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freshwest's JournalAnd AFAIK, Ellsberg made no money off his release, neither did Manning. Nor did Ellsberg's helpers,
the NYT and Gravel, who read the text of it into the Congressional Record to protect it from Nixon.It was necessary because of Nixon's rogue actions, including subverting and firing the government's legal team to suppress it. Anyone who doesn't know the depth of that should read John Dean's books.
The release of that book spurred youth to get into the streets in hundreds of thousands across the USA and ushered in a progressive era to change things. Now, people are just looking for the next new shiny and seem to have faith like religious cultists that if they jsut say so, the seat of power will be their inheritance.
The 1% want us to believe in some kind of magic. Because they know it doesn't work. And then we have those who follow the words of the man who profited more than anyone off Manning and tells them to vote for the party that gave us the Patriot Act, Blackwater, ENRON, Halliburton and KBR.
No, they made money off Manning's hardship and these media voices are not our friends. JMHO.
I'm reccing because that article has new information. But I don't think he's a traitor or hero.
I consider him a victim of 1% media stars who didn't give a damn about the consequences to him. He was considered a lesser human being, a source for fodder or meat for the grinder like they see people like him and most of us.
This has all been a show for them to divide the 99% while the 1% fight over the loot. They are playing a game of chess, we're the pawns, but the kings remain in place, fighting for who has the most money and power.
None of these guys who used Manning's stolen data have gone through what Manning has gone through. He's a patsy.
I'm not mad at him and the term 'volunteered' in the piece doesn't mean much with a fragile young person with no help from his very much dysfunctional family, if reports are true.
He's also not mentally ill from his gender situation. He's sure of what he is and had his priorities out of order in the bad hand he got in life, no family support, and a need to find a way in life. He had military in his family so maybe he thought he would escape that way. I've known people who joined to escape their families, and you know, it's pretty fucking bad when going to a war zone is better than family. Yet is happens.
He was way off the mark with how the world works and the article points out the insanity of his concerns, deep stress and depression. He is intelligent. As the old saying goes, 'It's a fine line between genius and madness.'
I don't see the point of this article now, but glad to get more information. At the very best, he will leave prison in 8 years. He could finish college and by that time be ready to go on with his life.
I cannot say he is a hero and cannot call him a traitor, as either would require a maturity that he apparently does not have, from reports. If lives were lost, and it is said they were, I can't see any of these people as heroes. I don't believe in martyrs or sacrificial lambs. It's sick to want satisfaction against an supposed enemy when it's not you in the dock or prison or whatever.
I see Trayvon Martin's parents as heroes by being more than the people arrayed against them. Their nobility of character in the face of some really low down doings makes the haters look bad. But they and him are degraded with media satire to pump up Manning's reputation. I don't believe that they nor Manning would care for it or find it funny or enlightening. More like vampiring.
If he hears of what was done to a young man who didn't get half the chances that Manning did in life, and is dead, and then having his actions justified by some odd ball juxtaposition, he would be ashamed of the words the satirists put in his mouth. For money.
I think better of Manning than his so-called media supporters. They will use him until they can't get a headline anymore, then discard him like Assange did when they've made all the money off his life they could.
They make me sick. 
He's gonna get GOTV for the GOP? Fuck that idea. No, nope, non, nein, nyet.
Of course he grew up with universal health care and a social safety net. But us Americans don't deserve that.
Rand is working to take that away and the 4th and 14th amendment rights of women and minorities and the poor. So Julian benefited from his own country's safety net and now is willing to take up the ladder with himself so no one else can escape poverty.
He's just a 1% con man. And this reminds of the old royals in so many ways. They fired up the peasants to enlist or else drafted them to fight as pawns on a chessboard for the battles between other royals.
That is what this is, folks. And it works so well, it truly does prove that they are our superiors in the spiritual realm, even if it's fucking evil.
We fall for it every time and take the orders like flying monkeys and go after one another with full fangs bared. If some person say, hey, take a look behind the curtain, they'll go after them.
These guys are laughing all the way to the bank. You know, the ones they tell us to hate. And the folks lap it up, looking for a villain. If we keep on getting fooled, we'll deserve just what they're serving for dinner. And that is us.
Anti-gay. anti-environmental protection, mountain top removal supporter, wants a Christian nation.
Okay, are we there yet?Strategic victory for Assange: $$$. Whistleblowers, including Anonymous: ZERO. What a con job.
Anonymous “appalled” by WikiLeaks
By Natasha Lennard - Oct 12, 2012
"...We have been worried about the direction WikiLeaks is going for sometime now. In the past year the focus has moved away from actual leaks and the fight for freedom of information and concentrated more and more on Julian Assange and a rabid scrounging for money," the hackers noted.
In an accompanying (and similar) statement posted online, Anonymous added, "WikiLeaks is not – or should not be – about Julian Assange alone." The hackers explained that despite a steadfast belief that the controversial WikiLeaks founder should not be extradited to the United States, they have grown weary of the attention paid to Assange:
"The idea behind WikiLeaks was to provide the public with information that would otherwise being kept secret by industries and governments. Information we strongly believe the public has a right to know. But this has been pushed more and more into the background, instead we only hear about Julian Assange, like he had dinner last night with Lady Gaga. That’s great for him but not much of our interest. We are more interested in transparent governments and bringing out documents and information they want to hide from the public."
The hackers also expressed anger that Anonymous members have faced repression and jail time for materials they supplied to WikiLeaks, while "to this day, not ONE single WikiLeaks staff are charged or incarcerated." They noted that hacktivist Jeremy Hammond could face 20 years in prison for allegedly supplying the Stratfor files — the very documents WikiLeaks put behind a pay wall...
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/12/anonymous_appalled_by_wikileaks/
http://freeassange.org/flash-news/anonymous-legion-hackers
Another smear! I can't believe it!
He's a faithful husband and father. How dare they!
Yes, comrade, but now they have your name! You are now 'one of them'!
Who cares if you don't own a gun. Gotcha! Not you personally, but...
This is why GOA says that the NRA is a liberal plot! The implications are enormous! So is my punctuation, but it's either that or fill the message box with 
similies.
And still, not about you. Just a chance to vent my guffaws on this shocking turn of events.
Outrageous Edited Video Puts Words In Obama's Mouth!
Warning: This is a post in the BOG. If unwilling to join with the collective, er, be absorbed by the BORG, run away!
Sorry if this was posted before, but that is just terrible! How could they?
I don't have a rebuttal to this at all. Help me out here, guys.
I can't forget the sight of the gay pride people on the bus being chased after in the streets.
That's what happened the last time the public had the chance to 'vent their feelings' about gay rights. Then there were videos of beating gays or those suspected to be gay by mobs, who lived there and were unable to get whisked away.
Are they going to require police protection to and from the events?
Will they require body guards to go out in public and do things that other athletes normally will?
Are they going to be kept at the Olympic housing and treated as 'separate but equal' there?
We can't change their law but the idea of the games as a way for nations to meet in peace and with respect and for the athletes to enjoy their time there, seems to be sadly missing from this particular venue for holding the 2013 games.
Maybe Washington, D.C. would be a good venue for the 2014 games, but it may not have enough room. I loved the 1984 games in Los Angeles, which Russia boycotted. It is not new, but it just seems that nothing is boycotted anymore:
The 1984 Summer Olympics, officially known as the Games of the XXIII Olympiad, was an international multi-sport event held in Los Angeles, California, United States in 1984. When Tehran, the only other interested city on the international level, declined to bid due to the concurrent Iranian political and social changes the IOC awarded Los Angeles the Games by default. This was the second occasion Los Angeles hosted the games; it previously hosted in 1932.
In response to the American-led boycott of the 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow, 14 Eastern Bloc countries including the Soviet Union, Cuba and East Germany (but not Romania) boycotted the Games. For differing reasons, Iran and Libya also boycotted. The USSR announced its intention not to participate on May 8, 1984, citing security concerns and "chauvinistic sentiments and an anti-Soviet hysteria being whipped up in the United States."[2] Despite the boycott, the Los Angeles Olympic Games attracted a then-record 140 participating nations, and 60 more than those attending the Moscow games four years earlier, which had experienced a far wider international boycott. However, the Los Angeles boycott influenced a large number of events that were normally dominated by the absent countries. Boycotting countries organized another large event in June–September 1984, called the Friendship Games; however, not even a single competition was held between July 28 and August 12. Representatives of the organizing countries, in particular the USSR, underlined it was "not held to replace the Olympics". Elite athletes from the U.S. and USSR would only compete against each other at the 1986 Goodwill Games in Moscow, organized in response to the boycotts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_1984_Olympics
http://www.olympic.org/los-angeles-1984-summer-olympics
On of the high points was when Lionel Richie sang, All Night Long:
If we can't get a bid to hold 2014 in D.C., let's see about L.A. Our joy and inclusiveness will ring around the world. JMHO.
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