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That'd be a “shifty, scheming person that will do whatever they need to to escape whatever."



He's a dishonest, bigoted weasel of a man. Apologies to all real weasels.



They're okay. Libertarians, not so much.


The urban dictionary defines a weasel as a “shifty, scheming person that will do whatever they need to to escape whatever they fear in the moment”.

That is Rand Paul in a nutshell.

11th rec! And our march to Marxism proceeds!



Rated as MIXTURE From Snopes:

Claim: List reproduces various "Marxist" statements made by Hillary Clinton.

Example: (Collected via e-mail, August 2007)

A little history lesson: If you don't know the answer make your best guess. Answer all the questions before looking at the answers. Who said it?


1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) "We) ... can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Josef Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground."


A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."


A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above

Answers:

(1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004

(2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007

(3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid and vote! Anybody (woman) that would vote for her just because they think it's time for a female president has got to be out of their lunatic mind!

All the explanations in context are at Snopes, but essentially, they are what Hillary Clinton actually said. There's a lot more at the link:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp

Glenn Beck said that in 2012. Better dead than red, ya know! n/t



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And the CTers said it was really about the Sun-God Ra! Obama is Ra! He's gonna take over the planet!

They really, really hated that logo.

Of course, they've been hating Hillary for so much longer, since she tried to get UHC in 1993. Rush put forth the Death Panels would ensue from universal health care, with comparisons to Nazis instead of the Scandinavian health care system that she wanted to replace the existing health care system with.

Rush grabbed on to that meme to get the Newt Gingrich majority, and it worked, and was also used against Obamacare. Some still believe it's all about killing them in exotic fashions, when the for-profit system is social darwinism at its most cruel and is divisive to society.

Many HRC fans were vehemently against Obama on this issue, but I know that the provision is in the law, if states want to set it up. Those who faulted Obama didn't read the provisions, many of which were designed to eventually end for profit health care. If they wanted it, they needed to take over their state capitols by voting. They didn't.

The steady obstruction and picking apart of the ACA was begun as it was being enacted, and with the lack of interest in voting, the Tea Party took over in 2010, after it became law. The GOP has fought it from state capitols to the nation's capitol.

Over a generation of hate inspired by that, along with fear from her book, It Takes A Village, which was fodder to the memes against her. And this is a gentle disagreement here, but has all the dogwhistles:

I would like to begin by focusing on the title of the book, It Takes a Village. The title comes from an African proverb which states that "It takes a village to raise a child." This oft- repeated African proverb has become the mantra of recent international women's conferences (Cairo, Beijing). I believe it represents the new paradigm of feminist and socialist thinking...

Unfortunately, the rest of the book contradicts that early statement. The First Lady essentially extends her notion of the village far beyond the family to include various organizations, especially the federal government. By the end of the book, it appears that Mrs. Clinton has never met a government program she didn't like.

She says that those who hold to an anti-government position are the "noisiest" position and getting all the attention from the media. But she goes on to say that "despite the resurgence of anti- government extremism, it is becoming clear that most Americans do not favor a radical dismantling of government. Instead of rollback, they want real reform. And when a strong case can be made, they still favor government action, as they have demonstrated recently in their support for measures like the Family and Medical Leave Act, the Brady Bill, and the new Direct Student Loan program."

By the end of the book Mrs. Clinton has endorsed nearly every government program of the last thirty years including those mentioned above and others like Goals 2000, Parents as Teachers, and AmeriCorps. The village, in Mrs. Clinton's book, is much more than the communities in which we live--it is a metaphor for the continued expansion of government into every aspect of our lives.


http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/village.html

Which is definitely New Deal-ish, but some will say the Democratic Party does not respresent that anymore. To that, with all due respect for such ignorance, I say balderdash. And I'm not ranting at you, just taking the opportunity to vent against ignorance.

And the family values crowd was onto the meme for years. Yes, a roll call full. World Net Daily which now employs Rick Sanctorum, no less, wrote a book in response:

http://genius.com/2371166/Worst-neighbors-in-the-world-halloween-letters/It-takes-a-village-to-raise-a-child

Not to mention her hard stance on women's reproductive rights which galls the right, but seemingly does not generate a lot of support from those who can't take Hillary Clinton:

In this video, Clinton states boldy, 'I consider... Any governmental imposition that imposes government policy on women to be absolutely unacceptable.'



See you later!

Some don't get the true meaning of the RED. It's been apparent for so long:



The real meaning there, with the two 'C's is that there are other 'C's being hidden from the public, such as Comrade, Communist, Collectivist. the ultimate insult is the Castro name. These have all been applied to HRC in the past by the RIGHT wing media, and will only intensify.



Rated as MIXTURE From Snopes:

Claim: List reproduces various "Marxist" statements made by Hillary Clinton.

Example: (Collected via e-mail, August 2007)

A little history lesson: If you don't know the answer make your best guess. Answer all the questions before looking at the answers. Who said it?


1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) "We) ... can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Josef Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground."


A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."


A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above

Answers:

(1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004

(2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007

(3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid and vote! Anybody (woman) that would vote for her just because they think it's time for a female president has got to be out of their lunatic mind!

All the explanations in context are at Snopes, but essentially, they are what Hillary Clinton actually said:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp

The RIGHT wing and RW media has not forgotten, as their website states:

StopHillaryPAC

Make sure Hillary Clinton never becomes president! America can't survive another term of Obama-era radical liberalist policies implemented by a Bill and Hillary Clinton team back in the White House. In 2016, it will be too late to stop Hillary. We've got to hold her accountable right now. Stop Hillary PAC was created for one reason only -- to save America from the destructive far-left, liberal cancer created by Bill and Hillary Clinton that's trying to corrupt America. Stand with Stop Hillary PAC today to take a stand for America's future and STOP Hillary dead in her tracks.

HELP STOP HER NOW.


http://www.stophillarypac.org/

And the website,e after that statement, has added plenty of Rovian research for media swayed lefties and to rile up righties. Look to see them play out in following months. You saw them here first and will know the source.

Of course there will be plenty of examples of Segretti's technique. Working like a charm to depress the Democratic vote since 1972, every day of the year, and not just in election seasons. The GOP has been in permanent campaign mode since Nixon. I'm not giving Tricky Dick's acolytes any leeway. When you give ground to a Libertarian, or refuse to vote Democratic, these guys cheer:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110215862

BTW, and on the 'C.' Exactly what do these images say to you, Bain?





And this is Rush's worst nightmare, come back to haunt him. Muahahaha!

Another honest man who will be retiring soon. Love you, SoS Kerry for the truth telling. n/t

From the link:

If this insurrection is driven by something other than a blend of ideological extremism and personal animosity, it is not clear what that might be. But it is ugly, it deepens mistrust of government and it harms the office of the president, not just Mr. Obama

Because they intended Mitt to be the last president. All they wanted as one of their leaders said, is a president with enough working digits to sign the legislation that has already been written. A national ALEX agenda.

The Koch Libertarian GOP Party want the country to devolve into states an sell every inch off to their cronies, and the people within the confines of those states will have no recourse.

That' why they attack every thing the President of the UNITED States does. Neo-Confederates don't want any of the US Constituion to exist except for perhaps, the first ten amendments. Which defunds the government, leaves out protection for the majority, and gives them what they want.

Not a small government, but an inclusive one, that will carry out the agenda of the global oligarchs in a way that the current starved federal government is finding harder to resist all the time. They see the government as a money making enterprise for themselves alone. Not a new process:



Where social mobility is a pipe dream, slavery is what some people are born to be in and they deserve it. Historically all caused by reducing government until it is so weak it cannot enforce laws as it was the only force keeping feudalism at bay.

Yes, Grover knew that cutting off funds and denying government taxes was the way and enforced the allegiance of the GOP, as the Koch brothers do now.

Thom Hartmann did a great analysis in this clip, referring to an author who states the case plainly:



Yeah, I was hoping for that or Borowitz. But with Bibi, anything is possible:

It's Armageddon's Wet Dream!

By Pablo - March 6, 2012

Unleash Hell?

“This is not a game,” Mr. Obama said during a news conference at the White House timed to coincide with Super Tuesday voting in the Republican primaries in a number of crucial states.

Mr. Obama gave a staunch defense of his administration's actions to rein in Iran's nuclear ambitions and said tough sanctions put in place by the United States and Europe were starting to work and were part of the reason Iran had returned to the negotiation table.

“The one thing we have not done is we have not launched a war,” Mr. Obama said. “If some of these folks think we should launch a war, let them say so, and explain to the American people.”


http://pavlovianobeisance.com/

Republicans got some 'splainin' to do. Bibi will be going through a learning curve, too.

This isn't over, McCain is still a tool who follows Obama around drooling. This should be on the screen whenever he says a word about PBO:



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