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TeddyR

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October 5, 2015

WaPo Fact Checks President's Claim That States With Most Gun Laws Tend To Have Fewest Gun Deaths

Washington Post fact checkers give two Pinocchio's to President Obama's claim that states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths, which means the statement included "significant omissions and/or exaggerations," although the author notes he waivered between two and three Pinocchio's, with three being in the "mostly false" category. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/10/05/obamas-claim-that-states-with-the-most-gun-laws-tend-to-have-the-fewest-gun-deaths/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b

In the article the WaPo explains that when you exclude suicides, which account for 60% of gun deaths, then there is a significant change in where a state might rank in the number of gun deaths per 100,000 people.

First, the WaPo notes that the data is "mixed" on whether stricter gun laws lead to fewer suicides:

Some might argue that it is wrong to exclude suicides from the data, as less access to guns might result in fewer suicides. The data on that is mixed. Gun-related suicides might decline, but studies have shown little connection between suicides and access to guns. A 2004 report published by the National Academy of Sciences concluded that “some gun control policies may reduce the number of gun suicides, but they have not yet been shown to reduce the overall risk of suicide in any population.”

Japan, for instance, has among the world’s most-restrictive gun-control regimes — and yet also has among the world’s highest suicide rates, almost double the U.S. suicide rate.


Second, once you exclude suicides:

Alaska, ranked 50th on the National Journal list, moved up to 25th place. Utah, 31st on the list, jumped to 8th place. Hawaii remains in 1st place, but the top six now include Vermont, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Iowa and Maine. Indeed, half of the 10 states with the lowest gun-death rates turn out to be states with less-restrictive gun laws.

Meanwhile, Maryland — a more urban state — fell from 15th place to 45th, even though it has very tough gun laws. Illinois dropped from 11th place to 38th, and New York fell from 3rd to 15th.


The WaPo concluded that:

While gun suicides are certainly a serious issue — and account for more than 60 percent of gun deaths — the evidence is mixed on whether restricting gun purchases would affect the overall suicide rate. In any case, the president’s policy proposals are aimed at mass shootings, not suicides.


In short, I, along with almost all of the people on DU, support toughening our gun laws to include UBCs and additional training. But stricter gun laws isn't the panacea it is made out to be, and in some states -- notably Maryland -- such laws have had little impact on gun violence.
September 18, 2015

District of Columbia

Continues to lose in court with respect to its draconian and unconstitutional gun laws.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/us-appeals-court-strikes-down-one-gun-a-month-law-in-district/2015/09/18/137fa290-5e22-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html


In a 2-1 ruling, the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for D.C. knocked down several provisions of the District’s Firearms Amendment Act of 2012, including requirements that gun owners re-register weapons every three years, bring their firearm with them to be registered and pass a knowledge test of local laws.


Writing for the court, U.S. Circuit Judge Douglas H. Ginsburg, a Reagan appointee, said the District government’s claim that limiting residents to registering one pistol every 30 days promotes public safety by reducing the number of guns on the street, “does not justify restricting an individual’s undoubted constitutional right to keep arms (plural) in his or her home.”

He continued, “Taken to its logical conclusion, that reasoning would justify a total ban on firearms kept in the home.”
September 6, 2015

Interesting story from the WaPo

That supports the argument (even if they didn't intend to) that the problem isn't guns, the problem is felons with guns.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/how-dc-police-seized-nine-illegal-guns-on-one-of-the-citys-most-violent-nights/2015/09/05/e9078ff0-5269-11e5-8c19-0b6825aa4a3a_story.html

Of the nine guns seized, the vast majority were in the hands of convicted felons who were barred from owning a firearm. And Police Chief Lanier made the interesting comment that

There is a small number of repeat violent gun offenders who commit violent crime after violent crime after violent crime, and they are not spending any time in jail,” Lanier said.
July 20, 2015

"The Outcry Worked"

I believe someone posted the story here 6-8 weeks ago about locals protesting a proposed gun store in Arlington, VA in a strip mall in the Cherrydale neighborhood. The person who wanted to open the store is a former marine who owns NOVA Firearms in nearby McLean. Locals didn't want a gun store in the neighborhood because "guns are bad" apparently. The owner of the strip mall announced today that NOVA Firearms would not be opening a store in Cherrydale because he had canceled the lease. Details aren't clear but story implies that the owner of NOVA Firearms agreed. Funny thing is that there is a pawn shop literally three blocks away that has sold guns for 20 years, which nobody has ever protested, and if you want a broader selection you can go to the NOVA Firearms location in McLean or to Silver Eagle Group in Ashburn. I drive by the strip mall (and two minutes later the pawn shop that sells guns) on the way to work and hate that this guy wasn't able to open his store.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/the-outcry-worked-arlington-wont-be-getting-a-new-gun-shop/2015/

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