate stage, the person said, she will get it back in return.
But Rendell said Warren wont get a pass in the next presidential debate. He predicted, for one, that shell be pressed on how she would pay for Medicare for All.
Elizabeth skillfully avoided answering the question: Would your health care proposal cause taxes to rise? Rendell said. She never answered the question Shes done a great job avoiding it. She has to answer it now.
I want to clearly state that this isnt a knock against Warren, whom I feel has been an outstanding candidate whos run an excellent campaign. But this speaks to some of the challenges that come with being a frontrunner and some of the gripes we Biden supporters have that seemingly all the focus and negative scrutiny (of mainly the press, but also other candidates) seems to be directed his way. I think a little extra light being shone on other candidates will do the process some good.
With the Third Debate Set and Several Candidates Picking Up
next to go?
Qualified for Debate:
Joe Biden
Elizabeth Warren
Bernie Sanders
Kamala Harris
Andrew Yang
Cory Booker
Pete Buttigieg
Julian Castro
Amy Klobuchar
Beto O'Rourke
Did Not Qualify:
Kirsten Gillibrand
Tulsi Gabbard
John Delaney
Marianne Williamson
Wayne Messam
Tim Ryan
Michael Bennet
Steve Bullock
Bill de Blasio
Joe Sestak
Tom Steyer
Pure speculation since we don't really know what these candidates' intentions and motivations are. I'm thinking Gillibrand and at least one of the newer candidates who most voters couldn't pick in a line-up Joe Sestak or Wayne Messam. Good time for de Blasio to get out, too. Tulsi is going to hang on for a while longer. Steyer isn't going anywhere because he can buy as much organization and exposure as he wants with his own dough.
Really it's anyone's guess. Ryan, Delaney, Bullock, and Bennet have to know they're wasting time and money.
Gravis NH Poll: Sanders leads field in NH with 21% support
Biden, Warren follow with 15 and 12% respectively.
[link:http://orlando-politics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/New-Hampshire-August-8-2019-v2.pdf|
Obviously NH should be Bernie's strongest early state. Be interesting to see if he can get a head of steam by pulling it out in Iowa and then holding on to win in NH. I think if Biden wins in Iowa and keeps it close in NH, he'll be poised to head out of SC with all the momentum. And obviously Warren is going to be a major factor in both early contests as well.
Any idea why were aren't seeing more polling out of Nevada? I think Nate Silver asked a couple of days ago as well.
Edit: It is worth noting that this poll stands in contrast to other recent NH polls, which typically show Biden with small-modest leads. In this poll, Bernie also gets 2/3 of the black vote, which while probably inconsequential in a state with NH"s demographics, contravenes the conventional wisdom that nationally black folks are Biden's demo.
Starting to get excited about the horserace here.
So who's watching Succession tonight?
Succession has to be some gross amalgamation of the Trumps and the Murdochs, but the series is nauseatingly hilarious.https://activate.hbogo.com/
Best I could do for a link.
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