Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBiden is not only a strong primary candidate -- he's the anti-Trump spokesman we need.
He has the national and international stature, after being a highly regarded vice president for 8 years after many years in the Senate, to stand up to Trump, and to have his criticism of Trump taken seriously, here and abroad.
I believe this is one reason Trump is reportedly most worried about him -- besides the fact that Biden's leading in most of the polls.
His campaign will give Biden a platform to tell the American people what he thinks of Trump, and why, on a daily basis.
I'm looking forward to it.
I don't think Trump is...and that might help explain his hysterical over-tweeting as Biden gets closer to launching his campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,241 posts)and it will probably help him win more votes than he loses. at worst there will be no change .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)That's not a smart approach in a debate, however.
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-would-beat-trump-fist-fight-and-2020-election-poll-suggests-862642
Biden said that if he and Trump were still in high school, he would take Trump behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.
Trump the following day responded by tweeting, Crazy Joe Biden is trying to act like a tough guy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Biden could say the same thing because he really was, although I have no doubt Biden could do it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,893 posts)appreciate Biden joining the fight for our Democracy!.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SunSeeker
(51,523 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marlakay
(11,432 posts)Going to be hard to get youth vote if not.
I love Joe except that issue. I dont partake but my hubby and family members do so I want it legal. Seems to help a lot of people and there should be no jail time.
Schedule 1 is insane.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NNadir
(33,482 posts)Having come of age in the 1970's, I've evolved on pot.
I think it's really, really, really, really bad for one's intellect and I oppose legalization. I don't believe in incarcerating users, but every time I'm in a place where it's legally sold, I'm depressed as hell.
The first such place that I ever saw was Amsterdam. One could see that it was once a beautiful city. But with with barely clothed young women displayed in the windows of storefronts like merchandise - only God knows the horror - and the listless people walking the streets, well, I have no use for drugs and no use for legal prostitution.
None.
Some things are best left restrained.
It is a mistake to think that young people want to get wasted legally. The many fine young people I know from my sons are more interested in trying to save the world, not in getting high. My oldest son is 24, and believe me, he knows a waste case when he sees one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marlakay
(11,432 posts)I was pleased this last weekend, I saw my grandson 22 at Easter brunch, he doesnt drink or do drugs and isnt religious just told me he wants to be healthy. Eating good too. I was proud of him for that.
He isnt political though and not interested in college, my daughter has him working where she is manager or who knows, still playing a lot of computer games.
Mom told me she is for Biden. Younger daughter Beto. Other daughter says she hates it all now and wont vote, I think that is because she used to vote dem and new boyfriend is on the right but doesnt vote. I wish she would break up but you know....kids!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skittles
(153,122 posts)yes INDEED
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(153,122 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
demmiblue
(36,824 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)From what I have seen pot just makes you lazy.
I know many use it but thank goodness my family thinks it is a drug. And alcohol use is maybe a drink or beer with friends.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Given that weed is legal in Colorado. It works, and there are no side effects.
I would much rather my daughters partake of weed than alcohol. If you use it responsibly, it is certainly healthier than booze.
I've seen what drinking can do to an individual's life. IMHO, it is far, far worse than weed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)My Grandson could care less about pot! He is concerned about global warming, though. Just like me. And getting his Education.
I do not believe the average young person bent on getting an Education for their future would be fretting about a drug.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,508 posts)not smoke at all. Sure they did as kids but now they work and care way more about issues like healthcare and jobs. Legalization will and has come at the state level. The idea that you need weed to get the youth vote is insulting sort of like the idea that all POC care about voting rights for people in prison... that it is a 'Black' issue ( like all incarcerated folks are black). The POC I know are worried about jobs, healthcare and their kids just like (shocking) White people. The pot issue is not a voting issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)That's not to say the others are not valiant and eloquent, maybe even more eloquent, but Joe is the one with the best chances.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)Why are you so sure no one in 2020 except Biden could beat Trump, after he lost the House in 2018?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Trump is a snake but he's also an entertainer and that's a winning combo. Joe has gravitas and experience, he's a living-room companion to the nation, but he also has a sense of humor. As EveHammond noted above he has wide appeal across party lines. So in a nutshell he's the one who can do it if anyone can.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-would-beat-trump-fist-fight-and-2020-election-poll-suggests-862642
Biden said that if he and Trump were still in high school, he would take Trump behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.
Trump the following day responded by tweeting, Crazy Joe Biden is trying to act like a tough guy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Basically Biden out-crazied the crazy loud-mouth and called his bluff. No, it's not appropriate form of political discourse. But Trump is the one who had to admit it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)Biden wouldn't be any more effective at that than Rubio was.
Too bad Pelosi's not running, because she's the one who most seems to put him off balance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
forgotmylogin
(7,521 posts)It's the Electoral College that screwed her out of that win as I'm sure you're aware.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Peacetrain
(22,872 posts)His experience, background, connections with leaders all over the world.. this is Bidens moment
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)OMG. He was more direct than any Dem so far.
I believe he might affect the election.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
forgotmylogin
(7,521 posts)And I mean that in the good sense - "classic" old-school Republican. I doubt he can wrestle the primary from McDonald, but if not, perhaps he will run as an independent spoiler.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Worked with Hillary on Watergate. He is one sensible Republican. Said he would have members of both parties in his cabinet, same as he did as Governor.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,893 posts)campaign.. Thank You, highplains!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
My Name is Url
(43 posts)The political waters are perfect for you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pachamama
(16,884 posts)He will be good for so much and especially the debate process and taking on Trump.
And I believe the winning ticket is Harris/Biden or Biden/Harris....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
quakerboy
(13,917 posts)to be out as anti trump spokespersons.
Along with all of us out to boost that message.
Honestly, The more I see our candidates coming on board to boost eachother, the happier I will be. And the ones that go hard on the infighting will be the ones I do my best to convince others to stay away from.
Trump must go, and I don't think the Republican senate will allow that, no matter what. so we have to win this election, and that means every one of these candidates and every one of their supporters need to start finding our common grounds, the things that make us strong together.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)Imagine a debate where Trump starts menacingly circling Biden like he did Hillary?
Biden will tell him to go stand in one place and wait for his turn.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,863 posts)I wish that everyone here could disagree with their choices without ripping any of our candidates to shreds.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)I don't he will emerge from the debates with a lot of support
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)There will be no surprises at the debates, especially if he manages to put his foot in his mouth at some point. After a whole series of accidental anatomical contortions during the 2008 campaign, an exasperated and fed-up Senator Obama reportedly asked his advisers, "How many times is Biden going to say something stupid?"
Of course, Russia and the right, and hostiles on the left, will leap to snow the nation with the worst possible interpretations. And of course wishful thinkers will be completely unable to understand why others don't also believe what they were eager to.
It'll be because people know Biden and like him for what he is, especially older generations who vote at higher rates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)It's going to be about policies and a mass movement for very abrupt and intense change. The rules of the past are going out the window
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,921 posts)plus some independents.
See Nate Silver's latest analysis of the polls and what he says about Sanders:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287100764
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)Vs those who don't. The party needs to realize that.
Climate change is coming. Scientists say we have ten years to implement very radical changes or humanity is doomed. Radical change has to happen.
Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...
https://www.imatteryouth.org/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NNadir
(33,482 posts)Bernie Sanders represents a State that once was in the position of being the only State in the Union that did not generate electricity with dangerous fossil fuels or depend on imported electricity from dangerous fossil fuels.
This is no longer true. Sanders applauded this outcome.
http://yesvy.blogspot.com/2013/08/vermont-is-part-of-world-guest-post-by.html#.XMpDxuhKiM8
As a scientist, I find Sanders opinions on energy and the environment contrary to any reasonable approach to environmental sustainability, since it appears that he actually doesn't know any science.
I'm a scientist, and I've studied energy for 30 years in the primary scientific literature. I assure you that in the awful case where Sanders becomes the Democratic nominee and President, the situation will get far worse, not better.
I will vote "not Trump" in the general election, and happily that will not involve voting for Sanders, since he will not win the Democratic nomination and shouldn't win the nomination. Happily there are at least 19 Democratic Candidates who are far superior, any one of whom I could happily support enthusiastically.
Sanders is the only one I would grudgingly support, and then only in the general election, grudgingly again, because I am a scientist.
But again...he won't win, and the extent to which he and his supporters retreat into their Achilles tents to weep and wail will not serve to help.
To attach Sanders to any practical consideration of climate change is purely absurd, to the point of laughable, because what he proposes has not worked, is not working, and will not work. This has been shown by experiment. The world just sank two trillion dollars into solar and wind in the last ten years alone, with the result that the degradation of the atmosphere from the accumulation of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide is accelerating at the fastest rate ever observed.
Ten years ago, the week ending April 26, 2009, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere was 390.2 ppm. The latest such data was 413.77 at Mauna Loa, the highest level ever recorded.
We don't need a tired old man to tell us all about how wonderful solar and wind are. I say this as a tired old man myself, but not one endlessly repeating tired old ideas, but one whose exhaustion comes from having engaged in serious study of the issue.
Oh, and by the way. There's nothing to say about how we have "just" "ten years." Climate change is now. It's happening right now. It's happening because baby boomers, of which I am an example myself, like Sanders, were clueless about energy and the environment.
Now, Joe Biden is an older man even than I am, but he worked with Barack Obama, whose energy policies, particularly when Steven Chu was Secretary of Energy, were a step in the right direction, not perfect, but the best of any modern President.
I would rank Biden among my top 5 favorites, not because of his age, but because he thinks young and because he ably served the best President of my long lifetime.
I lay blame for the state of affairs with respect to climate squarely at the feet of people who hyped solar and wind energy. This is all Sanders has to say, and it's not worth the gasoline in a lawn mower.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden