'Bernie or Bust' Creates Dilemma for Democrats

[My Name is Url]

Bloomberg Politics
Published on 19 Apr 2019

Please tell me Bloomberg is lying about the date! PLEASE tell me this is actually from 3 years ago!

[oldsoftie]

1. Notice the people holding pictures putting a Robin Hood hat on Sanders.

If this would become the message in a general election, say hello to 4 more years of dipshit.

[SFnomad]

2. Welcome to DU. Nothing like stirring shit with your first post, eh?

[Renew Deal]

6. "Back"

[SFnomad]

7. Well yeah, that would be my guess. I'm sure it won't last long n/t

[My Name is Url]

8. I didn't create the report; Bloomberg News did

And, IF the Bernie or Bust types are back, they're the shit-stirrers you ought to be worried about. I will be unhesitatingly voting for whomever the party nominates, because the #! Priority is booting Trump!

[doompatrol39]

3. Why do people fixate on this?

I knew a few "Bernie or Bust" people. Those folks were never, ever going to vote for the Democratic Nominee no matter what if it was not Bernie. So it's not in any way shape or form "lost votes" or whatever you want to call them, any more than the people who say they'll vote for Schulz if someone too liberal is the Democratic nominee.

It's like fixating on the people who said they would vote for Democrats if we nominated McCain. So what? We're not going to so why would we even spend a minute of our time worrying about those folks?

The vast majority of Bernie supporters are going to vote for the Democratic nominee, end of story.

So why don't we focus more of our energy discussing ideas and policies and then when we settle on our nominee making sure we get as many people to the polls as possible instead of fixating on these people whose votes we never had in the first place and will never get.

[corbettkroehler]

25. I'm 100% Sanders And Will Vote For The Democratic Nominee

I am convinced that Sanders will secure the nomination but you can take it to the bank that, should I be wrong, the Democratic nominee would have my vote - no matter what.

[WeekiWater]

4. We cannot be concerned about the "Bernie or Bust" group.

They are insignificant to our cause and should play no role. In my opinion, the use of them to cause fear among Democrats is one of Sanders greatest accomplishments. Truly a smart move on his part in 2016. He used them to gain leverage where there was truly no leverage to gain. Sander used his supporters as a way to gain power at the convention. He is a career politician and played it perfectly. The party leadership should have seen it for what it was and not given him the power they did. I hope they don't do it again. They got played by a fear tactic.

Why do I say it like that? They are called Bernie or Bust for a reason. It didn't matter what happened when formulating the platform. The same number were going to vote for Clinton that did. The same number of Sanders supporter were going to vote for Trump, Stein, or stay home as they did. Those blocks had already made their decision. It was a fear play by Sanders and he did it well. The fact that it worked on some now makes them feel more powerful than they are or ever should have been.

Fuck Bernie or Bust. Fuck the concept of PUMA's. They are LIV's that do not have progress for the greater good as their motives. They are selfish assholes.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be highlighted as a campaign tool. Using them to show how one campaign will have zero coattails and will fail to build any meaningful coalition. But do not fear them. They are weak.

[rzemanfl]

10. What is PUMA? What is LIV? Please forgive my ignorance.

Urban Dictionary was no help.

[WeekiWater]

12. A puma is a cat.

LIV is Low Information Voter

[Shrek]

18. PUMA arose from the 2008 primary

https://newrepublic.com/article/121584/hillary-clintons-pumas-once-die-hard-supporters-arent-sold-2016

[rzemanfl]

19. Thank you very much. It was lurking in the back of my mind refusing to come out.

However, I can recall the names of our neighbors in 1953.

[Power 2 the People]

20. +1

[rzemanfl]

5. Socks with stars are a bad fashion choice. n/t

[BlueFlorida]

9. Took me a while to get what you were saying

but then ... revelation!

[rzemanfl]

11. If the sock fits. n/t

[Decoy of Fenris]

13. Pft. My Captain America socks say otherwise. Good day, sir!

[rzemanfl]

14. Yes, but your socks have character. n/t

[Decoy of Fenris]

15. I'm sorely tempted to make an account named "Captain America" now. n/t

[rzemanfl]

16. I used to know what Decoy of Fenris meant (looked it up) but my old brain

forgot. I will look again.

[Decoy of Fenris]

17. Put simply, my old army name for a game I played.

Fenris was the home planet, the army was the D'Koi (I named it when I was like, 12? 13?), so they were the D'koi of Fenris. It stuck as a tag in other forums, so when I re-signed here, Decoy it was. Better than my current gamer ID, "Legendary". There's a story behind that one as well, but the TL;DR is that someone named me that and it stuck.

[comradebillyboy]

21. I don't see a dilemma. I reject the idea that we must cater to

any kind of group that insists that Democrats must bend the knee to their candidate or they will vote for Trump.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

22. Are there still people with that mindset?

Most of us don't want four more years of the dotard.

[oasis]

23. If they can deal with 4 more years of Trump. Have at it.

at least they'll have each other to whine about it.

[ehrnst]

24. If it's any comfort, they don't have it together enough to even have a website with their

name.

http://bernieorbust.com
http://bernieorbust2020.com
http://bernieorbust.org/
http://bernieorbust2020.org/

[liberalnarb]

26. Sounds like a dilemma Bloomberg wants to manufacture.

[Me.]

27. So Then They Weren't Part Of The Millions Of More Votes

HRC rec'd over Individual 1? Perhaps they voted for Stein. LOts of worrying being urged these days.