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February 11, 2017

Overview of the Trump/Russia collusion and timeline PLEASE READ!

I've seen so many threads here and elsewhere that relate, pertain, or detail various aspects of the treasonous coup recently perpetrated on our democracy, but have yet to see all the available information synthesized into a single, cohesive framework and timeline. Most of the articles written on this subject only cover one or two aspects of what is revealing itself to be an absolute onion of layers and players, all contributing to a still somewhat vague end. Who did/knew what, and when? What is their end game? What is it, specifically, that the players in this vast drama are seeking to achieve and sustain?

Is it to increase and cement the power and wealth of one nation, or a hoped for federation that these acts were perpetrated? Or was it in the interest of one smaller group, sect, or movement within a global power? Or is it corporate interest (in the case of Russia, one in the same) of multinational banks and oil companies? Could it be just the vision of one man pursuing global dominion and a grand place in history? Are we to lay all the blame at the feet of Trump and Putin, or are they just the current agents of a movement within the institutions they represent, and thus just the respective heads of much larger snakes? Is it a cabal?...a nest of vipers? Or are they (Trump and Putin) the only two snakes hiding in the grass; acting for their own selfish ends? Perhaps there is only one snake?.... Perhaps we are, in our ignorance and suspicion, seeing more shadows than need be? Or, perhaps the stakes are even greater than we think... Whomever all contributed to subvert the American election did so for very specific reasons, and will do very specific things with their gained result.

I will attempt herein to compile a brief overview of the evidence and information currently available to the public. I will stick only to referenced sources, and leave my extrapolations, suspicions, or conclusions to a minimum at the end in an effort to let the evidence speak for itself...which I feel it does quite convincingly and intuitively.

Despite Trump's insistence that he didn't have any dealings with Russia or Putin, there is documented evidence of Trump's (his business, and his family) connections to Russia beginning in the late 80's, and increasing steadily over time. Despite his claim to have no relationship with Putin, it is well documented in his own tweets and (often overtly fawning) public statements over the years. Donald Trump Jr, specifically, has a rich and documented history in the country promoting various Trump business interests there. The Steele dossier claims that Trump has been developed as a Russian asset for the last 4-5 years, and at minimum, the documented reality of Trump in Russia during this time can be taken as proof of the opportunity for the FSB to compile sufficient material for leverage or blackmail purposes. Here is a link to a well researched and referenced 37 page PDF file that details Trump, his children, and some of his closest associates' ties in Russia and/or with Putin over the years: http://media.wix.com/ugd/61e09d_d6d1097337e54b2cb58590b8554b7886.pdf

So we know that Trump has certainly at least had the time and opportunity to be compromised in some way by Putin. It has been noted everywhere how curious Trump's absolute refusal to speak ill of Russia or Putin is. While he will, and has been, quick to attack or malign other foreign leaders, American statesmen, judges, companies, and citizens, he remains strangely obstinate in his refusal to condemn or even perceptively slight Russia and its leader. This is an aberration in his well documented character, and as such deserves further scrutiny. But let's table that for now and allow more of the facts to speak or themselves...

To get at the heart of the Russian ability to compromise our election, we need to go all the way back to Edward Snowden. Here I will link to an exhaustively researched article by Greg Olear that covers in great detail the motivations and maneuverings that made the usurping of our election possible: http://www.theweeklings.com/golear/2017/01/24/dah-donald-russian-blood-money-and-the-fbis-case-against-trump/

The article linked above is an ABSOLUTE must read for this topic, as it details and explains the otherwise seeming contradictions in the FBI and James Comey's approach.

Also, a follow up from the same journalist here: http://www.theweeklings.com/golear/2017/02/10/moscow-on-the-potomac-february-is-going-according-to-putins-plan/

Note that both articles were published well before the developments of the last several days, in which law enforcement sources have begun to publicly validate some of the Steele dossier, lending credit to the document as a whole....

Now, is this the extent of Putin's play? Is his geopolitical aim simply more money and oil, or does he have an even grander vision?

The answer, frighteningly, is that this is just the visible tip of the iceberg.

Undermining the U.S., having the American President in his pocket, is the most valuable achievement Putin's Russia has ever attained. To truly understand what Putin's global aims are, we have to establish what sort of political theory and political science drive his policies and actions. To do this, we have to understand Alexander Dugin and Vladislav Surkov. Dugin is widely regarded as Putin's top political advisor, and Surkov is his political strategist. In other words, Surkov's methods are being used to achieve the political ambitions of Dugin and Putin.

Dugin is the original architect of 4th and 5th column political theory (For a firsthand description from Dugin, read here: http://www.4pt.su/en/content/4th-political-theory-and-post-liberalism, and additional reading here:http://crookedtimber.org/2015/03/10/who-is-aleksandr-dugin/), and his aim is to establish a new world order centered on a Eurasian culture and economy, with Moscow and Russia at its heart. This man is after nothing short of a dismantling of the entire liberal global order and capitalist marketplace.

Bannon is heavily influenced by Dugin, and it is evident in his own political theories and motivations. For those of you unfamiliar with what these are, read here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/22/steve-bannon-trump-s-top-guy-told-me-he-was-a-leninist.html

Surkov's methods of propaganda and social unrest are summed up in this article: https://thinkprogress.org/when-everything-is-a-lie-power-is-the-only-truth-1e641751d150#.kt9mbc96h

Here is an excerpt:

His aim is to undermine peoples’ perceptions of the world, so they never know what is really happening.
Surkov turned Russian politics into a bewildering, constantly changing piece of theater. He sponsored all kinds of groups, from neo-Nazi skinheads to liberal human rights groups. He even backed parties that were opposed to President Putin.
But the key thing was, that Surkov then let it be known that this was what he was doing, which meant that no one was sure what was real or fake. As one journalist put it: “It is a strategy of power that keeps any opposition constantly confused.”
A ceaseless shape-shifting that is unstoppable because it is undefinable. It is exactly what Surkov is alleged to have done in the Ukraine this year. In typical fashion, as the war began, Surkov published a short story about something he called non-linear war. A war where you never know what the enemy are really up to, or even who they are. The underlying aim, Surkov says, is not to win the war, but to use the conflict to create a constant state of destabilized perception, in order to manage and control.

Bannon and Trump deployed that strategy with aplomb throughout the primary. Because of the constant media focus on his campaign, Trump was able to bombard the airwaves with an unending stream of surreal falsehoods. At the same time, Bannon turned Breitbart News into a Trump Party organ and used it to disseminate further confusion. Independent of Trump and Bannon, a number of other fake news sites — an improbable number of which happened to be headquartered in Macedonia — inundated social media with inaccurate information. There is some evidence to suggest that Surkov’s employer contributed to the process as well, using the website Wikileaks as a conduit.

Many of the stories promulgated by Trump, Bannon, and their allies — such as Trump’s claim that Sen. Ted Cruz’s father was somehow involved in the Kennedy assassination — were obviously false and easily debunked. But the sheer volume of these stories had their intended effect. When fake news becomes omnipresent, all news becomes suspect. Everything starts to look like a lie.
The relentless downpour of inaccurate or useless information can make people lose trust in even their own minds. It happened to Washington Post reporter Ben Terris during the election.

In March, Terris reported that he had seen Corey Lewandowski, then Trump’s campaign manager, physically attack journalist Michelle Fields. The campaign lied about the incident and said nothing had happened. After days of being told his report had been wrong, Terris began to doubt what he had seen. Even when video was uncovered corroborating Terris’ report, the Trump campaign evaded the issue.
“Trump gaslighted me,” Fields later told Terris for an article about the incident. “I worry now that he’s gaslighting the country.”

In a world where nothing is true, the only real choice available to voters is between competing fictions. Trump offered a particularly compelling set of fictions, but he also found various ways to telegraph that he knew what he was doing. Through irony, evasion, self-contradiction, and obviously ridiculous claims, he let his supporters in on the joke. If everything is a lie, then the man who makes his lies obvious is practicing a peculiar form of honesty.

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Taken in sum, it is clear that we have a president beholden unto Russia, and his chief adviser/strategist who is directly influenced by Dugin's vision of a racist and nationalistic global cabal, and is employing Surkov's methods of achieving it. This is much larger than just this election, folks. We are already waist deep in WWIII. The nationalistic fascism sweeping across western democracies are the proxy-battles of this new evolution of warfare. Russia is already many years and several invasions ahead of the rest of us even realizing we are already at war. It is time to wake up! We have to throw off our oppressors here before we can hope to stem the tide of the war on the international stage. America is the linchpin to this global coup... If we fall, so will the rest of the West. However, if we can prevail against this global fascism and its domestic deplorables, then we may yet hold the light for the rest of the West and Europe to follow.

A war in the 21st century need not be fought on the battlefield, when it can be fought in the minds of the masses. The movements of armies, munitions, and media are but the weapons of perception on this new battlefield.

We are already at war, My Friends... The question is: Will we return fire before it is too late?









February 10, 2017

The Trump/Russia connection is a massive layer-cake....

Here is a link to an article explaining some of the backstory of the Russian hacking and Trump's ties:

http://www.theweeklings.com/golear/2017/01/24/dah-donald-russian-blood-money-and-the-fbis-case-against-trump/

In addition to all the financial ties and political collusion to rig the 2016 election, there is a darker and more sinister political alliance between the Trump Administration and Putin's Russia. Steve Bannon's political theories and motivations derive from the idea of 4th and 5th column geo-politics, developed by Putin's top political strategist, Alexander Dugin. For those of you unfamiliar with Dugin, you should read up on him if you really want to understand what Bannon is doing and what we're up against. Here is a thread from another post that covers the basics:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8546674

Spread the word!... Shine the light on these treasonous, fascist fuckers!!!!

February 8, 2017

No...it isn't

The very premise of social media runs against the intellectual idea of privacy. That you don't understand this only demonstrates how little you appreciate what true privacy is. You may exercise paramount discretion within your bubble of abstract digital projection, but by very definition, the existence of a social media profile of ANY type removes any reasonable expectation or experience of privacy. The very act of building your profile is a dismateling of true privacy and an embrace of community. If you were so concerned with privacy, you wouldn't even want a Facebook page.

February 8, 2017

So apparently any loss of American military life

means we have to call the mission a success...even if it was an obvious failure. This is the logic Sean Spicer just used to justify the administration insisting that the raid in Yemen was a success...because a Navy Seal died, it was a success, and any body who says otherwise is degrading his legacy and sacrifice...that it is unpatriotic to question our military exploits and adventures. We are being told that we are not allowed to question the success of the mission because it was a success and the death of the Seal is evidence to how important and successful the operation was...that only the President knows the secrets we supposedly learned in this purported victory. This is so obviously propaganda that it makes me almost physically angry and disgusted...but the true believers will wave their flags and nod in agreement.

February 8, 2017

God, I hate looking at Ted Cruz... He looks like an evil rat.

Let's hope he feels the Bern in this debate!

February 7, 2017

Jake Tapper is laying down the law with Propaganda Barbie

He is taking her to task about the Trump administration war on the media...hammering her again and again about the constant lies. She is a bit cowed in this interview. I think she felt the heat of the 2 day boycott. I can only wish they had made the ban permanent. At least he's holding her feet to the fire.

February 7, 2017

CNN is putting Propaganda Barbie back on the air

So they blackballed her for all of two days... Wow... Way to make a point, guys.

This woman needs to be permanently boycotted by the media

February 7, 2017

Increasingly short White House Press Briefings...yet another red flag

CNN's Jim Acosta just went out of his way to note how abbreviated the press briefings under Trump are compared to previous administrations....as if that surprises any of us.

February 6, 2017

The next President needs to be an atheist

Let's be honest, self-entitled and self-righteous religious conservatives are at the core of civil unrest and political dissent in this country. These Dominionist are the common thread among the throngs of racist, sexist, xenophobic, nationalistic, militant, science denying, imperialist, corporate raiders that elected Trump and have had a strangle on the GOP for several decades. The "Southern Strategy" and marriages of convenience that the Republicans have exploited to remain relevant and powerful for the last half century have finally come home to roost...They finally have all three branches of government, but they are subject to and hamstrung by an irrational, superstitious, and rabidly stubborn base that has so deeply ingrained their theology with conservative policy that the two are now virtually indistinguishable.

How many politicians, from both parties, give lip service to their "christian" faith because they fear the judgement, wrath and venom of these so called "moral" people? Every politician that knowingly plays this fiddle only continues to let these ignorant superstitions define the parameters of not just national policy, but the very discussion of our national policy. We need national and presidential candidates who are unashamed to say they don't believe, if indeed they don't. Do you really think Pete Stark is the ONLY member of congress who doesn't believe in god? I would wager well over half of them don't, but will never say so out of fear that they'll incur the wrath of the intolerant fundamentalist.

I am not advocating for the abolishing or banishing of religion (although I do feel it's time that we, as a species, move on from superstition and embrace the full applications and implications of our sciences), but rather that we as a populace need to start standing up to these people. They truly think they have the divinely sanctioned moral authority to judge and police the rest of us, and we have allowed them to do so for far too long. Until we start putting people in office and in positions of cultural authority that openly challenge their bronze age belief system and values, we will keep having this fight to finally leave the middle ages behind and embrace humanities bright future. They need to be shown that we do not take them seriously, they do not represent all of us, and we will no longer let them constrain our species with their narrow view of reality. No more lip service. Stop living in fear of admitting you don't believe in mystical sky fathers either.

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