Democratic Primaries
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...Harris second.
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Biden-Harris 2020
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,237 posts)Biden/Harris would be a great ticket!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,825 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)I first start talking about that among my friends a few months ago and now they tell it sounds better and better.. We have to bring white working class voters back to democrats, that is a MUST. That alone can make GOP a minority party for a few decades. We may need that long to fix what 2 years of trump as wreaked upon our country
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BigmanPigman
(51,673 posts)Three generations, male and female and none of them thought of this before but after considering it they all approved.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
colorado_ufo
(5,743 posts)I love her presence, which is extremely commanding every time she walks into a room. But I never really hear anything solid when she speaks. I am very tired of hearing her say that she wants to have a conversation about something. After the conversation, then what? Then will she propose something? Will she refer the matter to Congress? Will she form some sort of committee to further investigate and have even more conversations? I want to hear something solid in the way of policy. I do love the way Elizabeth Warren comes up with actual answers and has the courage to state her positions and not hedge on the questions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pangaia
(24,324 posts)One would think SOMEBODY would have the brilliant creativity to at LEAST start saying, "Have a discussion."
Same with "reach out" to someone.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,404 posts)Another good site:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Kamala_Harris.htm
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"I never really hear anything solid when she speaks..."
I think you do not hear because you do not listen, and hear only that which you wish to; otherwise, you would have heard/read/observed her substantive policy positions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
colorado_ufo
(5,743 posts)I am not able to catch every interview, every town hall, etc. Perhaps I missed what I was hoping to hear.
To claim that I "do not listen" is unfair and insulting, especially since you do not know me at all. The post above yours gave useful links instead of ad hominem attacks.
Let's get back to issues.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snort
(2,334 posts)but I will take it! Go Dems!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)He needs some experience at the state or national level, and he will be a truly formidable candidate. And I'm talking about just a few years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(81,608 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,124 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Wish Joe luck though... perhaps, the third time's the charm.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)has "Joe Biden... never lost a single primary"?! What happened the last two times Joe ran in the Democratic Party primary for President?! Did I miss his last two victories over Dukakis and Obama?!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Quick!! Change the subject!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Yet you're still pretending I didn't say what I said and asking "Where is it"? I know you think it's amusing to ignore what I said... so, go ahead, keep up the shtick, or better yet, change the subject.
But, if you ever want to have a serious conversation, I'm happy to discuss the results of Joe's two Democratic primary losses I've identified. Of course, you don't, so we won't. That's perfectly fine with me!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)No?
Thought so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)I've given up!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)the two primary elections I identified that Joe lost. Not everybody is politically active, so I forgive you for not knowing about those two primary losses.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)and you can't.
I call your bluff. You imagined doing this.
You fold?
Thought so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)ehrnst pretends that didn't happen. Any help you can give would be appreciated.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)LOVE that one!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)"No you didn't".
And no, I won't go your "in what universe....." thing.
You didn't, and he didn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)It's not like it's a big deal to admit Joe lost the two presidential primaries I identified above and, therefore, you mistakenly claimed "Joe Biden has never lost a primary."
Or, don't admit your mistake... I really don't care!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)"Joe Biden has never lost a single primary." If you won't read my response identifying the two primaries Joe lost, I can't help you.
Just admit again that you were wrong and move on... there's no shame in it. Wouldn't that be a lot easier than to keep pretending you don't know that Joe lost two primary elections?! It's not like you're fooling anybody.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)for not "admitting they are WRONG" when they ask you for the location of this alleged retort.
Just admit again that you were wrong and move on... there's no shame in it. It's not like you're fooling anybody.
Argument by Dismissal:
An argument is rejected without saying why. The person who is rejecting the argument may have a good reason; they just refuse to share it. So we cannot assume that this is an error in reasoning. It could better be described as a conscious choice not to participate in the argument.
BOOM!
May I suggest the "ignore" feature which helps many to avoid being tempted to embarass themselves repeatedly?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)But then, perhaps, you're not all that politically active, or too young, to know that Joe previously lost in two presidential primaries. There's no shame in not knowing that... no need to be embarrassed.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Yet none is forthcoming.
I guess, once again, it's been proven one can't link to one's...
But do continue. I love finding these songs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)educate you on the two presidential primaries Joe lost. I've tried several times, unsuccessfully... oh well, it's not like I really care whether you know this or not.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Seems like you're the one pretending. So tell us, in which states did Biden lose primary elections in either of those two years, do you know? C'mon, you can do it, if it really happened. Otherwise, as you say, "you're not fooling anybody".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)An argument is rejected without saying why. The person who is rejecting the argument may have a good reason; they just refuse to share it. So we cannot assume that this is an error in reasoning. It could better be described as a conscious choice not to participate in the argument.
But you still keep on posting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)An argument is rejected without saying why. The person who is rejecting the argument may have a good reason; they just refuse to share it. So we cannot assume that this is an error in reasoning. It could better be described as a conscious choice not to participate in the argument.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)This is becoming a pattern!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Keep pretending you can't find it... and that Joe has never lost a primary. That's a hoot!!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)posts that aren't showing up for anyone but bLuE...
If the link to the graphic in your own signature isn't working, it might be an indication that you're unsure of what URLs are.
Here's the "first post in this silly string" hon:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=88768
7. Congrats on that... let's see how long that lasts. My guess... not very.
Wish Joe luck though... perhaps, the third time's the charm.
Where's the BEEF?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)and that's why you won't link to them.
Embarassment....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....I'd be more than eager to provide links to what I said I said. Wonder why that's not happening in this case?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)but only if it actually exists, and bLuE actually did write those posts.
And yet, no one has seen these posts, but bLuE, and she just keeps on digging that hole deeper with every frantic reply that doesn't include those links.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)The bottom line is that Biden has never, EVER, lost a presidential primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,237 posts)Biden/Harris is the ticket we want.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)That Joe lost TWO presidential primaries, despite the false claim that he's never lost a primary.
But, since you brought it up, the ticket we want is...
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eko
(7,423 posts)The 1988 presidential campaign of Joe Biden, the longtime Democratic United States Senator from Delaware and eventual 47th Vice President of the United States, began in June 1987. He ran for President of the United States in the 1988 United States presidential election. He was considered one of the potentially strongest candidates in the field. However, in September 1987, newspaper stories stated he had plagiarized a speech by British politician Neil Kinnock. Other allegations of past law school plagiarism and exaggerating his academic record soon followed. Biden withdrew from the race later that month.
During the campaign, Biden focused on his plan to achieve political success in the Iraq War through a system of federalization. He touted his record in the Senate as the head of several congressional committees and experience in foreign policy. Despite a few notable endorsements, Biden failed to garner significant support in opinion polls, and was marred by controversial comments made while campaigning. He ultimately dropped out of the race on January 3, 2008, after coming in fifth place and capturing less than 1% of the vote in the Iowa caucus.[4]
He dropped out of both, so technically he never lost those two. That is prob what they are talking about.
Eko.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)from the 2008 presidential primary campaign after all that evidence of plagerism and exaggerations came to light, as you pointed to, then technically he didn't lose that primary race.
In my view, however, once you declare you're in the Democratic Party's primary campaign for president and don't WIN, then you lost that primary campaign. Same thing happened when Obama won the 2008 primary race... Biden declared his candidacy and, then, like other candidates, he had to withdraw due to his dismal showing, and so he LOST that 2008 primary campaign.
Now, if they want to disagree because of the circumstances of Biden's loss in those primary races, FINE... just don't pretend that I didn't make a case why Joe Biden lost in two Democratic primary campaigns for President.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
I think they are more correct than you are. But like I told you before,
Towards me,
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Unfortunately, for some - not you, thanks! - they never even get to a serious substantive conversation because they're too busy either denying what people say or twisting their words into a "straw man argument."
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eko
(7,423 posts)I am trying to stay away from that this primary. I think twice before I post something and when I do I try to do it in a way that is not attacking the poster or their candidate of choice. I try to ask questions or just post info in a reasonable way and state that I disagree with them when I do while trying my best to respect them. Its working so far, hopefully it will the entire primary.
Keep on keeponing!
Eko.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eko
(7,423 posts)and I would happily vote for Sanders if he wins.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)That's progress!!!
Facts are friends!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)there are still those here that will never even acknowledge what you say, let alone admit they're wrong in saying Joe has never lost a primary.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Or that they never posted any evidence to support their claims, let alone MANY TIMES that he "votes more with Democrats than MOST DEMOCRATS vote WITH DEMOCRATS?"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Yep, Biden/Harris would clinch it
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OhZone
(3,212 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,899 posts)Should Joe win the nomination.
They have the smarts, the passion, the energy, and the focus on the issues.....They will appeal to the very broad demographic spectrum of the Democratic Party .
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)If du had twitter gifs, I would add black women in their big church hats marching down the aisle to a gospel tune.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,351 posts)If Joe Biden ends up being the nominee, I'm pretty sure he will be planning a single-term presidency. In that case, That would give Kamala Harris four years to learn the job. I can see her as President in 2024, really.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)But hes SoArINg!1!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
nolabear
(42,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)I like Bernie, but he is a niche candidate, without the broad appeal necessary for a winning 50 state campaign, like Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Or rather the video game. I dont support Bernie, but he didnt do a shaming kind of wag. Just put his finger up and maybe moved it slightly. Seemed like he was saying ok but hold on...I am so hating the slightest gesture, out of context word becoming about insulting and disrespecting, betraying deep racism and misogyny. I especially hate men who have supported womens causes and civil rights being so accused.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Nuance is lost
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FBaggins
(26,793 posts)... the world would be a better place.
I suspect Sanders would take his current polling numbers in public polls over doing better on DU.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)The good news is with a couple more town halls where he advocates for the Dylan Roofs of the world to be able to vote, and a couple of more tone deaf moments like he had at She the People, his real world numbers will start to look a lot like his DU numbers.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doreen
(11,686 posts)and that would need to end. It needs to end now. There is nothing wrong with wanting different candidates but the picking each other apart needs to stop. We all agree that the one most important thing is getting trump out and all of the choices are trying just that.
I am hoping that those who do not win the primary will immediately endorse the winner and let their followers know that they are going to vote for that person. Stomping around and pouting that they did not win will be asinine and just hurt this country further.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(42,005 posts)Biden/Harris sounds a little like Oil/Water. Thats just my impression. Id love that ticket though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
louis c
(8,652 posts)I can envision Biden making a deal after Super Tuesday and being the presumptive nominee. Harris running second or third in delegates. They make the deal and bring all contenders on board at a unity rally. Now, I'll admit Bernie Sanders needs to be in the mix. Whether he gets something big in the administration or a commitment to an issue dear to him. I fully expect that to be a sticking point, if we ever get to the point that I'm predicting.
The biggest sticking point in a Biden-Harris ticket is Dianne Feinstein. She and Kamala hate each other and Feinstein endorsed Biden before he declared.
The common denominator to all of this is Trump. Can we all get together to defeat him and then fight each other after?
If, as I suspect, the Biden-Harris ticket has the strength to get to a majority of delegates, Sanders and Feinstein will need to bury their hatchets for the good of America.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(42,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,853 posts)And I think it would excite the country. I've already admitted I have a girl-crush on Kamala Harris. She's one tough cookie; I love that.
Biden/Harris? Oh God, yes!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,965 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,365 posts)She was in the high teens at one point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,404 posts)The number of DUers supporting Kamala may have remained constant but she hasn't made inroads with the undecideds who appear to be breaking for Biden and for Mayor Pete.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brandnewday2009
(287 posts)Biden/Harris 2020
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stonecutter357
(12,699 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
louis c
(8,652 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)suggesting that terrorists serving in prison should be able to vote in elections. It was beyond embarassing and will never go away. Imagine, how victimes of crime feel about it - I almost hate him for suggesting that. He wont be the nominee. We need to focus on taking him down early.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
underpants
(183,043 posts)Its also the smartest ticket for the election.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
defacto7
(13,485 posts)If he's the candidate I'd vote for him in a NY minute.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
My Name is Url
(43 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)that covers male, female, white, black, young, old, progressive, moderate, east coast, west coast, independent vote, etc. This is not that different from Obama/Biden ticket. If not, at the very least, Kamala is perfect for AG position. Shes already done it in the largest state.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,081 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skittles
(153,311 posts)zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
patphil
(6,258 posts)But, there are several combinations that I think could win, including Harris-Biden.
Lets see what happens in the primaries next year. Lots can happen between now and then.
Patrick Phillips
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tavernier
(12,428 posts)The Rump cant compete with Joes glow.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,404 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,077 posts)where Kucinich ended up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,404 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)And off of the main lineup.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(42,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(9,990 posts)11 Kamala
10 Pete
9 Elizabeth
8 Bernie
where will the next move be?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,077 posts)noticed, Yet!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
applegrove
(118,927 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)I think Trump & Pence would have a hard time going up against them.
There was chatter on MSNBC the other day...not the first time I've heard it...about Trump dumping Pence and running with Nikki Haley.
Then they mentioned that she has been "critical of him on occasion."
OOOPS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,019 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
louis c
(8,652 posts)...Biden is not the perfect pick, he's the best pick.
That's how Obama felt in 2008 and that's how I feel now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,965 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VOX
(22,976 posts)A vast majority of Americans are sick to death of the daily in-your-face corruption, chaos and unbridled insanity that is the Trump family and complicit Republicans. Theyve got some serious nerve to subject the country to the crazed and hurtful whims emitted from the pitifully twisted mind of such a dangerous buffoon.
Joe Biden is the complete opposite of 45, in every way. Hes time-tested; and hes pre-disasterized in that his past goof-ups are known, so there are no surprises down the road. He looks for the good in others, and yeah, his empathy has been touchy-feely at times, both with women and men. But unlike 45, I take Joe at his word that hell be more mindful of that.
I understand the longing for a younger, more progressive candidate and in normal, average circumstances, Id probably support such a person. But clearly, America has been pushed radically off course, both at home and in relations with other countries. My sense is that Biden is best qualified, both in temperament and experience, to lead a 45-damaged country in a return to normalcy, as a first step.
The one hitch I have in supporting Biden, is that, should he emerge on top, hed make a grave mistake if he didnt share the ticket with a younger, more progressive candidate, ideally a woman, whod be positioned to play a much bigger role than the usual veep, with the idea in mind that Joe may only have one term in him.
All food for thought, while its still very early in the game. The best thing is, there are several really terrific Democrats whove announced. Whatever happens, theres little chance of producing a weak candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,077 posts)We'll see what happens.. this is just the beginning.. a long and winding road ahead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thanks, cha.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I love it!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Polybius
(15,533 posts)Undecideds are a whopping 41%.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided