As another Viet Vet, I'll answer for him: NOPE and mainly because he just doesn't get it. I am ...

being treated for cancer at Temple and though I could be treated a lot closer to home, I'd rather be around men and women who've been around vets and are probably vets themselves. I also have people to talk to who understand this one aspect of who I am before we even exchange a word sitting in the waiting room.

I didn't agree with everything Sen McCain said, but I understood where it came from. When I was at fire control school at Great Lakes, we got to see the footage from the Island that showed the jet warmer backed up to the nose of a wing mounted heat seeking missile on the flight deck of the Forestal. We also saw footage of John McCain walking through fire (getting 2nd and 3rd degree burns) rescuing another flyer caught in a burning plane while ordnance is going off all around them including bombs one of which sent out a concussion wave that blew a fire control team running up to the fire (five or six swabbies) completely off the deck. One second there they are, bang, and totally gone.

Sometimes I think the reason we Democrats fail a lot of the time is because we keep looking for a doctrinaire candidate and we'll never been able to agree on the doctrine we want followed. This what I think happened to us in 2016. Republicans at least can get a candidate elected and fight about the details later. Which is what I think is happening now.

Donny gets the news from Mueller ...

Trump fires Jeff Sessions ................

Anybody else here miss Kieth Olbermann right now as much as I do?

Just asking ...

The new national motto

cheetolini May Toss "McCarthyism" Charges Around, But He Loved Roy Cohn.

‘He Brutalized For You’

How Joseph McCarthy henchman Roy Cohn became Donald Trump’s mentor.

By MICHAEL KRUSE

April 08, 2016

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-roy-cohn-mentor-joseph-mccarthy-213799

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It was the fall of 1984, Trump Tower was new, and this was unusual territory for the 38-year-old real estate developer. He was three years away from his first semi-serious dalliance with presidential politics, more than 30 years before the beginning of his current campaign—but he had gotten the idea to bring this up, he said, from his attorney, his good friend and his closest adviser, Roy Cohn.

That Roy Cohn.

Roy Cohn, the lurking legal hit man for red-baiting Sen. Joe McCarthy, whose reign of televised intimidation in the 1950s has become synonymous with demagoguery, fear-mongering and character assassination. In the formative years of Donald Trump’s career, when he went from a rich kid working for his real estate-developing father to a top-line dealmaker in his own right, Cohn was one of the most powerful influences and helpful contacts in Trump’s life.

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By the 1970s, when Trump was looking to establish his reputation in Manhattan, the elder Cohn had long before remade himself as the ultimate New York power lawyer, whose clientele included politicians, financiers and mob bosses. Cohn engineered the combative response to the Department of Justice’s suit alleging racial discrimination at the Trumps’ many rental properties in Brooklyn and Queens. He brokered the gargantuan tax abatements and the mob-tied concrete work that made the Grand Hyatt hotel and Trump Tower projects. He wrote the cold-hearted prenuptial agreement before the first of his three marriages and filed the headline-generating antitrust suit against the National Football League. To all of these deals, Cohn brought his political connections, his public posturing and a simple credo: Always attack, never apologize.

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It was a long, formidable list that included the executives of media empires, the Archbishop of New York and mafia kingpin Fat Tony Salerno, and there, too, near the top, was budding, grasping Donald John Trump.

“He considered Cohn a mentor,” Mike Gentile, the lead prosecutor who got Cohn disbarred for fraud and deceit not long before he died, said in a recent interview.


A year later, pressed by a reporter from New York magazine to justify his association with Cohn, he was characteristically blunt: “All I can tell you is he’s been vicious to others in his protection of me.”

He elaborated in an interview in 2005. “Roy was brutal, but he was a very loyal guy,” Trump told author Tim O’Brien. “He brutalized for you.”

Trump, in the end, turned some of that cold calculation on his teacher, severing his professional ties to Cohn when he learned his lawyer was dying of AIDS.

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Cohn didn’t want to hear it.

“They will say what they want,” he told the judge, and everybody else in the courtroom, “and we will say what we want.”

The government called the consent decree “one of the most far reaching ever negotiated.”

Cohn and Trump? They called it a victory.

Case 73 C 1529 was over. The relationship between Cohn and Trump had just begun.




This is a small part of a long article that is really well worth the read!

There's where you don't get it. When I was in Turkey I visited a Mosque. I asked about ...

the separation of men and women at worship. I was told that men and women were equal in Turkey and in front of Allah. I asked if that were so why was women's section behind the men in an inferior position. I was told that with Muslim worship and it bows, kneels, standing up getting back down there was too much temptation and distractions with women in front for all men to keep a clean mind and soul without temptations.

Turning this little thing into a serious affront to women - ALL women yet - trivializes the struggle women have made to still not have any sort of real equality.

Ask a single mother of three with a broken car, spotty child care, dead beat ex, crap job, customers and a boss with wandering hands at the Sports Bar how she would feel if because of religious reasons a man will absolutely not lay his hands on her or talk to her. I don't think she'll feel demeaned.

This is some trivial shit one on side of a balance with the lives of two ethical and moral people on the other. Give them their freaking citizenship for Pete's sake. Are they criminal? Do they pay taxes? Do legally care for themselves? Do they return the cart to the rack? Are they kind, do they rewind?

You'd like to start punishing these guys for crimes they have't been charged with ...

sounds awfully lynch-y to me. But I will forever appreciate the lunch mob in your title line!

If they are presumed innocent until proven guilty why can't they have a signature bond?

You do know that the dead child was an extremely ill child that was held by this sect as the Messiah, that he would be revealed as Messiah as soon as the demons that gave some extremely grave conditions were driven from him. This was not intentional though it may have been the result of religious fervor. It most certainly was not capitol murder.

There are different levels of child abuse, also. Sometimes its used just to allow the state to take control of unintentionally abused children from adults who for whatever reason haven't been giving good care to the children with no emotional abuse as an element. They love their children, they lost their way.

Please wait for all the elements to come out and the authorities to get their cases in order. Then we can have a trial and maybe come to a justice for all. Trials are not about the person, they're about trying the facts of a charge against a person. Justice is absolutely is not about any individual. Its about society.

No matter what happened to that poor child, he will never get justice in any degree whether these defendants get a medal or get hung. The question is what exactly happened to this child and who or what caused it and how society decides to react to it.

How our society reacts is to rely on due process: trial first with a presumption of innocence and then the hanging.

One thing (among others) the nation owes gatitude to FBI agent Peter Strzok for, is ...

We haven't seen hide nor hair of Trey Gowdy since Strzok sliced and diced him.

Black women become most educated group in US

Black women become most educated group in US

The percentage of black students attending college has increased over the last 30 years

Samuel Osborne
@SamuelOsborne93
Friday 3 June 2016 08:37

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/black-women-become-most-educated-group-in-us-a7063361.html

Black women are now the most educated group in US, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

Between 2009 and 2010, black women earned 68 per cent of associate's degrees, 66 per cent of bachelor's degrees, 71 per cent of master's degrees and 65 per cent of all doctorate degrees awarded to black students.

The percentage of black students attending college has increased from 10 per cent to 15 per cent from 1976 to 2012, while the percentage of white students fell from 84 to 60 per cent.

By both race and gender, a higher percentage of black women (9.7 per cent) is enrolled in college than any other group, including Asian women (8.7 per cent), white women (7.1 per cent) and white men (6.1 per cent).