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JohnnyRingo

(18,581 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:17 PM Apr 2019

What if Biden picked Barack Obama as running mate?

Not likely, but wouldn't that set history on it's ear?

I'm not even sure it's legal, but "8 more years!" sounds good to me.

On edit:
It's been pointed out that Barack is ineligible and that makes sense.
Fair enough... How about Michelle?

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What if Biden picked Barack Obama as running mate? (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Apr 2019 OP
VP has to be eligible for Presidency. Obama is not. hlthe2b Apr 2019 #1
What if he does and then Repubs take back the House and Biden dies? LonePirate Apr 2019 #2
As noted or suggested above, he's ineligible. RobertDevereaux Apr 2019 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #4
Well hell the RWers are breaking all kind of rules . . . Iliyah Apr 2019 #5
While many of us would LOVE to see Michelle Obama in office DesertRat Apr 2019 #6
How about someone who wants to be VP? brooklynite Apr 2019 #7
I would rather see Obama appointed to the supreme court so I could watch all the repubs vsrazdem Apr 2019 #8
Don't look back splat Apr 2019 #9
Even if it was possible loyalsister Apr 2019 #10
 

hlthe2b

(101,714 posts)
1. VP has to be eligible for Presidency. Obama is not.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:18 PM
Apr 2019
The answer seems to be pretty straightforward. The 12th Amendment to the Constitution states that "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." And the 22nd Amendment, the political response to Franklin Roosevelt's impressive run of presidential victories, capped presidents to two terms. Ergo: No Clinton-Clinton or Bush-Bush. Or Biden-Obama, for that matter. Done and done, right?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.c04144d90a1a

Granted loopholes have been discussed but are very unlikely, but are based on this legal argument:

The rough outline of his argument is this: The 22nd Amendment doesn't say you can't be president for more than two terms. It says you can't be elected president twice. If a Biden-Obama ticket won (which we'll get to), and tragedy were to befall Joe Biden, Barack Obama could become president, according to the letter of the law (which we'll also get to), since he wasn't elected to the position. As such, Obama is not constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.


Here's the interesting part, though: Dorf also notes the distinction between running for the vice presidency and becoming vice president. I asked him where a challenge would arise to a Biden-Obama candidacy, and his response was that it would come up at the Electoral College -- or once Congress was asked to certify the already-voted-upon results. There's a completely valid argument to be made that the country would never elect Barack Obama as vice president, of course, in part because is seems to violate the spirit of the 22nd amendment. But if we did, it wouldn't actually become a constitutional question until after Election Day. Remember: We don't elect the president and vice president; the Electoral College does.



Most think it would not pass muster...
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LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
2. What if he does and then Repubs take back the House and Biden dies?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:19 PM
Apr 2019

Do you want a Republican President?

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RobertDevereaux

(1,841 posts)
3. As noted or suggested above, he's ineligible.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:20 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to JohnnyRingo (Original post)

 

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Well hell the RWers are breaking all kind of rules . . .
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:28 PM
Apr 2019

That said, RWers would implode, seriously.

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DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
6. While many of us would LOVE to see Michelle Obama in office
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:32 PM
Apr 2019

If you read her autobiography she makes it clear that she hates politics and it's not going to happen.

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brooklynite

(93,851 posts)
7. How about someone who wants to be VP?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:32 PM
Apr 2019

I'm not interested in fantasy speculation; I'm focusing on actually getting someone elected in the real world.

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vsrazdem

(2,176 posts)
8. I would rather see Obama appointed to the supreme court so I could watch all the repubs
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:51 PM
Apr 2019

heads spin off.

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splat

(2,284 posts)
9. Don't look back
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:02 PM
Apr 2019

The future is looming.

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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
10. Even if it was possible
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:14 PM
Apr 2019

That's yesterday's ticket.
I think Joe is a candidate who has done his part and the best way to help now would be to step aside and let people who are going to be here longer take over. I think we need fresh perspective from people who are living with what he and his peers did not/could not fix, and the consequences of policies they had a role in implementing. Escalating economic disparities, climate change, mass incarceration, massive student loan debt, and economic/global relationship problems rooted in the most recent wars are all results of federal policies which were enacted during the time he spent in government.
I really think those problems need a fresh perspective.
I also want a president who is likely to live a long while beyond their presidencies to see where their decisions lead.

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