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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:24 PM Apr 2019

Franklin Graham rails against Buttigieg for calling himself 'gay Christian'

Evangelist Franklin Graham, an outspoken supporter of President Trump, on Wednesday slammed 2020 presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg for calling himself a "gay christian," saying that the Bible defines homosexuality as something to be repentant of.

"Buttigieg is right—God doesn’t have a political party," Grahan tweeted. "But God does have commandments, laws & standards He gives us to live by. God doesn’t change. His Word is the same yesterday, today & forever."

Graham, the son of legendary preacher Billy Graham, added in a separate tweet that "as a Christian I believe the Bible which defines homosexuality as sin, something to be repentant of, not something to be flaunted, praised or politicized.

"The Bible says marriage is between a man & a woman—not two men, not two women," Graham said, before saying in a final tweet that "the core of the Christian faith is believing and following Jesus Christ, who God sent to be the Savior of the world—to save us from sin, to save us from hell, to save us from eternal damnation."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/440500-franklin-graham-rails-against-buttigieg-for-calling-himself-gay-christian

Graham you have a lot of gall calling yourself a Christian. I may not have always agreed with your dad but one thing he wasn't was a bigot.

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Franklin Graham rails against Buttigieg for calling himself 'gay Christian' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 OP
Oh no you didn't. Iliyah Apr 2019 #1
Proud adulterer Trump is a fine Christian to Graham. Along with bearing false witness. keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #2
and yet he has no problem supporting the asshole in the WH. nt jezebel321 Apr 2019 #3
or going around killing people with his guns... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #7
Franklin Graham, 'SELF-PROCLAIMED CHRISTIAN,' can go fuck himself. pangaia Apr 2019 #4
On this, the 20th anniversary of Columbine, I'd like to reiterate my intense and utter contempt for hlthe2b Apr 2019 #5
Nothing is saving us from hell, we're living it now. Butterflylady Apr 2019 #6
gay Christian sounds better than conservative asshole Skittles Apr 2019 #8
Billy Graham was as much a sick, fake xtian as his disgusting spawn. pangaia Apr 2019 #9
I think Franklin is outdoing his dad Billy. Ligyron Apr 2019 #22
I agree, Franklin is much worse. pangaia Apr 2019 #29
his dad was a bigot. nt msongs Apr 2019 #10
Yo, Frank. There's no "Thou Shalt Not Be Gay" commandment NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #11
Graham enid602 Apr 2019 #12
"Cyrus" maxsolomon Apr 2019 #15
When ever I'm around people who begin a sentence with ''The Bible says" I'm gone. Bye! YOHABLO Apr 2019 #13
Maybe Mayor Pete leftieNanner Apr 2019 #14
Omg, wouldn't that be something. Pence would not stand a chance. badhair77 Apr 2019 #27
Especially since leftieNanner Apr 2019 #30
Jesus, the one he's supposedly following, said nothing about homosexuality; on the other hand, deurbano Apr 2019 #16
Graham needs to read the book of John C_U_L8R Apr 2019 #17
Franklin Graham, EVILangelist aka EVILangelical. cornball 24 Apr 2019 #18
Franklin blasphemes-Notice how conflates Old and New Testament delisen Apr 2019 #19
Evangelicals and Repukes Are Hypocrites of the Same Cloth--Lack the Embarrassment Gene! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #20
The Bible says a marriage is between one man and 700 women Qutzupalotl Apr 2019 #21
If Jesus were here, he'd scoff that Graham cwydro Apr 2019 #23
No. leftieNanner Apr 2019 #31
Spot on. cwydro Apr 2019 #34
Let's play the 10 commandment game, Franklin - 45 vs Mayor Pete Cosmocat Apr 2019 #24
Frankly I don't give a Graham Blue Owl Apr 2019 #25
Until Graham calls out 45 for his violations of several of the Ten Commandments, he can shut up. LonePirate Apr 2019 #26
Graham gave trump a mulligan for extramarital sex and payoff for said relations. badhair77 Apr 2019 #28
I'd had to give it to Huckabee crazytown Apr 2019 #32
Graham is a Hate Monger dlk Apr 2019 #33
 

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Oh no you didn't.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:29 PM
Apr 2019

Awaiting Pete's response - LOL

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keithbvadu2

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2. Proud adulterer Trump is a fine Christian to Graham. Along with bearing false witness.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:29 PM
Apr 2019
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jezebel321

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3. and yet he has no problem supporting the asshole in the WH. nt
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:29 PM
Apr 2019
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PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
7. or going around killing people with his guns...
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:31 PM
Apr 2019
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. Franklin Graham, 'SELF-PROCLAIMED CHRISTIAN,' can go fuck himself.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:30 PM
Apr 2019
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hlthe2b

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5. On this, the 20th anniversary of Columbine, I'd like to reiterate my intense and utter contempt for
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:31 PM
Apr 2019

Franklin Graham, whose despicable proselytizing at what was to be not only an ecumenical but multi-faith memorial in the aftermath, left me aghast. His spiel was so ugly towards those HE believes not worthy of HIS beliefs that I will NEVER forget. May he rot in a hell of his own imagining.

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Butterflylady

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6. Nothing is saving us from hell, we're living it now.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:31 PM
Apr 2019
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Skittles

(153,159 posts)
8. gay Christian sounds better than conservative asshole
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:32 PM
Apr 2019
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
9. Billy Graham was as much a sick, fake xtian as his disgusting spawn.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:32 PM
Apr 2019
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Ligyron

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22. I think Franklin is outdoing his dad Billy.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:21 PM
Apr 2019

I remember as a kid that a family friend gave us one of his dad's books, signed by the ass wipe Billy Graham himself. It was "A World Aflame" or some such shit and back then he'd also have these huge "crusades" or "revivals" that could fill entire stadiums with the easily deluded.

His ministering to Presidents reached a low point when the comforting of a seriously troubled Nixon recorded the two disparaging Jews among others. And yet he was often vilified by some of his fellow Southern Baptist nutjobs as being too "liberal".

It looks like Franklin is doing everything possible to avoid that label.

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
29. I agree, Franklin is much worse.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:12 PM
Apr 2019


One could just look at Billy's face to see he had no self-awareness, no consciousness, no open channel to anything... the tight, gritting painful tension was just frightening to see.

A self-deluded fool... I say fool because I think he actually believed the gobble-dee-gook he espoused.
Franklin, on the other hand, is a knowing snake oil salesman.
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NastyRiffraff

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11. Yo, Frank. There's no "Thou Shalt Not Be Gay" commandment
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:48 PM
Apr 2019

True, there's anti-gay stuff in the Old Testament, which your Christianity was supposed to supplant. Otherwise, Christians would have to obey dietary restrictions, avoid mixing fabrics, death penalty for picking up sticks on the Sabbath, etc. etc. etc. Apparently "Saint" Paul was anti-gay but that was probably self-loathing.

Not to mention: Be a decent human being like many atheists (and gays) are. But you, Frank, wouldn't know about that.

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enid602

(8,616 posts)
12. Graham
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:49 PM
Apr 2019

How can Graham support trump when it’s been proven he’s cheated multiple times on his many wives, and has no doubt paid for countless abortions? Didn’t God say anything about money laundering and conspiring with enemies?

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maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
15. "Cyrus"
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:52 PM
Apr 2019

Evangelicals talk about "Cyrus", the Persian King who freed the Jews from Bondage in Mesopotamia.

An ungodly man who God worked through. Except in this case Yahweh is using President Assholt to end 'Bortions and stick it to us Godless Librulz.

That is how they square the circle. Easy Peasy!

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YOHABLO

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13. When ever I'm around people who begin a sentence with ''The Bible says" I'm gone. Bye!
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:49 PM
Apr 2019
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leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
14. Maybe Mayor Pete
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:50 PM
Apr 2019

Should be the VP. Would love to watch him debate Pence! Mikey would have to shake his hand. Eeew. Queer cooties!

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badhair77

(4,217 posts)
27. Omg, wouldn't that be something. Pence would not stand a chance.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:04 PM
Apr 2019

And Mother would have to face Chasten after the debate.

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leftieNanner

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30. Especially since
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:13 PM
Apr 2019

Pete is actually a knowledgeable guy. And Pence is a stupid hypocrite.

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deurbano

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16. Jesus, the one he's supposedly following, said nothing about homosexuality; on the other hand,
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:57 PM
Apr 2019

he did condemn pretty much the entire modern GOP to hell:

Matthew 19:24
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Matthew 25:41-46
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment
: but the righteous into life eternal.

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C_U_L8R

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17. Graham needs to read the book of John
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:00 PM
Apr 2019

And shut up with disparaging his brother. Jesus wouldn’t like it.

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cornball 24

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18. Franklin Graham, EVILangelist aka EVILangelical.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:04 PM
Apr 2019
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delisen

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19. Franklin blasphemes-Notice how conflates Old and New Testament
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:12 PM
Apr 2019

in order to try to put Franklin's bigoted words in the mouth of Jesus ?

Leviticus says Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him...

Looks like if we were a theocracy we might have to stone Franklin Graham to death. Fortunately for Franklin we have a secular government and one which allows free speech-even for blasphemers.



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DoctorJoJo

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20. Evangelicals and Repukes Are Hypocrites of the Same Cloth--Lack the Embarrassment Gene!
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:16 PM
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Qutzupalotl

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21. The Bible says a marriage is between one man and 700 women
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:21 PM
Apr 2019

and 300 concubines, at least in the case of Solomon.

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cwydro

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23. If Jesus were here, he'd scoff that Graham
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:24 PM
Apr 2019

considers himself a Christian.

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leftieNanner

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31. No.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:15 PM
Apr 2019

I don't think he would scoff. I think he would be pissed off! Remember the money changers story?

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cwydro

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34. Spot on.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:53 PM
Apr 2019

I can only imagine what he’d think of the Jim Bakkers, the Falwells, etc. of this world.

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Cosmocat

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24. Let's play the 10 commandment game, Franklin - 45 vs Mayor Pete
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:24 PM
Apr 2019

Then check back in ...

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Blue Owl

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25. Frankly I don't give a Graham
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:46 PM
Apr 2019

n/t

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LonePirate

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26. Until Graham calls out 45 for his violations of several of the Ten Commandments, he can shut up.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:59 PM
Apr 2019
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badhair77

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28. Graham gave trump a mulligan for extramarital sex and payoff for said relations.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:07 PM
Apr 2019

But being gay is not being a Christian. Hmmm . . .

Who’s the biggest charlatan? Huckabee? Graham? Jr Falwell?

It’s tough competition.

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crazytown

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32. I'd had to give it to Huckabee
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:16 PM
Apr 2019

& kids

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dlk

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33. Graham is a Hate Monger
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:25 PM
Apr 2019
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