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eissa

(4,238 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:42 PM Feb 2020

Surprised by the early results

I was disappointed, but not too worried after Iowa. But I thought Liz would fare better in NH, yet these early results are concerning. How can Mayor Pete be doing better than her? So heartsick right now She’s been my one and only choice since 2016, I can’t imagine that she won’t pull through!

Does anyone have some insider info that will give me some hope?

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
1. Its early and she's head and shoulders the best candidate. maybe she should shake up her campaign
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:45 PM
Feb 2020

staff.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
12. She should, they have been pretty much useless
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:49 AM
Feb 2020

Warren had a great lane, to the right of Bernie ideologically but just as strong on fighting corporate influence in our politics and defending the interests of working and middle class people. Even stronger when you look at her actual record of achievement and her ability to articulate issues and solutions. Someone with brains should have been able to leverage that into more clear positioning in the field but it didn’t happen. Instead she got sucked into three months of figuring out how to sell Bernie’s health care plan.

Then there were the debates and what for me was the biggest debacle of all which was the wine cave attack. Whoever advised her to do that should have been pushed aside and muted for good. The problem with Buttigieg’s approach to funding isn’t the method of fundraising, it’s the sources. Talk about his bundler Tony James of Blackstone, a company whose political contributions helped kill a law that would have addressed surprise medical billing, something that happened just the week before that debate. Get into the guts of your signature issue which is corruption and show people how they are being hurt by it in real time. The stage was set; she and her team pushed him to release the names of his bundlers, got the information and made the decision to talk about friggin wine caves...All that did was open her up to charges of hypocrisy for the money she raised in 2018 using the same methods. Inept.

There are other examples; one of the foremost authorities on bankruptcy in the country hasn’t brought the issue up once in a debate. Nor was it ever featured in any detail in her stump speech. How is that even possible? I could go on, but Warren needed much better guidance than she got. It sickens me because she is a rarity in our politics, a soulful policy wonk, and her team hasn’t helped her make the most of the opportunity.

blm

(113,039 posts)
2. She was attacked pretty viciously by Biden and Pete camps all fall, and then
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:48 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders camp all January.

Their dishonest attacks brought her numbers down.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
7. And the media in a lot of cases hardly said anything about her except to demigod her
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:42 PM
Feb 2020

you hit it right on the mark.........................

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
3. outside of her personal tv appearances, the media has ignored her in pundit discussions
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:49 PM
Feb 2020

For the past two weeks.

Google “erasing Warren”.

If she has the funds to stay in the race through March, things could turn around if others (Biden, Yang, maybe Amy) drop out. Hopefully she’ll finish a strong third on Super Tuesday.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
4. I still have hope because we are still in the early stages.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:53 PM
Feb 2020

AND perhaps the numbers from NH are not what they would have been if trumpy didn't tell his supporters to go meddle in our primary and vote for who they think will be his weakest opponent in the general. Thumb on scale big time!

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-encourages-supporters-new-hampshire-go-vote-weak-democratic-2020-candidate-1486626

marlakay

(11,446 posts)
9. I thought she would do better since its close to her state
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:48 PM
Feb 2020

But its also close to Bernies and he took most of the progressive vote.

I don’t vote till June so I am wondering if she will still be in by then. Sigh...



BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
11. I believe that it's safer to
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:27 AM
Feb 2020

say that he received more votes from GOPers and Independents seeking to sow mischief.

Since October, Elizabeth Warren has been subject to non-stop vilification almost - but not quite yet - on a par with what Hillary received in 2016. Some of that happens right here in DU, I'm afraid.

Bernie and the boys get to skate for the most part. Everything she says and does is dissected to the nth degree.

That will continue because certain powerful elements are VERY afraid of her.

That is telling.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
10. I have too often seen results
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:20 AM
Feb 2020

in NH that are not reflected throughout the nation.

As I have said MANY times in this and other Presidential election cycles, an open primary like that in NH is all too easily open to mischief.

Democratic primaries should be for registered Democrats ONLY.

That has been my position from the get-go. And I'm not changing it now. Or ever, for that matter.

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