Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,978 posts)The person with women of color booing him at a presidential forum should be the one worried.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Before decamping to Trump's populism in the GE, most who voted in the primary chose the male populist over the liberal woman. This time there are lots of men to choose from, and they weren't impressed with Sanders's wooing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,978 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:53 PM - Edit history (1)
packed. This is starting to look more and more like a Biden/Harris ticket.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)ideas. But I have to confess I like the pairing also; a lot of people fasten on her job as a prosecutor, but a progressive activist group evaluated her to be the most progressive senator by votes and achievements. Too bad Elizabeth Warren is white and a northeasterner.
Who'd have thought a one-color male-female ticket would lack a desirable degree of diversity so soon, though? We (amazingly!) haven't elected a woman of any color president yet, but at least minority men can be said to have made substantial progress, with the traditional assumed trickle-down benefits to their "womenfolk."
Oh, my. I just remembered way back when militant black activists called on black women to contribute to the revolution by producing more black babies. Did NOT go over well!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,978 posts)of circumstances with Biden getting in and who pairs best with him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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MineralMan
(146,351 posts)But, then again, I'm not Trump. I'm not corporate America, and I'm not the Democratic establishment. I'm just one Democratic voter who wants very, very badly to:
VOTE HIM OUT!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,236 posts)did you name the Democratic Establishment? I'm a proud member of the Democratic Party and many like me consider ourselves to be part of the Democratic Establishment. Do you like Dems?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,351 posts)I'm a Democrat, and an active one. But I am a single person, not an Establishment, as Senator Sanders describes it. I'm just using his phrase. Please see the original tweet.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wounded Bear
(58,783 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,987 posts)Bernie overestimates the nervousness of the so-called "establishment." And exactly what is that, anyhow? Isn't a career politician who's been in government for most of his adult life, who drifts into the Democratic party every four years when it's advantageous, equally a member of the "establishment"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(50,020 posts)WASHINGTON When Leah Daughtry, a former Democratic Party official, addressed a closed-door gathering of about 100 wealthy liberal donors in San Francisco last month, all it took was a review of the 2020 primary rules to throw a scare in them.
Democrats are likely to go into their convention next summer without having settled on a presidential nominee, said Ms. Daughtry, who ran her partys conventions in 2008 and 2016, the last two times the nomination was contested. And Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont is well positioned to be one of the last candidates standing, she noted.
I think I freaked them out, Ms. Daughtry recalled with a chuckle, an assessment that was confirmed by three other attendees. They are hardly alone...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,360 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,707 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)If the powers-that-be see that as a threat, then we know where the real problem lies
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,125 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)He has ZERO chance of winning.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)Both establishments see him as a threat. That's because he is driving the political system back to the left where is should be.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,289 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)If Biden clings to the center, it might haunt him later. Right now, Sanders is driving the party to the left ideologically.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,289 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)that he's in though right?
I'm just really really turned off and it took a lot to for me to get there....but I am officially there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)He's a sitting US Senator who says he's a Dem. That says "Establishment" to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(42,004 posts)Ive had enough of that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)Yet he is the front runner?
Sounds like a dilemma.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)In the world of reality, he is barely second and dropping fast.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)That's how politics work.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(298,049 posts)"centrists". If BS would pay attention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,556 posts)Thanks for the article SHRED.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
yaesu
(8,020 posts)should never be put in the same boat as tRump, I like Bernie but the Democratic establishment, which has never been perfect, is all we have to work with right now, they will be running our parties election, it is not a them vs us thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Renew Deal
(81,900 posts)Anyway, Democrats aren't worried that he's going to win. That's not going to happen. Democrats are worried that he's going to cost Democrats the election with his behavior.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(298,049 posts)these kinds of non answers.
Bernie has a rough time at She the People conference
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=86745
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brewens
(13,666 posts)to tank. Maybe I was thinking wrong, but I felt that would mean we were onto something.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,812 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:43 PM - Edit history (1)
If you're going to run an insult comedy campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,469 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)to meet the qualification of a "bona-fide Democrat" whose:
"public writings and/or public statements affirmatively demonstrates that he or she is faithful to the interests, welfare and success of the Democratic Party of the United States, and will participate in the Convention in good faith."
I'm not nervous, I'm disgusted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)I think Perez should write a public letter stating "either stop the attacks on Democrats or pack your bags."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)And as a result, we learned that The Establishment is not so evil after all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,773 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Runningdawg
(4,531 posts)I don't believe he will leave the WH peacefully and I believe the blowback from the MAGAts is going to be epic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
saljr1
(273 posts)way he criticizes them all the time. Biden and Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)He's well known, he doesn't have Hillary Clinton to kick around, and there are 19 other people to talk about his record this time.
Nobody is scared.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)He is driving politics in the Democratic party right now. He is the most influential politician within the Democratic party right now, and he is consistently the most popular politician in the country.
These things make the powers that be within the party very nervous.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)his biggest accomplishment was naming two post offices in Vermont.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)I think he has a peak of 25% once the debates start.
He has sharp elbows and doesn't play nice so he should not be surprised when he takes a few in the coming months.
I'd vote for him over Trump. Wouldn't vote for him in any primary though.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
namahage
(1,157 posts)And from which poll do you get that?
The one with only 16 choices, where Biden--and a bunch of others--weren't included, and where Warren loses to both Trump and Pence?
Or the one where Vermont's constituents approve of him in high proportions? That's like saying SPAM is the most popular food in the country since it is overwhelmingly popular with Hawaiians.
It clearly can't be current polling, where Biden leads Bernie in a vast majority of the cases, often by double digits.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skittles
(153,310 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Afromania
(2,771 posts)You are right? I mean that's why you are trying to win the "Democratic" nomination? See, I'm not so sure you should win "our" nomination if you are about something that would make us "nervous". The fact that you think so is what actually makes me "nervous".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,812 posts)The Democratic establishment is "worried the country is ready to return to the New Deal policies they've spent 50 years destroying."
That's right, it was the Democrats, not Republicans, trying to destroy New Deal policies this whole time! I've seen it explained: after McGovern's loss the Democratic Party decided New Deal policies would not win elections for them ever again, began shifting Right. By the time Bill Clinton ran for president the unions didn't have any power or money so he turned to Wall St., abandoning unions and the working/middle classes for the 1%. When progressive legislature is attempted and fails, they are secretly relieved -- they only pretend to support progressive legislature, never fight for it, hate and fear it. (What the Republicans are doing during all of this, they do not say.)
That's why Bernie thinks the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt and nobody talked about any progressive issues until he ran for president. It is why only he can save the people from the Democratic establishment.
The End.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I thought so all along. Sometimes it coincides with other Democrats, but sometimes it doesn't. And that's okay with him. As long as his agenda gets pushed further along.
I don't know what to think about him. He's good at politicking, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ecstatic
(32,786 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)And decreases his chances in a general election. The exact opposite of what they believe they are doing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nuggets
(525 posts)he tries to smear Democrats as the establishment.
That tired old line has been used since the 60s and is just as ridiculous now as it was then.
Plus I think he has as much chance of winning the Democratic primary, let alone the GE as America has of hearing a truthful statement from Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sparkly
(24,162 posts)With no connections, no money, no political machinery, etc.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Biden took the oxygen out of Bernie's media presence so he had to pull this stunt.
"Look at me!!! I'm still here."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,049 posts)still divisive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,289 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But, maybe by then Bernie would have quit the race.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,289 posts)in the right direction as soon as they take office.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)HE is the one who is getting nervous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden