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January 6, 2014

Definitely. And our invasion of Canada is set back once again. Kinda like Russia did the Germans...

And the French... And most likely some others.

But seriously, yes, the melting ice and warming waters contribute to this and the only thing that I've heard worse are the predictions about the underwater conveyor belt in the ocean.

It's said to be slowing. It would stop doing what serves to moderate land temperatures and just make things worse. Someone posted a video in the V&MM forum, of rhe many changes over time of Earth's global temperature and chemistry.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017168029

We really screwed the pooch this time. As in, 'to make an irreparable (possibly tragic) mistake.'

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January 6, 2014

It is love of the search for knowledge and not ego that leads one to realize there is more beyond.

In contrast, the more hubris and expending energy fighting over who is best gets one the closer to:

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.[1]

Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding.

David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others".[2]


January 6, 2014

Carl Sagan - Demon Haunted World



Published on May 12, 2012


Eminent Cornell astronomer and bestselling author Sagan debunks the paranormal and the unexplained in a study that will reassure hardcore skeptics but may leave others unsatisfied.

To him, purported UFO encounters and alien abductions are products of gullibility, hallucination, misidentification, hoax and therapists' pressure; some alleged encounters, he suggests, may screen memories of sexual abuse.

He labels as hoaxes the crop circles, complex pictograms that appear in southern England's wheat and barley fields, and he dismisses as a natural formation the Sphinx-like humanoid face incised on a mesa on Mars, first photographed by a Viking orbiter spacecraft in 1976 and considered by some scientists to be the engineered artifact of an alien civilization.

In a passionate plea for scientific literacy, Sagan deftly debunks the myth of Atlantis, Filipino psychic surgeons and mediums such as J.Z. Knight, who claims to be in touch with a 35,000-year-old entity called Ramtha.

He also brands as superstition ghosts, angels, fairies, demons, astrology, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and religious apparitions.


January 6, 2014

WHAT 'consensus on DU seems to be that scientists and science can't be trusted'?

Not hankering to live in what Sagan calls 'The Demon Haunted World.'



Carl Sagan - Demon Haunted World

Published on May 12, 2012


Eminent Cornell astronomer and bestselling author Sagan debunks the paranormal and the unexplained in a study that will reassure hardcore skeptics but may leave others unsatisfied.

To him, purported UFO encounters and alien abductions are products of gullibility, hallucination, misidentification, hoax and therapists' pressure; some alleged encounters, he suggests, may screen memories of sexual abuse.

He labels as hoaxes the crop circles, complex pictograms that appear in southern England's wheat and barley fields, and he dismisses as a natural formation the Sphinx-like humanoid face incised on a mesa on Mars, first photographed by a Viking orbiter spacecraft in 1976 and considered by some scientists to be the engineered artifact of an alien civilization.

In a passionate plea for scientific literacy, Sagan deftly debunks the myth of Atlantis, Filipino psychic surgeons and mediums such as J.Z. Knight, who claims to be in touch with a 35,000-year-old entity called Ramtha.

He also brands as superstition ghosts, angels, fairies, demons, astrology, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and religious apparitions.


Carl Sagan's views are what I grew up with and they are the view of liberals and progressives. But in the liberal and progressive is also a thread of skepticism toward all forms of authority.

That is healthy, but it has to be informed skepticism,. not this CT crap that gleans its knowledge from RW radio shows preaching how Obama is coming for everyone, and how the world is going to be a police state and enslaved.

Oh, there will be slaves, all right. Those will be the ones who refuse to move forward and the rest of the world won't have time for their blathering. Education is the key, but so few want to be 'standardized' as my generation was, where evolution was not up for debate, where science was the answer to almost anything but also NOT AN END to human progress at any stage.

Science, as Sagan explains, is not just a dogma, but some people think they can waive the word 'Science' around and 'Facts' with as much meaning as the RW slogans about 'socialism' and 'liberty.' They don't see or exhibit the kind of humble mindset that scientific geniuses truly have as they think they have the answer to everything,

The fact is, no one does. Science is a process, not meant to be used as a hammer over anyone's heads. Sagan saw our present day coming from what was being generated by media and politics. And warned us what the trends were.

He also warned us that our time is short to fix these problems as a species. Either because of climate change, the population explosion, the power to brainwash and thus persuade, or the funneling of wealth to the few. Complacency he said, is foolishness.

Yet I see complacency in dealing with the real problems falling down while people fight each others. Just what the uber rich want us to do.

I don't think anyone at DU want this nightmare scenario that is being promoted everywhere, as it ends all our freedoms. But we can be civil to each other in less important issues.

Regarding Global Warming and the disruption to the climate, the idea that it's caused by planets, the sun, or is not happening is a RW lie, one they all know is not true.

Their real objection is the loss of profit. It is part of why they deny that humans have anything to do with the problem. They want to keep on doing what they are doing.

There are plenty of signs they know full well what is going on but don't want the unwashed masses to know and interfere while gathering up all the wealth they can to escape the impacts as much as possible.

The RW and uber rich know exactly what is going on and have access to the best information through all the highest scientific organizations. Which they are increasingly taking out of the public sphere into the private one, leaving a dearth of knowledge.

They BELIEVE in the science. This other crap is fodder for terminally stupid followers that have their minds full of Duck Dynasty and every other piece of fantastic crap that belches out of Hollywood and the rest of the media. They are busy creating a permanent underclass that can be easily controlled.

They are the enemy, not DUers. I'm getting tired of these threads, I feel like the IQ of DU is going down as people fall for divide and conquer crap. The people causing this DO NOT post here at DU.

EOM.

January 6, 2014

I've had good experience with acupuncture, chiro and therapeutic massage. Some think such things are

faith based or placebo. I never took that approach.

To me they are just physical therapy, that's all. I've had a lot of physical therapy and drugs given. So much so they damaged my liver, digestion, etc. They only worked on the symptoms, not the cause.

AFAIK, the kind of injuries I have with the pinched nerves cannot be alleviated by drugs. What works best for me is manipulating the body itself.

I can understand the hostility. My aunt, my father's sister died, because instead of seeing an MD, she went to a chiro and my dad was quite bitter about it and decried the quackery. This was over 50 years ago and she was only a few years older than he was.

She had heart disease and the chiro was trying to alleviate gall bladder pain, and she didn't want the surgery as it was back then, it was very rough. I look back on and know she made a huge mistake. She may have had both conditions, but it was the heart trouble that killed her quite abruptly.

My father on the other hand, went the conventional route with heart disease and died 3 years later after spending many thousands of dollars. Because he had a 'pre-existing condition,' he was unable to get insurance, no matter who much he could pay. The doctors had a solution that would save his life, but it was iffy and the cost was going to be astronomical. So he went home to die a few weeks before his 52nd birthday.

If the ACA had been law, he might have lived long enough to retire and I would not be an orphan. He was a believer in science and conventional medicine. His belief did not overcome the reality of the for profit medical business. He worked until the last month before he died, and said nothing. What was there to say, what could he change?

Too many Americans have faced that reality, and many of them on this board. Thus the arrogance and condescension to those not so well situated here, just doesn't sit good with me. Some should remember there is a human being with feelings reading these threads, and they may be hurt, or in my case, unmoved by their strait-laced opinions.

My answer to the complaints on those three kinds of treatments, is that it's a physical therapy -- nothing more and nothing less. I don't have to buy into some faith or healing philosophy to make use of it. I find therapeutic massage to be the most affective.

But I did get relief from a numb foot the doctors had given up on for 30 years. I'd had neurological events so they just wrote it off to that and said to live with the imbalance, etc.

But an acupuncturist hit the right nerve closer to the foot, so in just one session I could feel the sole of that foot, not lose my balance from a spinal injury and never had the problem again. That was 8 years ago.

Guess what?

It wasn't a case of 'the placebo effect' either. Because I had not mentioned the problem to them, I said my lower leg was cramped and painful, which it was, without mentioning the other.

It was a problem my MDs knew well, unable to get an reflex on that leg for 30 years. The acupuncturist hit the right nerve by accident and I've never had the problem since.

Why could this not have been part of my care, or investigated earlier, in my opinion, was competition for dollars and exclusivity.

I don't attempt to sell anyone on ideas for their ailments. The reason I tried the acupuncture - for something else - was because my health insurance company at that time covered chiropractic, acupuncture and therapeutic massage. The TM person it just so happened, was also studying acupuncture.

I had severe mobility problems, so much that it was almost impossible to get up, get down, walk, stand, etc. It was exhausting my concentration to have to literally detail every movement most people take for granted.

So the therapist recommended I go to the Bastyr to try to get some relief. That one brief session was more effective and cheaper than regular PT, from which I was not getting any help.

I'm glad you weighed in on this today with your training and experience.

It's aggravating to read the bashing of DUers desperate enough to seek alternatives. We have members who for no fault of their own, have fallen through the cracks, and are in places that some people have no clue about.

Insulting their attempts to get well does not work, in fact it's more likely to run good liberals off from DU, seeing they are in essence, being bashed for the crime of being poor and without health care. It is no more like a Democrat than cheap shots referring to the elderly as subsisting on cat food. My reply was that was not what they give people at food banks, and the poor and elderly are not stupid, just poor. It's easy to talk down to people, though.

In my case, after I lost my insurance, I didn't quality for any medical help, I just quit and tried to get better on my own and I didn't get better, but I could not afford to pay for doctors. The GOP loves to say that people can get medical care for free, just go to the ER and we know that is a callous, dismissive way of treating the poor and not true. We're not supposed to be throwing people 'under the bus' with this kind of talk.

Now I have insurance again this year and finally been to see doctors and specialists to catch up as many are, from lack of proper medical care. My health is getting better. It is a great thing to have access to the knowledge base of the medical profession.

But I will not put anyone down who tries these things out because they are poor. I've seen posts on DU that, in effect, bash people lacking resources for standard, conventional care. That's why I really support the ACA no matter what, better than nothing, which is just what a lot of sick people had.

I'm glad you got over that, being an RN is a tough job, mentally and at times physically. Your work is very necessary to many people.

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January 5, 2014

And that you are a grammar-you-know-what. I refuse to be suppressed!



I agree with your OP, as I already knew how the ads are assigned. I suggest linking this thread every time you find such errors posted.

The solution would be for DU to practice posting original thought and solutions to our national issues, instead of knee jerk reactions to the right wing media memes.

As a media-driven website, this is proving to be increasingly difficult. Many threads are referencing Fox and other sources. Alas, the right wing does own the media and media consolidation has made the news a promoter of the Idiocracy.

But I could not let that grammar reference go without a challenge. I hope you understand.

Signed,

Yours in solidarity, not familiarity,

freshwest.
January 5, 2014

Snowed in BOGers! Give us your video, pictures and stories.



Let us know if it's this much fun where you are. Or just have a good laugh on the house. Turn the music up and compare notes with us.

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