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Fukushima-related radioactive materials measured across entire Northern Hemisphere
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110407121343.htm
""Since the double disaster of the 9.0 magnitude earthquake and tsunami that affected hundreds of thousands of people and seriously damaged the Fukushima Daichi power plant in Japan on 11 March 2011, minute traces of radioactive emissions from Fukushima have spread across the entire Northern Hemisphere. A monitoring network designed to detect signs of nuclear explosions picked up these traces from the stricken power plant. To date, more than 30 radionuclide stations that are part of the International Monitoring System have provided information on the spread of radioactive particles and noble gases from the Fukushima accident.""
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Point being it is adding up, this radiation
There is more and more of it in the oceans. Some previous wasting could have been because of Chernobyl and weapon testing. Pretty much anywhere in the N. Hemisphere. Those deposits could be contributors. The DoE report below details that they still find traces in the sea life from Alaska tests.
Now we have Fukushima. Not only did it make deposits via air transport, but it now has been found in the NW pacific as described in another link below.
It is adding up. Spreading. The whole N. Pacific is now contaminated. Not making this up, it is all real science as linked below in follow up replies of mine.
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In this report from the DOE, US government, it is described why they test for radioisotopes, where they test, when they test and some test findings. Note the excerpted listing for plutonium found in the mussels that were tested. This finding confirms the idea that plutonium can be passed up the food chain to the starfish.
http://www.lm.doe.gov/Amchitka/Sites.aspx
Title: Department of Energy: Biological Monitoring at Amchitka Appears to Show Impacts from Fukushima Dai-ichi Incident.
The U.S. Department of Energy Office Legacy Management (LM) has a long-term stewardship mission to protect human health and the environment from the legacy of underground nuclear testing conducted at Amchitka Island, Alaska, from 1965 to 1971. Atmospheric monitoring in the United States showed elevated cesium activities shortly after the nuclear incident. LM scientists anticipated that atmospheric transport of cesium would potentially increase the cesium activities in the 2011 biological samples collected near Amchitka. Because cesium-134 has a relatively short half-life of 2 years and indicates leakage from a nuclear reactor, it is a clear indicator of a recent nuclear accident.
Because the Amchitka 2011 sampling event occurred soon after the Fukushima nuclear accident, the biota impacted by atmospheric precipitation showed the greatest impact (e.g., species that live in freshwater or shallow ocean waters) when compared to marine biota living in deeper water. This is because ocean currents are a slower transport process than wind currents. LM scientists anticipate that the marine biota will show the impacts of Fukushima during the next sampling event, currently scheduled to occur in 2016.
(One snip from report about the amounts found pg 226)
* Plutonium-239 — 4.194 pCi/kg Horse Mussel tissue
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Starfish facts
Diet of the starfish >> source wikipedia
Most species are generalist predators, eating microalgae, sponges, bivalves, snails and other small animals. Some species are detritivores, eating decomposing organic material and faecal matter. The crown-of-thorns starfish consumes coral polyps. The processes of feeding and capture may be aided by special parts; Pisaster brevispinus, the short-spined pisaster from the West Coast of America, can use a set of specialized tube feet to dig itself deep into the soft substrate to extract prey (usually clams). Grasping the shellfish, the starfish slowly pries open the prey's shell by wearing out its abductor muscle, and then inserts its inverted stomach into the crack to digest the soft tissues. The gap between the valves need only be a fraction of a millimeter wide for the stomach to gain entry.
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Ecological impact of starfish >>>> source wikipedia
Starfish devouring mussel
Pisaster ochraceus consuming a mussel in central California
Starfish are keystone species in their respective marine communities. Their relatively large sizes, diverse diets and ability to adapt to different environments makes them ecologically important. The term "keystone species" was in fact first used by Robert Paine in 1966 to describe a starfish, Pisaster ochraceus. When studying the low intertidal coasts of Washington state, Paine found that predation by P. ochraceus was a major factor in the diversity of species. Experimental removals of this top predator from a stretch of shoreline resulted in lower species diversity and the eventual domination of Mytilus mussels, which were able to outcompete other organisms for space and resources. Similar results were found in a 1971 study of Stichaster australis on the intertidal coast of the South Island of New Zealand. S. australis was found to have removed most of a batch of transplanted mussels within two or three months of their placement, while in an area from which S. australis had been removed, the mussels increased in number dramatically, overwhelming the area and threatening biodiversity.
Survival of ocean warming and ph change for mussels
A 2009 study found that P. ochraceus is unlikely to be affected by ocean acidification as severely as other marine animals with calcareous skeletons. In other groups, structures made of calcium carbonate are vulnerable to dissolution when the pH is lowered. Researchers found that when P. ochraceus were exposed to 21 °C (70 °F) and 770 ppm carbon dioxide (beyond rises expected in the next century), they were relatively unaffected. Their survivability is likely due to the nodular nature of their skeletons, which are able to compensate for a shortage of carbonate by growing more fleshy tissue.
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Links and other sources
Lead Researcher: Fukushima pollution may be causing sea star epidemic on West Coast — Sea urchins, sea cucumbers also affected — “Something’s making them susceptible”… “It’s unlike anything we’ve seen”… “Populations go locally extinct overnight, literally”
http://enenews.com/lead-researcher-fukushima-pollution-a-cause-of-epidemic-wiping-out-starfish-along-west-coast-sea-urchins-and-sea-cucumbers-also-affected-something-is-making-them-susceptible-infection-it
Experts: Fukushima can’t be excluded as factor in sea stars turning to goo along West Coast; It hasn’t been ruled out — They’re “particularly proficient” at absorbing radioisotopes; 1,000 times more plutonium than fish
http://enenews.com/colonies-of-starfish-turning-to-mush-disintegrating-into-white-goo-experts-we-cant-exclude-fukushima-radiation-it-hasnt-been-ruled-out-starfish-particularly-proficient-at-absorbing-ra
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Newest report of Fukushima contamination in the Pacific
This report describes how radionuclides from Fukushima were found in the water offshore in the Pacific. The report is the first to detail this fact. It goes on to say that the contamination is due to reach shore this year. And that much more sampling must be done.
http://www.pices.int/publications/presentations/PICES-2013/2013-MEQ/MEQ-1700-Smith.pdf
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At this site is a request for funding for more pacific research of Fukushima contamination:
http://phys.org/news/2014-01-radioactive-ocean.html
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From a counter opinion site
At the following link from Deep Sea News, in the comments section, one commenter offered up some good suggestions to the scientists there.
http://deepseanews.com/2013/12/three-reasons-why-fukushima-radiation-has-nothing-to-do-with-starfish-wasting-syndrome/
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Epidemiologically, are not the factors you have raised direct evidence of the impact of potassium/caesium and Calcium/Strontium ionic replacement? Four points:
1. Perhaps more so than any other sea creature, K and Ca are the critical minerals for starfish. Starfish have complex K and Ca exchange, uptake and shedding mechanisms.
2. Sr and Cs are notorious Ca and K emulators respectively.
3. A single Sr90 or Cs137 atom resident in a starfish for a few days would release enough energy to create soft tissue trauma (mutative effects inclusive). Biological response? Uptake K to attempt a heal, and more K to attempt to shed the damaged arm. Effect? More potential Cs and Sr intake. What happens when the starfish gets multiplicitous shed messages from 10-20 atomic trauma centres throughout its whole body? It melts.
3. Sr and Cs are found in trace levels in every one of the places that SWS is now occuring, and have been for a number of years now. This is as a direct consequence of the US Government nuclear policies, and its shoddy and slipshod waste management practices. Sure, Fukushima is a slow moving toxic tidal wave, and you haven’t even started to see the true effects. But the killer genie was out of the bottle years ago.
4. Go and run some tests. Get relatively pure water from the deep South Pacific, and healthy starfish from the same region. Put a sick starfish in with the healthy ones. Then try adding some radioactive isotopes at trace levels. Break the story.
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The ocean ecologists are alarmed
Here is a link to a research study concerning the starfish.
http://www.eeb.ucsc.edu/pacificrockyintertidal/data-products/sea-star-wasting/
Pruneface did not employ many Vietnamese
And if they did they certainly were not part of the goons who did the dirty deeds. So, it should be obvious to even the most casual reader, that the OP had no intent to denigrate any Vietnamese people.
Back in the day we used the word 'gook' as a slang word for spies.
Radiation
Radiation is not measured in doses of particles. How many particles do you get from sunshine? How many from flying in a plane? You know how a radio works? Do particles come flying thru the air to make your radio play? No. Radioactivity is an energy wave, like waves from the sun.
What you are refusing to see. Yes, refusing, is that natural potassium particles are totally different than an artificial, man-made cesium particle.
Each particle has a different energy level radiating from it. And each particle has a different toxicity. Potassium is a particle that humans have adapted too and come to need. Not so with Cesium. Cesium has been shown to cause heart problems. Cesium actually can take the place in your body that potassium usually occupies. And kill you.
Starfish die off in the NW Pacific
We've all heard about how the starfish have been dying in the waters in the NW Pacific Ocean. Divers claim to have seen them melt away right before their eyes. Melting is what happens when a starfish dies. So what is making the starfish die? No one seems to know. So I have done a bit of research and in the following posts will share that research with you.
In summary, starfish are known to be an umbrella specie. That means that if the starfish were to go extinct, many other species that are dependent on starfish would also be in danger. Starfish are fairly unique in that they can regenerate parts of their bodies. How they do that is not exactly clear. But in that sense they are very special.
Starfish eat many things. Mostly bottom dwelling things. Like mussels. It has been discovered that if starfish are removed from some locations, mussel populations explode. In one report linked below, it has been discovered that mussels near Alaska have very high concentrations of radioisotopes. The starfish eat these mussels and the radioisotopes then are in the starfish. Known as moving up the food chain.
How do mussels get the plutonium in them? Mussels are filter feeders. Mussels feed by filtering water and taking suspended solids from that water. Plutonium, and other heavy metals drift to the bottom where the mussels are, and the mussels, in their feeding, filter out the plutonium which ends up in the mussel's meat which the starfish eat.
Conclusion: Atmospheric deposition of radioisotopes from Fukushima is established. Plutonium from Fukushima has been found in mussels in the NW Pacific. Starfish eat mussels. Starfish are dying and causing researchers great alarm. It is possible that plutonium is killing the starfish.
Polar ice and sea temps
At this link (not hot) you can see the sea temps and extrapolate sea ice content from the temperature bars displayed.
weather.gc.ca/data/analysis/351_50.gif C+P in your browser
At the top of the map and to the left is Russia. Center to top right is the N. Europe with the US in the middle bottom.
You can see that the temps near the Arctic circle off N. Europe are above freezing. Halfway to Siberia, the last time I looked - above freezing.
The vortex, I think, refers to a cyclonic circulation, meaning that the winds are blowing from the warmer N. Europe waters around to Siberia and on to Alaska, Canada and into the US.
This happens because warmer air rises, having inherent energy to do so. While cold air sinks. This rise and sink causes the winds.
The Atlantic is quite warm and holds the gulf warm stream, and is the main component of the warm air in N. Europe that sets up the vortex. Imo.
Hahaha, Skip
Speaking of lack of integrity how's your protection of that lady who thought protesters at nuke plants should be "shot and discarded"?
Skip's quote: "Sorry that your post was hidden, Hell, I'm sorry it was even alerted on."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1127&pid=61462
You thought that her saying a protestor should be 'shot and discarded' shouldn't have even garnered an alert? WTH, Skip. Do you hate protestors? Or is it just nuke protestors that you think should be shot and discarded?
This, friends, is the post that the reply which was deleted was in reply too.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1127&pid=61428
I'd have to say that anything Skip tells you.... be careful.
Eh, FB, core not hot?
Everything that gets close to the corium melts. Say FB, where is the corium? You don't know do you? If you did you'd tell us wouldn't you?
But you do say there is "There's no evidence that it's "hot". Eh? Wtf? No evidence the nuclear reactor core is hot? You did not write that!! Oh, wait, yes you did!!
Time for you to retire, Mr. "There's no evidence that it's (the melted nuclear reactor core) "hot". Good gawd almighty!! Unfucking believable the twisted phrases you write, eh?
Tepco press release: Days of steam seen
Y'know when you go outside when it's cold and you can see your breath? That is technically: water vapor. Sometimes you don't see it. Yep, sometimes there is so little water vapor in the air that your breath just gets absorbed. Poof! When the air is saturated with water vapor, your breath does not get rapidly absorbed and you can see it.
Ok, that's your water vapor lesson.
Now, Tepco has admitted to steam/water vapor rising from #3. It has been rising all along, but the atmosphere absorbed most of it before the camera could see it rising. I have seen it rising many times on the cam.
Why it is steaming so much? The melted core. It melted back in 3/11 and is still hot, still melting. When water gets close the water turns into vapor and if the air is just right it creates clouds of vapor. Usually it is very hard to see the vapor. Usually.
As to the story that "Fukushima could blow any minute!!" Well, it could. Nobody really knows what will happen. Heck, not everyone even knows what did happen. The only people coming up with what DID happen are all nuclear pros who Tepco hasn't gotten to yet.
Some might even show up and trash me for the quote above: "Fukushima could blow any minute".. Readers will note that 3 years ago those same people were pretty much the same who were saying "Nukes are totally safe. They can't blow up. Except for the dumb Russian reactors, hahaha". So, take their trash talk with a grain of salt. But not Fukushima plutonium salt, I hope. That stuff will kill you.
So..... nothing has changed much except that there are more people than ever looking at Fukushima. Just recently, Japan let the US take some kind of official role. What that role is no one is sure. But our Secretary of Energy, recently appointed by Obama, went over there and told them, and us, and everyone, in no uncertain terms: "This is an international crisis". So, finally we are in and on the case. That is one reason I think that Tepco issued their mea culpa: Steam is rising.
Tepco steam Link, in Japanese, get bing to translate:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu-news/2013/1233248_5304.html
Yes, reactor #3 has MOX fuel
There has been some talk about reactor #4 also having MOX fuel. But Tepco has not copped to that.
Not only is the plutonium more deadly than uranium, it is also more reactive, meaning it gets hotter faster. There was a report from a few years ago about an American NPP operator who tried some MOX fuel at the request of the US government. Seems a lot of plutonium from old weapons has been building up and the Department of Energy folks needed to find a way to make use of that excess plutonium.
So, they stuck it in a reactor as an experiment. The operator soon discovered that - the story goes - the MOX fuel got too hot, too fast, expanding considerably, almost making it impossible to remove or control. End of experiment, in the US. Seems Tepco gave it a go?
Given that reactor #3 blew up like it did, it could be that its MOX got too hot, too fast, and BOOM!
There are a couple of plutonium recycling reactors being built. One in Japan that I'm sure of. That Japanese plant is way past the budget and time frame and still not open for recycling. Frankly, the plutonium is very hard to handle. Our US plant, in Hanford, Washington State, is a money pit full of plutonium filled tanks that are leaking.
Each reactor using uranium produces plutonium, so every day more and more plutonium is being produced and we have yet to figure out a way to safely contain it for its thousands of years life span.
Kinda crazy, ain't it?
My gawd, where to begin?
LS writes: "There is no evidence I've seen that the Fukushima reactor vessels have been breached."
There are at least two unique signatures of core reactions in the atmosphere and the water. Iodine and cesium. Both are by law meant to be contained in the reactors, meaning the reactors are not breached. Both cesium and Iodine were found in the US by the EPA. The reactors were breached.
LS writes: "Water levels in the reactors are reported to be sufficient"
No. There is no such report. Instead they have to keep dumping water on the cores. That water has been found in the groundwater under the cores, with high levels of both cesium and strontium, those being two signatures of reactor breaching into the ground waters.
You, LS, keep saying Arnie has no credibility, and lo and behold, it is you that has none.
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