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March 26, 2014

And I think if they let 'one innocent man' as they suspected go free, to not discriminate based on a

biased report from a situation on the other side of the world that was widely condemned, is that negligence?

Do we want to create a world fitting the Alex Jones' view:

“...And now they’re mounting them with ground-penetrating radar that looks right through your wall, while you’re on the toilet, having sex with your wife.”


Kinda kinky there, huh? But I listened to the show when a frantic caller asked if the motion detection devices that flush the toilet when users are too lazy to do, meant she was being watched ?!!

Alex assured her the police were indeed watching her in the toilet. And at that point, I was ROFLMAO at the cupidity of the anti-science beliefs of the cult members.

Yes, they are watching you go potty! They can't see your face, but will recognize your ass the next time you moon a cop! The Police State measures all your farts!

Alex Jones

Ideology: Patriot Movement

Alex Jones knows how deep the rabbit hole goes.


Every week from his studio in Austin, Texas, he dives into red-faced tirades exposing the forces that threaten to enslave all human life on the planet. The conspiracy always boils down to about the same thing: eugenics operations, the militarization of the police, a cabal of wealthy corporations and the United Nations involved in a fiendish plot to control the world.

Five days a week, online and on more than 60 radio stations nationwide, “The Alex Jones Show,” along with a pair of websites he runs (Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com), serves as the tumultuous showcase for his overactive imagination — a worldview governed by logic-leaping deductions and heedless pronouncements. His website is chock full of apocalyptic headlines and ads for products like “recession-proof coins” and manuals on How to Survive Martial Law in America. On the air, he’s given to stream-of-consciousness rants.

Influenced heavily by the conspiracy-minded John Birch Society, Jones ran unsuccessfully for a Texas House seat in 2000 as a Republican but said he doesn’t follow the platform of either of the two major parties. He has described his own politics as libertarian.

Jones has accused the federal government of involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing and the 9/11 attacks, said that the Branch Davidian cultists in Texas were purposely murdered by authorities, claimed that FEMA is secretly building concentration camps for liberty-loving citizens, and issued a series of videos with hair-raising, B horror-film titles. A sampling: “911: The Road to Tyranny,” “Police State 3: Total Enslavement,” “The Masters of Terror: Exposed,” “New World Order: Blueprint of Madmen” and “The Obama Deception: The Mask Comes Off.”

Although it hardly seems possible, Jones’ fecund imagination now seems to be sprouting even more conspiracy theories than before.

Last year, for example, after Jared Lee Loughner went on his January 2011 rampage in Tucson, Ariz., killing six and wounding U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Jones told Rolling Stone: “This whole thing stinks to high heaven… My gut tells me this was a staged mind-control operation. The government employs geometric psychological-warfare experts that know exactly how to indirectly manipulate unstable people through the media.”

It’s simply a matter of finding the truth, Jones says. Or something like that.

In August 2011, he featured on Infowars an article that called the Department of Homeland Security’s year-old “If you see something, say something” terrorism-awareness campaign a racist conspiracy to “characterize predominantly white, middle class, politically engaged Americans as domestic extremists.”

The program, which actually encourages people to consider “behavior, rather than appearance” when considering whether to report suspicious activity, entails a series of public service announcements designed to drive home that point. What piqued Jones was a 10-minute PSA in which most of the “terrorists” are white, while the citizens who report their suspicious activities are all minorities. He milked the issue for at least a month. “What do you think of [DHS’] rebranding that the terrorists aren’t Al Qaeda anymore?” he said on his Aug. 18 radio show. “It’s that veteran, it’s that gun owner, it’s that farmer… it’s that white person. Whites are the new Al Qaeda.”

Besides exploiting racial animosities, Jones’s conspiracy theories often appeal to the fears of the antigovernment “Patriot” movement.

At the movement’s previous peak in the 1990s, the “black helicopter” was a symbol of its cartoonish insistence that the government would soon be coming after freedom-loving dissidents who knew the truth about the New World Order. Jones gave these fears a 21st century update in an October 2011 online broadcast. He obsessed over news that the sheriff of Montgomery County, Texas, had used a federal grant to buy an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (also known as a drone) called the ShadowHawk. The laptop-controlled, miniature helicopter comes equipped with a powerful zoom camera, infrared heat-seeking optics and crowd-stopping cartridges.

To Jones, this was not simply a police department taking advantage of the latest law enforcement technologies but a glimpse at the insidious machinery agents of the New World Order are deploying in the night skies in advance of martial law. “They’ve got large unmanned drones,” Jones warned. “They’ve got small drones... And they’ve got million-dollar systems up there flying around with cops in control of them, surveilling you. And now they’re mounting them with ground-penetrating radar that looks right through your wall, while you’re on the toilet, having sex with your wife.”

Jones promotes false flag dreckt about Newtown, Aurora, the Sikh temple and Boston. And regarding his homophobia:



This is the newest SPLC link of his page there, not as funny as the former page. But if one hasn't listened to the show and I did for a long time trying to figure it out, you find he's ust a Bircher in the hip new style CT clothing although they're some of the original CT. He's going much more to the far right religious side now and last listen I had, he is straight hell fire and brimstone preaching.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/alex-jones

But I printed the old page, no longer linked, just for shits and giggles! I can see it now, a cop watching my sorry ass in the toilet, going blind...

And as you say, it's not just the CTers believing this stuff. The cops have dealt with Sovereign Citizens who gun them down and others who blow things up, yes, for reals, like the place in San Francisco where the guy was listening to Beck.

It didn't help that real people believe that the ACA requires you to take the 'mark of the beast' and all that, and have threatened real people who dared to vote for it in 2010, so yes, it escalates.

It's part of the furor of the Teas. I don't want that, but I think there are forces in America who really love the idea of blood flowing down the street.

Thanks for the comment, hope you enjoyed this one...

March 26, 2014

About Kagan and administration, please consider my info.

When you say:

58. That's what just burns me up. WHO is taking the government's case here?

I remember when President Obama picked Elena Kagan as a Supreme Court justice. One of his reasons - as Solicitor General, it had been her job to argue on the White House's behalf before the Supreme Court. He said she was a terrific consensus-builder. Well, I'm wondering what he was smoking that day. Kagan represented the government in the Citizens United case. What kind of consensus did she build in that one? Evidently NOT so terrific. She lost the freakin' case! I haven't been an Elena Kagan fan ever since.


There are nine justices on the SCOTUS, Kagan is only one. She did not lose the Citizens United case as she is not even listed, despite her confirmation date, as part of the court when it was argued. I contend, this cannot be her failure:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission

She was appointed to take the place of Justice Stevens, who is on the list who decided CU:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Kagan

If you have proof to dispute what I have found, please let me know and I will edit.

On DU today I found these OPs that show her work for women in the Hobby Lobby case, and I think you will enjoy these if you read them:

Kagan Throws Scalia's Own Religious Liberty Arguments Back In His Face - TPMDC

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024724945

Women Justices Rock the Hobby Lobby Argument


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024726315

Re: the Obama administraion's defense of the ACA on this issue, and this is not from a purely liberal source, but you can see the Hobby position, which is dishonest, and our defense against their lawsuit:

Analysis: Hobby Lobby case -- Matters of principle or “alleged religious beliefs”?

Ryan Kiesel of the American Civil Liberties Union, Oklahoma chapter, told CapitolBeatOK the U.S. government will succeed in its defense of the ACA provisions, including the “HHS” (Health and Human Services) mandate requiring the coverage.

He said, “For decades courts have held that religious liberty does not grant secular employers a license to discriminate against their employees or customers. Whether that discrimination is based on race or gender, courts have routinely held that claims of religious liberty by the owners or managers of a company are no justification.”

In mandating coverage of “preventative medicine with no co-pay,” Kiesel believes, Congress was “taking steps to address the inequity felt by women in the workplace. If Hobby Lobby were a church, this would be a different story altogether. However, as a private, for-profit company they do not have the right to impose their beliefs upon their employees...”

The Justice Department brief, authorized by Attorney General Eric Holder, emphasizes that the company formerly allowed “preventive services” within employee health insurance plans, dismissing the “alleged religious beliefs” of the company’s owners...


http://capitolbeatok.com/reports/analysis-hobby-lobby-case-matters-of-principle-or-alleged-religious-beliefs

Please note, that the parts I have emboldened in the article are of importance to me when scanning my Journal, for my own vision problems, and not the equivalent of yelling at anyone like putting things all capital letters.

TIA if you have a comment, must especially anything to show I am in error and that Obama, Holder or Kagan have been remiss in this effort to protect the rights of women.

March 26, 2014

Well, the last time I heard such media 'outrage' over the FBI was during these days:



Of course they want the FBI, EPA, DOE, OSHA, CIA, NSA, DOD, SSA, NLRB, IRS and all the rest of the alphabets defunded and they've done all they can to MAKE IT SO since 2010.

Then they all screamed BENGHAZI!!! like a Greek chorus after they refused to pay for embassy security.

See how that works?

Make sure they don't have operating funds, then whip them for not getting the job done. I'm sure we can get all the work done during a government shut down, stuff like that. Why weren't the national monuments open when Palin and the crew appeared?

What massive incompetence, the howls of outrage and the flying of the Confederate flag in front of the White House gates, were entirely justified!!!

Now, wash, rinse, repeat.



I find DU criticism of the FBI on this matter to be a bit suspect since the experts at Infowars and Glennbeckistan promised us Obama did the whole thing, directly, as a false flag.

TO TAKE OUR GUNS!!!

So of course, in this version, Obama defunded the FBI years before, to make sure it would happen or he just didn't have the sense to listen to Russia. They know so much better than we do who his lurking around in the USA.

KGB, anyone?

Despite his terrible spendthrift ways, he withheld all that money to fund the FBI!! See, LIHOP! He was responsible for 9/11, did you know that?

Bad, bad Obama!!!

Apply icon ALL OVER THIS liberally as needed.

March 26, 2014

I grew up on this stuff. Every morning with a poached egg, marmalade, english muffins, etc:



Constant Comment Tea


R.C. Bigelow, Inc, better known as the Bigelow Tea Company, is an American tea company based in Fairfield, Connecticut. The company was founded by Ruth C. Bigelow in the late 1940s, based on a recipe she marketed as "Constant Comment" tea. Bigelow is still a 100% family-owned business[1] that markets over 50 varieties of tea, including black and green, as well as herbal teas, all of which are still blended in Fairfield. They also own America's only tea plantation, in Charleston, South Carolina. Although still a privately held company, in 2009 their annual sales were reported to be about $90 million and they have 350 employees.

Leonard Cohen refers to Constant Comment tea in his 1966 song "Suzanne" in the line, "And she feeds you tea and oranges/That come all the way from China." The song began as a poem in 1966, was recorded as a song in 1966 by Judy Collins, and in 1967 by Cohen himself. It refers to a platonic relationship that Cohen had with Suzanne Verdal, the girlfriend of the sculptor Armand Vaillancourt, and visits that Cohen would make to her Montreal apartment to drink Constant Comment tea and take walks by the water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigelow_Tea_Company

March 25, 2014

Thanks, I know some people can add or subtract text from pictures, I don't know how. Here's one:



That's Bagley Creek in WA. I have it in my screensaver file, but that pic you had would have been a good addition.


March 25, 2014

Done in Seattle about 10 years ago to house those homeless who couldn't break substance addiction.

Widely jeered by conservative talk shows in the area, but supported by the Catholic Diocese and others. It worked. It is the success of secularism and the belief that people are equal. They were not forced into temporary, crowded shelters without normal decent levels of privacy and safety, demanding they surrender their freedom of thought or conscience to have a roof, a place to cook and bathe and maintain themselves as most people take for granted.

The issue of homelessness is not as complicated as people like to make out it is. It has been treated like a mystery plague. There is no mystery. The issue is housing for those, who for whatever reason and without discrimination against how they found themselves unable to afford it, getting a place to live to call their own.

Period. It's not homelessness, which is often thought to be the result of not being able to get along with anyone. It's houselessness. Persons with addictions, without jobs, with mental disorder or physical illnesses, without the ability to get along with others, do so out of the public eye if they have housing and are not put in the position of being a public spectacle for every ignorant yahoo to judge and comment upon. They are just people with human problems.

New Deal programs built units for people to live in that were gradually, with media voices, defunded, demonized and sold off to developers. Nixon and then Reagan accelerated the end of these, always using such memes as 'welfare frauds, babies out of wedlock, drug addicts' etc. There are plenty of those in private life. Look how many celebrities do these things and are not punished by not having space to live, as if they are toxic waste.

The problems of 'houseless' people is not some exotic thing needing to be studied. People in that situation have been treated like specimens at the zoo. Or inmates at wildlife theme parks. They are just people without a roof. They are forced to do things people would not normally do, that only wild animals do as if they had no more sense than them. I find some 'solutions' to ameliorate their houseless condition, without addressing their lack of housing, to be demeaning and short sighted.

They are forced to sleep outdoors, under bridges, in dumpsters, in hastily rigged shelters; forage for food after traipsing through hostile areas to get a meal, at someone else's beck and call and not at a normal human time, not with the freedom those giving them such aid enjoy; unable to keep clean or take care of body functions as we all do; are subject of the whims of those contributing to clothing drives, all the rest.

It is an enormous waste of time on the people without a house and who are traveling from one feeding station to the next. They are people, just like those with housing, but have far too long been treated as unwanted pets living by the fickle generosity of those who can pass them by.

Many people think these private solutions by handing out aid is the sign of a good heart, and in the dearth of public will to see these people as anything but the 'other,' it is needed. But it is a massive failure, if they do not have a fixed address. I find those who want to expand the right of the homeless to continue to be homeless, to be easily angered when I say the goal is housing much more than the measures being taken, because they claim they are doing all they need to do God's will. It's not about personal feelings as people's feelings change, but the need for housing doesn't. I am glad Charleston, Tucson, Seattle and others have gone to the root of the problem

Housing is dignity, and should be a human right. We have a long way to go yet in this nation to address the avarice and hard hearts that created this problem. The picture of the man in his housing unit, is that of a man being shown respect, has privacy and can organize his time to make sdecisions at his own pace. With that basic need taken care of, he is now happy.

That's not too much to ask, IMO.



March 25, 2014

Thank you! Remember this thread when we were being spooked in 2012?

ELECTION SPOILER: Obama wins in a LANDSLIDE

All this handwringing & worrywart crap.

It means nothing to me.

All the 'this poll says this' & 'this poll says that'.

It means nothing to me...

How can I be so sure?

Well, just LOOK at these fools.

...Who they got?

...What? Hahahahahaha!

...I knew more & more as each day went on that we were looking at the end of the Republican Party on the National Stage. The Southern Strategy DIES in this election. They hold a strong bitter Plurality but no longer a Majority.

Appealing to the Bigots for the benefit of the Selfish Rich will no longer work on Presidential elections after this. Once the Republicans lose the National Stage they will eventually lose the Regional Stages. Either the Republican Party TRIPLES down for 2016 with the same strategy & lose even harder.

Or the Republican Party goes searching for another reliable voting block to pad the Elite (AKA Few) Greedy Rich's numbers for future elections. That takes time & they lose in the short term in search of this new base. If they don't find one in time, they lose permanently.

...Damn the polls. Damn the crying & carrying on...


Edited from the 2012 Original by John Lucas

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251130631

There are current GOP equivalents running against us just as we had the insane clown posse of 2012. F.U.D. didn't phase John then and it shouldn't phase any of us now. The media mileau was just as bad then. And the prognasticators of doom were just as active, too.

So, that's how I'm going to look at this thing. No more mealy mouthed whining is gonna get in our way. DU was in a meltdown finding everything wrong and had bought into the GOP mantra of inevitability with their big money.

If we believe in people and not money, we will win. They are paper tigers, knock 'em down. We can't give up before the votes are taken. That's be a self-fulfilling prophecy.





March 25, 2014

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How the superstate Eurasia began...

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