heaven05
heaven05's JournalI don't
think you will reach who you're responding to. Their agenda is set and reason, empathy, ability to see both sides is lost. You did just fine in provoking very vigorous debate with your OP. Please keep up the good work and don't let yourself be baited by some very ignorant and extremely divisive people on this site who might consider themselves progressives or liberals. You have only caused them to show their true intent and sympathies in some of their uninformed responses to your debate provoking OP. I say bravo to you!
I did
and they did. Sad at the vitriolic ignorance displayed. Yet glad to be able to understand my unease at the direction of race relations in this country. Thank you.
dangerous
ignorant man, influencing and believed by millions of other ignorant people. I'm kind of glad Obama's election happened. It forced a sizable portion of the amerikkkan populace to show their true color(s). It ain't rainbow. The whole world can see it now. Melting Pot. Hah!!!! More like bubbling cauldron.
cannot
period. Like it or not, agree or not, don't matter. Better learn about the power of systemic oppression before you spout off on what you really don't know. The ability to be racist is the power to enforce oppressive laws and systems. The oppressed cannot do that. Done with you.
I
speak from personal experience. Not judging what the mind set of the original poster was. What the original poster wrote was the truth about amerikkkan culture, historically and currently. So I agree with what he/she wrote. Like it or not there are racist 'crackers' out there and racist 'rednecks' too. The term comes from slave overseers 'crackin' the whip on some black person or to strike fear. 'Rednecks' from the color of the overseer's skin while out in the sun 'crackin' that whip. zimPIG is a modern 'cracker' 'redneck. His crack came from the sound of that weapon discharging into Trayvon's HEART! I do not broad brush the whole white or white looking racial group. I was involved in civil rights marches with a rainbow of people. I have taken heart with my discourse with you. I have learned and tried to offer learning materials. For that I'm grateful. Yet, bad form? No, I respectfully disagree. The original OP was the truth. No, ifs, ands or buts about it. The truth about this racist, culturally backward and ignorant society that we have now is disheartening. I have an Armenian friend, he has educated me on the Turkish slaughter of his people in the early 19th century. I never meant to imply that certain sub groups/cultures of the white race has not had atrocities committed against them. Yet the original OP stands on it's own merit and I will not retract any statement I made or disagree with original poster of OP. You seem like a reasonable and intelligent human being with empathy, maybe even that individual in that photo. Again, bravo. But while I don't really see many problems for whites in this society, NSA spying, notwithstanding, your rights are entrenched as far as that is possible in our current american system. Blacks just lost an important voting right. SCOTUS, your original photo of thomas, took that right with some legalese that will allow the individual states to go back to voting suppression like in the 'early' days. Bigots are gleeful over that. I've listened in public. These next two elections WILL prove my point. Yes we are all human beings that need to coexist, tell that to the one who would like to shoot a kid wearing a hoodie, carrying candy and a tea. That's only prominent because. It is open season on blacks and browns in this country. Till the racist 'redneck' and 'cracker' stops being a bigot, won't be no peaceful coexistence. Lot of UNNECESSARY work still to do for blacks to regain full voting and civil rights. Sad but nuff said. 
backatcha
of course not
stupid query. Now if that Japanese war hate toward your grandfather was continued to this very day, I hesitate to think what a person like you would be calling the Japanese. Not the same as what OP was pointing out. Please do not waste any more brain cells trying to squirm out the hole you and many others have dug yourself into concerning this OP. I'm through with you.
clueless
I'm done with you. I have not called anyone racist. For the last time, you are clueless, but slick. Doesn't work with me. I see underneath your words. It ain't pretty. You'd rather gloss over the current hate and murder with 'unfortunate'...'sad'....'outrageous' there is no addressing the problem, by you, of the ongoing problem of racism prevalent in this society. Nothing, nada short of lamenting the "opening of the wounds of the past". The wounds never healed. No one opened them again. Just more and more wounds and deaths added everyday because of skin color, sexual orientation and a host of other reason used by the racist to justify their murderous actions. Nothing addressed about that from you. At least in some of my posts I've offered up learning material to try and make sense out of this amerikkkan racial mess. What do you bring to the table?
well
I hope you get to studying. Self preferred ignorance is not pretty. DU gets one thinking and yes with the proper links, books ect can lead to learning. What this OP started has been great!!!!! I have enjoyed some of the enlightenment I've gotten because of this OP and people I've exchanged words and thought with. Some real understanding happened for me about the current state of thinking by all types of americans concerning race relations in Amerika.....because of this OP. If you can't get any more out of this OP short of your outrage at the word 'cracker', well........
The truth sometimes hurts but you'll get over it. I'm done with you
"why
can people, DUers of all people, not see something so glaringly obvious?" THEY DON'T WANT TO.
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