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It's always bubbled under the surface but now it's out to play... the total immorality of the right

Where:

One person's access to healthcare is made sweeter simply because other people do not have access to healthcare

"Good national security" means there is a mass shooter, but it's just a white guy, so you can relax

A heterosexual rapist is somehow more mature and respectable than a law abiding and loving GLBTQ person

"Socialism" is anything that's not acting like a degenerate, a sociopath, putting profits ahead of human lives, or a combination of those things

One's love for their country is put on trial by those who have no love for their country

If you run afoul of them, be prepared to face death threats and insinuations that in any other culture would be taboo to not only participate in but to also accuse people of being in them... like Pizzagate or QAnon

We're told that "all lives matter", but so do statues dedicated to traitors for some reason

We're supposed to have peace with Russia so we can wage war on 1.5 billion Muslims

"True" religion is now a backer of power and status quo seen in things like prosperity gospel, things where you being rich and powerful must be a sign that God loves you

It's apparently "reasonable" to think that if a kid doesn't want to be shot in school, then they must have had their mind warped by "George Soros and his je-'globalist' buddies"

According to Tucker Carlson, a government sometimes has to kill people, but Twitter enforcing it's TOS, that is what is beyond the pale

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Defend others from them
Vote against them
Deplatform them
Discredit them
Debunk them
Defund them

Ignoring them won't work though, this completely immoral right wing is on parade and it's only going to get worse.

Our assumption that everyone is, at heart, a rational actor is as dangerous for our country...

as the "division" and "incivility" ships are.

Perhaps even more dangerous.

The idea that we can simply debate or discuss away racism, sexism, classism, the hypocrisy and double standards surrounding Trump and right wing evangelicals and coming from them on a daily basis, white nationalism and white nationalist terrorism, etc. is naive at best, lazy in the middle, and outright running away from the issue at worst.

Idealism is a nice thing to have, don't get me wrong, but warm fuzzy feelings and nothing but are going to get us the same thing that 65 million votes got us in 2016.

You can point out the fact that middle America or the "real American" is losing his job because a rich white man is closing down the factory and that it is a rich white Republican cutting his safety net all day every day, but you know what? He's still going to blame immigrants for taking his job and minorities for leaving him in the lurch. Happens every time.

This didn't happen overnight, the same forces that turned just the word "liberal" into a pejorative have been cornering the market on using cognitive distortions (Like black and white thinking such as something they don't like being "socialism" ), logical fallacies, ignoring cost-benefit, not caring about the long term consequences of one's actions, and more in our political landscape and using them as rhetorical tools.

And we shouldn't be a party to this, by letting them get away with the lack of rationality, we are contributing to this. It's time to say no more; from debates on forums to discussions at family dinner tables all the way to what we see in DC and as we go into the 2020 election, if people can't discuss things as rational actors, then there's no point in having a discussion and we need to call that out.

And as for platforms that traffic in these things... sites like Infowars, groups like the Alt-Right, and QAnon; looking at you fools... shut them down.

The Brits acknowledged our Declaration of Independence. Too late to say "Didn't mean it?"



I read the Declaration of Independence and see the things the founding fathers went to war over and these are things we let Trump and McConnell do and then we say "Oh well" or "Elections have consequences" to.

"He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. AKA gerrymandering.

"He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. OK

"He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. Ahem, Merrick Garland might have something to say about that.

"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance. Future Space Force

"He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures. The 'national emergency' right there

"He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power. Military budget right there for you

"For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: Talk to AG Barr about that one

"For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: It sure would be nice to have a government that represents us, one man, one vote. That sort of thing.

"For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury: What Trump's bff Putin wants, he's not going to denounce it, are we going to see it here?

So I guess maybe an apology to the British crown and the people of Britain is in order if we're not going to keep living up to the same standards we set up for ourselves in 1776 when we declared independence from them, if we like living under the thumb of McConnell and Trump and being subject to their whims, then at least we should say to the British that we didn't mean all those things back in 1776. It makes sense.

"Disenchantment" with liberalism is not a surprise to anyone, it's the authoritarian game

This is what they have been doing... they've whipped up a generation of Americans to see the liberal as the "Them", as a pejorative, you've got Keith Ablow saying on Fox News that the Unabomber had a point about liberalism being bad, and frankly, if liberals started coming out and saying they were against cannibalism, incest, and human sacrifice, we'd have people coming out FOR them and they've got all the "reasons" for it on lock. A combination of contrarianism and conditioning has led us to this point.

I have a feeling that Putin was practicing that speech against liberalism for years, years before Trump was even elected. Just looking for a place to use it, I'm sure he has more lined up.

The authoritarian uses things up and then discards them when they no longer have value to them, you know how how Trump was questioning Obama's legitimacy for 8 years through the racist birther movement then suddenly disavowed when it was clear he was going to win the nomination? Like that.

That applies to people too, just ask the people of Ryazan in 1999 or the people of Beslan when the Russian government needed to look strong against Islamist terrorists and decided to wipe EVERYONE out.

You, me... we're fodder to the authoritarian, an interchangeable part. The same as the 30%ers too, but they won't realize that.

Giving hugs to people who say "I'm not racist but..." won't stop this; it's the Constitution, American values, freedom, equality, guaranteed rights and protections on side and authoritarianism on the other.

I think the least horrible solution here is removing the platform of the authoritarian, it's what we got to do.

Keep Omelas Great?

When I was a kid, I read the story "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" by Ursula Le Guin, it stuck with me, I read this story before Trump, before Obama, before George W Bush even to give you an idea, and it stuck with me, that's why I'm bringing it up now. It haunted me so to speak.

I suggest reading it, I will say this though, Omelas is a place of greatness and wonder, but something dark and evil powers that greatness and wonder.

And then I see the US, I see how great and wonderful we're supposed to be, but what is the cost of that greatness?

This is made all the more apparent in the conditions the detained children are in. How squalid these conditions are or dealing with angry and sadistic guards. "We" are expected to feel better about ourselves, safer, more secure, superior because "we" can and do this to children.

The "Great Again" in "Make America Great Again" is our Omelas.

But I'm not content with just walking away from Omelas, Omelas should fall.

The same people who ate up a video that made Pelosi look drunk and stories about pizzeria satanists

Are now urging war over a Totally Authentic Video that shows Totally Iran doing Totally Bad Things.

Don't let 2019 be a repeat of 2003.

"Socialism" is not toxic or poisonous, but I can tell you what is...

It's the wing of the political spectrum that says valuing human lives over confederate statues, that getting vaccinated, that buying supplies before a potential disaster, and, oh right, not wanting to get shot in school are all examples of "socialism" today.

It's weird how this isn't obvious to everyone.

Making a child give birth is an attack on the concept of childhood

Our system isn't perfect, it could always use more and more reform, but not letting 11 year old girls become mothers is a step in the right direction.

Let's work to ensure it wasn't a step in the right direction.

Childhood is a social construct, but it's one that has created a degree of social equality... that it doesn't matter if you are poor or rich, if you are a CHILD, you shouldn't be working or being a mother, you shouldn't be worried about money or carrying children, you should be learning, socializing, and having fun.

This isn't a coincidence, this isn't a bug, an unintended consequence of the right wing agenda. The concept of a universal childhood is a blow against social stratification, the child of a richer-than-God parent has something in common with the child of a poorer-than-dirt parent. And of course if these bans go through, the child of a richer-than-God parent won't be forced to give birth, it's not going to happen, we all know that.

The right wing at it's core likes social stratification, it desires it, it sees it as normal and even a good thing. Heck, this goes back to the very root of left vs right in the French Revolution; somebody is supposed to be a king and somebody is supposed to be a peasant.

It's funny, we're being told people on the Democratic side and the Republican side need to stop being divided and come together, yet here we are, creating divisions between the rich and the poor, making the class system more and more real, more palpable.

A lot of people, a lot of institutes believe in nature over nurture in the nature vs nurture debate

That's the point of genetic testing for example

That's the point of "racial science"

That's the point of calling something "human nature"

It's the backbone of racism, sexism, and classism

When we hear that homosexuality isn't natural, it's because the people who do say it believe that heterosexuality is natural and that non-heterosexuality is a "learned perversion"

Could go on with more examples of how nature in the nature vs nurture debate is gets a head start in our rhetoric, policies, history, debates, etc. (Full disclosure: As you can probably tell, I'm biased for nurture in the nature vs nurture debate and another reason I think nature gets this head start is because I consider "nature" to be conducive to the status quo, but that's another story for another time)

So then it makes me wonder, why then, when it comes to rape and women carrying their rapist's babies and the recent debates we've been having now that the right to abortion could end soon, does the nature vs nurture debate suddenly stop? We can use gene editing, the CRISPR for example, to make sure a rapist's genes are not passed on by making them so different the baby might as well not be the rapist's baby anymore. If I was on the nature side, I wouldn't want this to happen, a rapist shouldn't be rewarded with having a contribution to the gene pool and did so using anti-social acts.

It makes me think of two reasons:

We use the CRISPR gene editor to get rapist genes out of the gene pool and we'll have to use it for everything. Universal healthcare. Can't have that now!

Perhaps worse. People don't care. A lot of people in power and on the street may not want to admit it, but they see rape as more "normal" than perhaps they would care to admit. It is an exercise of power of men over women. It's domination. It's functional even. A rapist's baby is a feature, not a bug, of the gender power status quo.

It's baffling why people vote GOP when it's quite clear that Democrats have SUPERPOWERS!

Let's go over the roster of some of these superpowered Democrats...

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez AKA The 30% Destructor - Whatever she does, a chunk of the population will become diametrically opposed to it to the point of them not even knowing why they do it. She wants a clean environment, the chunk will resist it! She wants progressive taxation, this chunk will THROW their own money at CEOs! She makes a statement against cannibalism, well... Amazing!

Hillary Clinton AKA Miss President - Has numerous superpowers. Constructed emails that Republicans are UNABLE to get over. SHOCKING psionic powers that helped her escape Republican inquisitors several times. However, taken out of commission when she apparently manipulated reality to somehow make 63 million greater than 65 million! How did she do it though?!

Rep. Ilhan Omar AKA Doctor Muslim - She has the superpower where ANYTHING she says becomes Pro-Terrorist, Anti-American, and Anti-Israel all at the same time! Incredible!

(Identity Unknown) AKA The Future Democratic President - Right now, impeachment of a President is impossible with a moving goalpost that will not stop and a bar that is unattainable. The Future Democratic President will have a shrink ray though that will shrink the measure of what is needed for impeachment down to practically nothing. When the standard is shrunk, impeachment will not be about high crimes and misdemeanors, but about "cleansing the office", according to Senator Lindsey Graham. Unbelievable!
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