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July 22, 2015

Just the title of the article is obvious to me. Sometimes I get frustrated and say:

What? We gotta re-invent the wheel?

Anyone thinks you're being an asshole on anything can just take a dose of this:



And join the rest of the howlers on Ignore.



July 22, 2015

Unbridled capitalism” has become a “subtle dictatorship,”

This Pope and I are on the same wavelength on this. It's why I can't stand Libertarians.

The only liberty and freedom they are working on is for the rich and powerful, with the rest of being held in servitutde to market forces are rigged.

There is no such thing as a free market except in the public mind. In each nation, the starved government or the powerful determine what the market will be like. The fabled input of consumer choice to affect the market or social power has failed over and over.

People don't want to beg and be screwed over for the essentials of life while they can clearly see the wasteful way of the rich and powerful are busy destroyting the planet and the living on it. And having a great time.

They have NO real in decision making.Things that keep them sick, poor, anxious and worse.

July 20, 2015

LOL! These were good, too, I thought:

Kinda felt bad for him here:

Us white students all talked informally—in dorms, hallways, conference rooms. Trying to figure out how to feel.

But he was getting a clue here:

There are so many people on the US left who still act like race and gender are secondary to class. And those people keep getting pissier.

Yes, that one is really old!

If your plan for building a left victory in the US isn't grounded in the fight against race and gender oppression you're an idiot. Period.


That's gonna leave a mark!

Wonder when the light's gonna come on for some of the folks...



Meanwhile, they can talk to the hand, as we used to say.

July 20, 2015

Shout Out to the African American Group: Vindicated!

This is from a student who was there during and after the aftermath of the NRN and BLM collision. It is for members of the AA group who have worked so hard to inform DUers. This thread is not about a candidate. Please respect the group here.

Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


I couldn't imagine—literally couldn't imagine—the humiliation that'd go with acting like we were on the same team and being proven wrong.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


Earlier I described #NN15 as a "white space," and someone challenged me. But majority-white spaces generally operate as white spaces.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 



What those POC were saying, 26 years ago, in walking out, was that if this was going to be a white space, it would be one without them.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


They walked out and convened in the lobby. Maybe a hundred students, all the POC at the conference, sitting cross-legged on the floor.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


There was talk of pulling out of USSA, of creating a new national student organization. And Fred Azcerate, the president—and a POC—got up.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


He said that if the POC caucus voted to pull out of USSA, he'd reconvene and move to dissolve. USSA—then 42 years old—wouldn't continue.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


At that point, we all took a deep breath. And the conference just stopped. I have no idea for how long. Hours. Maybe days.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


The POC caucus met to decide what to do. I feel like it was a night and a day and another night. Probably can't have been. Feels like it.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


Us white students all talked informally—in dorms, hallways, conference rooms. Trying to figure out how to feel.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


How it ended is another long story. Anticlimactic in some ways. Good story, but not for today. (Buy me a beer and I'll tell you sometime.)


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago


But here's the takeaway: White people aren't the core of the progressive movement in the US. Maybe once, but no longer. (Men either.)


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


White people are used to being the center, and so we keep acting like the center even when we're not the center anymore.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


And sometimes we'll get reminded gently that we're not the center, and sometimes it won't be so gentle. But gentle or not, it's the truth.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


There are so many people on the US left who still act like race and gender are secondary to class. And those people keep getting pissier.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


Maybe as a matter of theory race and gender are secondary to class. (I suck at theory.) But in this movement we're building today? No.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


Right now in the US the vibrant, exciting, energized left movement is made up of people who are pissed off about race and gender oppression.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


If your plan for building a left victory in the US isn't grounded in the fight against race and gender oppression you're an idiot. Period.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


Build out from that? Sure. Expand on it, sure. But us white guys aren't where the action is in the US left today, and we won't be tomorrow.


Angus Johnston ?@studentactivism 21h21 hours ago 


The Confederate flag is just a symbol? Sure. But taking it down is a win. And winning, like Nuke LaLoosh said, is better than losing.




https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/622559033413795840


Hope this post makes AA's feel vindicated for your work here, because you've telling DU for a long time what the problem is. And been fought, insulted and dismissed doing so. It's time for some people to evolve, if they can. Or be left behind.

July 19, 2015

Another important paraggraph from Petty, who I think is a good guy:

He goes from some lovely clarity about the flag issue to some thoughts going "beyond the flag issue" which are so good, I think we need to yank the last paragraph out in toto:

Beyond the flag issue, we're living in a time that I never thought we'd see. The way we're losing black men and citizens in general is horrific. What's going on in society is unforgivable. As a country, we should be more concerned with why the police are getting away with targeting black men and killing them for no reason. That's a bigger issue than the flag. Years from now, people will look back on today and say, "You mean we privatized the prisons so there's no profit unless the prison is full?" You'd think someone in kindergarten could figure out how stupid that is. We're creating so many of our own problems.

July 19, 2015

+a million. And when 'progressive' Dems stop listening to their most loyal base, they lose.

Besides, it's just plain wrong. Their lives are more important than any candidate,

July 19, 2015

I went to the link and have all the tweets. Nothing abour bragging or a set up:

Elon James White
@elonjames
CEO, @TWIBNation. Publisher, http://www.ThisWeekInBlackness.com , Media Dir. @netroots_nation. Writer. Professionally funny. Habitual creator. -- #TWIBnation
#TWIBnation
elonjameswhite.com
Joined March 2007


1. Pinned Tweet 

 Elon James White ?@elonjames Mar 13 
Why "Black on Black" crime is nonsense and you should never use it to argue about police brutality.
?t=4m56s … #TWIBnation





11:14 AM - 13 Mar 2015 · Details 

 Elon James White ?@elonjames now19 seconds ago 
Elon James White retweeted Cultured State
Your facts are inconvenient. https://twitter.com/culturedstate/status/622651276699025408 …
Elon James White added,
Cultured State @culturedstate @elonjames But what if he's not elected? Then what do we wait for? That's why that fails.
 Elon James White ?@elonjames now51 seconds ago 
Elon James White retweeted beth hurley
Well @BernieSanders asked to meet with me today. And then didn't show up. So there's that. https://twitter.com/sdbeth/status/622651204359712768 …
Elon James White added,
beth hurley @sdbeth @elonjames he seems to need some advisors on this issue. I wonder if he'd meet with you?
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 2m2 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Chance
I like that it's Black folks fault if a Republican wins, and not the democrats for failing to win our vote. https://twitter.com/chanceencounter/status/622651105827291137 …
Elon James White added,
Chance @ChanceEncounter @elonjames Well have fun with that attitude when yet another Bush is sitting in the White House. Black lives mean less than nothing to him.
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 5m5 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Cole2028
Then maybe democratic candidates should, I dunno, #EarnThisDamnVoteOrLose. https://twitter.com/oldcaesarcole/status/622650919436455937 …
Elon James White added,
Cole2028 @OldCaesarCole @elonjames dividing on things like this will lead to a nut job like Trump in office.
 1. Elon James White ?@elonjames 19m19 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Kimberly Skipper
Yeah. It's Black folks fault that Sanders is handling this baldy and that his supporters are being dicks. https://twitter.com/kdskipper/status/622649016925290496 …
Elon James White added,
Kimberly Skipper @kdskipper @elonjames Our people are very passionate which can be good. But sometimes it impedes progress. Sanders could be a future ally if allowed in
 3. Elon James White retweeted 

 Weeping Angel ?@redforkhippie 12m12 minutes ago 
@elonjames "Future ally" -- is that one of those things people say when they're too polite to use the phrase "useless as tits on a boar"?
11:14 PM - 18 Jul 2015 · Details 
 6. Txnewsprincess ?@txnewsprincess 7m7 minutes ago 
@redforkhippie @elonjames present ally = candidate willing to stand up now. Future ally = a little cowardly
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 6m6 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Alameda Mark
Be open to the fact that he needs to address what's being asked about. #EarnThisDamnVoteOrLose https://twitter.com/alamedamark/status/622650617060659200 …
Elon James White added,
Alameda Mark @alamedamark @elonjames Be open to his ideas, his policies will help people of color tremendously, he's looking to disrupt the system that's biased.
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 8m8 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Kimberly Skipper
Keep making excuses. https://twitter.com/kdskipper/status/622650442221105152 …
Elon James White added,
Kimberly Skipper @kdskipper @elonjames No. Just saying he prob is the only candidate right now that could be a real ally in office. We have to see long term picture.
 11. Elon James White retweeted 

 MB ?@SugarcubeDog 14m14 minutes ago 
@elonjames I don't get these people! Wait until he's elected? Um, no. That protest was great.
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 12m12 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Cole2028
Yes it does. https://twitter.com/oldcaesarcole/status/622650127728033792 …
Elon James White added,
Cole2028 @OldCaesarCole @elonjames yes, black rights are important and need addressed, but a "weak" stance on that doesn't negate his boisterous one on many others
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 13m13 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Cole2028
#EarnThisDamnVoteOrLose #NN15 https://twitter.com/oldcaesarcole/status/622649790308810753 …
Elon James White added,
Cole2028 @OldCaesarCole @elonjames Bernie is easily the best candidate in 2016. Opposing his candidacy for not being vocal enough on one issue?
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 13m13 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Kimberly Skipper
How about "No." https://twitter.com/kdskipper/status/622649708045996036 …
Elon James White added,
Kimberly Skipper @kdskipper @elonjames But he can't help BLM agendas much if he's not elected. It took PBO late into 2nd term to address BLM issues. Ease up #NN15
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 14m14 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Drew Emmick
#TWIBnation https://twitter.com/drewmellow/status/622649473613692928 …
Elon James White added,
Drew Emmick @drewmellow @elonjames your segment on #twib discussing sanders prepared me for today. thank you for always keeping me informed and my eyes open.
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 14m14 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Cyril Black
I'm currently at the Downtown Sheraton Lounge. I will accept all donations. #NN15 https://twitter.com/sportssexsneaks/status/622649451782475776 …
Elon James White added,
Cyril Black @SportsSexSneaks Has anyone given @elonjames Scotch? Go get the man some damn scotch then! Lol
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 17m17 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted Kimberly Skipper
Yeah. It's Black folks fault that Sanders is handling this baldy and that his supporters are being dicks. https://twitter.com/kdskipper/status/622649016925290496 …
Elon James White added,
Kimberly Skipper @kdskipper @elonjames Our people are very passionate which can be good. But sometimes it impedes progress. Sanders could be a future ally if allowed in
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 18m18 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted CynnyB 
#EarnThisDamnVoteOrLose #NN15 https://twitter.com/cynnyb/status/622648784074334208 …
Elon James White added,
CynnyB @CynnyB @elonjames Bernie Sanders doesn't want to lose any support from white folks but doesn't realize he can't win without black folks vote
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 21m21 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted JonathanDanielBrown
No really. You're a fucking idiot. https://twitter.com/jonathandbrown/status/622647745359187970 …
Elon James White added,
JonathanDanielBrown @JonathanDBrown @elonjames And you don't like Jews. It's okay. Just be honest about it.
 29. Elon James White retweeted 

 stand4racialjustice ?@ssartmom 24m24 minutes ago 
stand4racialjustice retweeted Elon James White
#BlackLivesMatter a gazillion more times than fragile white feelings. https://twitter.com/elonjames/status/622594962647990272 …
stand4racialjustice added,
Elon James White @elonjames If calling out bullshit makes White Progressives Republicans, then how progressive were there really? https://twitter.com/wallachang/status/622533962049683458 …
 31. Elon James White retweeted 

 Stronger Math ?@Sneffleupagus 25m25 minutes ago 
@Marmel @elonjames NyTimes too, but the characterization of "hecklers" though... I can't with these people.
 33. Elon James White retweeted 

 Empress Sudol ?@EmpressSudol 25m25 minutes ago 
@elonjames Uuuuuugh!!! I'm the grandchild of a holocaust survivor and child of an immigrant too! And guess what? I DON'T USE THEM AS EXCUSES
 Elon James White ?@elonjames 24m24 minutes ago 
Elon James White retweeted 360 Richardson
But we sleep doe... #NN15 https://twitter.com/sankaraguitara/status/622647481998807045 …
Elon James White added,
360 Richardson @SankaraGuitara #ironyalert "he marched with MLK & ...activists" but he walked away from the #BlackLivesMatter activists. OK.

https://twitter.com/elonjames/status/622645244186656768 …

https://twitter.com/elonjames

Sorry about no paragraphing to separate each tweet. I cut all of the 'block' messages and other such stuff that a copy and paste brings into documents on my old model desktop.

The numbers set by twitter's text program are what I cut out, but not any of the tweets. The closest thing to anything suggesting planning was one that said they were inspired by him. Not instructed, not told to make a disruption, or anything like that.

There are some uncalled slurs made to him, such as he hates Jews, wants a GOP POTUS, is dividing us, etc.

He's not doing anything IMO to protest at NN, and was not the instigator, and I don't think it was any harm for BLM to interrupt. It's time to end business as usual with POC.

The feed and the description of being ignored reminds me of the Ferguson city council meet up with the people from the community who didn't listen even when they'd waited in line patiently to speak. Some of the council was reading text messages, etc. as if there was no one there talking.

Other than Elon has a twitter account and people have read his tweets and responding, I find the charge it was a set up unlikely. Just being a member or a fan of BLM or discussing it on a twitter feed does not prove he is a disruptor. And as I said above, the 'business as usual' and 'wait your turn isn't working for POC. Their lives matter more than RROO, and they are sick of being shut out of the democratic process of this country, and only being allowed to yell since no one is listening. And told to shut up.

Now that is by 'progressives' who aren't doing what I believe a progressive or liberal does, listen to all sides with respect. If one believes that all people are created equal, one doesn't do that. Information and facts are supposed to be our strength.

But some 'progressives' are well off and don't have the difficulty getting heard POC do, so they can sit back and during this horror story that is black lives being taken, that has gone on in this country for century. It's time to make a proper forum for them to get their words out.

July 19, 2015

Not for the first time, either:



Barack Obama Physically Attacks Vladimir Putin!



"Barack?

You are hurting my hand.

Very much."


(Putin 'welcomes' President Obama to the G20 Summit)

https://twitter.com/TheObamaDiary/status/375614448800497665/photo/1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110215196

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