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still_one

(92,213 posts)
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:10 PM May 2019

I am disappointed that Joe Biden will not be at the California Democratic Convention. He has

another commitment, headlining a dinner for an LGBT rights group on Saturday night, but this makes Joe the only top Democratic candidate to skip the convention.

I hope the Biden campaign is not making a mistake on this



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underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
1. It won't affect my support for him.
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:15 PM
May 2019

He made a choice to keep his commitment to a group under extreme attack from the right and the criminal and traitorous trump admin. I applaud his decision. Also, not being at the CA Dem convention will give others a chance to have the spotlight. To me, it's a win win.

still_one

(92,213 posts)
5. There will be another similar meeting in November, and he said he hopes to be there then. He did
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:50 PM
May 2019

call and express his regret about attending this one, but hopes to be there in November


George II

(67,782 posts)
7. I was at the annual Democratic Dinner (previously called the Jefferson Jackson Bailey) years ago....
Fri May 31, 2019, 11:07 PM
May 2019

All Congressmen and Senators were stuck in Washington due to a budget snafu. All of our delegation appeared on remote video.

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still_one

(92,213 posts)
6. I know it sounds like I am minimizing the LGBT event, and that isn't my intention at all. It is
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:02 PM
May 2019

concern that if negative innuendos are made by some of the candidates about him, he won't be there to defend himself.

but you are right, civil rights cannot be put off

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
9. it also makes Biden the only top Dem to attend the LGBT rights group..
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 08:13 PM
Jun 2019

...on Sat night. Im happy with his choice. He has his own agenda and its all inclusive.

still_one

(92,213 posts)
10. I agree. In addition, the California Democratic Party does not necessarily represent its California
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 08:56 PM
Jun 2019

Democarts. This was demonstrated when they endorsed Kevin de Leon for Senator over Dianne Feinstein.

"Dianne Feinstein won reelection by an overwhelming majority in that race.

This proved the state party organization comes nowhere near representing the party’s membership.

It also begs the question why is that, and that goes to how they select their delegates for the next party convention.

They have caucuses in all California Assembly districts where they choose 14 delegates per district for the next convention, the one we are seeing now.

The problem was, the party didn't notify most of the Democrats of the vote that was to take place, and there was no notice on the party website. Most who attended were informed by candidates or word of mouth, and they called this a Democratic process?

Those who did turn up for the caucuses, heard a few speeches, then waited in line to vote, and when they voted, no one verified where they lived, or whether they had already voted.

They used a hand stamp as there verification, but not everyone received that hand stamp. It was somewhat of an "honor" system, where anyone could vote, citizen or not, district resident or not, Democrat or not, multiple times.
The check was through a laptop computer per caucus, used to verify ID through a voter DB, but only if someone challenged the legitimacy of a would be voter.

and determining who won these delegate elections was a mess. The party created two gender categories: "self-identified female" and "male/other than self-identified female" Voters could mark seven in each category, but no matter who got the most votes, the top seven of each would become delegates. So if 14 self-identified other-than-females got more votes than the leading female, seven would be knocked out.
This is democracy?"

https://www.redding.com/story/opinion/columnists/tom-elias/2019/04/08/california-democrats-art-they-really-democratic/2916017002/

In addition, the booing, and interruptions that occurred against a couple of our Democratic candidates, and some of the prominent Democratic Congress people speaking, is reminiscent of the behavior of a certain faction, that is not the sole voice of the Democratic party. The Democratic party is a large tent, and because one faction is loud and rude, does not make them spokes persons for the California Democrats.

I have since changed my initial concerns, and agree with you samnsara, and some of those people who are pushing the "bad optics" theme for Joe Biden, I suspect some of them are the same faction who endorsed de Leon over Feinstein. So one should NOT assume what comes out of the California Democratic Convention, or the California Democratic party, represents what California Democrats feel.

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