Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders gets support for 'Medicare for All' proposal from Fox News audience
Bernie is breaking through the bubble! Fox is not happy.
[link:https://www.yahoo.com/news/bernie-sanders-gets-support-for-medicare-for-all-proposal-from-fox-news-audience-000818996.html|]
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive2020
(713 posts)He has a lot of guts to go into the lions den and confront the Fox talking heads on their own ground. More power to him! Great that the audience is for Medicare For All. We progressives ARE the majority. Bernie is right that most Americans want these sort of policies. These values ARE mainstream.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive2020
(713 posts)Glad that you started this Thread!
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VarryOn
(2,343 posts)I thought he did pretty well. While I'm not close to making him my candidate of choice, I did come away with a more favorable impression than before the townhall started.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Let's give credit where credit is due... to Bernie!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive2020
(713 posts)Bernie is a smart campaigner. Going on Fox and beating them on their own ground is a brilliant move. I was just on Twitter. He is getting a lot of social media attention for this. He is smart, principled, and a cagey campaigner. I think he would serve a beat-down to Trump in a debate- Because Bernie speaks the truth, all of the time, whereas Trump wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the ass...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive2020
(713 posts)Win or Lose, Bernie has changed the national conversation since his run for 2016. There would be no AOC or New Progressive Movement without our elder statesman Bernie. He has taken issues that naysayers scoffed at and made them mainstream. Medicare For All, Free Tuition, $15 Minimum Wage, on and on, all Progressive Positions made mainstream by Bernie. More power to Bernie Sanders!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Yet, so many were quick to criticize him for that... except, of course, when their favorite candidate, once again, is forced to follow Bernie's lead... then, no doubt, they'll see it as "brilliant"!!
Bernie will not be denied this go round... I like the way he's pulling out all the stops early in the contest and getting most of the good press!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)These are THE "I've got mine and others should take care of themselves" folk. We've got too many on the left also, but they're nothing compared to the ones who watch Fox.
A socialist's plot that REQUIRES 160 million Americans to lose insurance through the workplace because it's TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM by an autocratic government fiat isn't going to go over well. As soon as Fox explains it to them.
Now, Medicare for America, which allows those who want to go on an expanded Medicare to do so and those who want to remain with the coverage that they don't want to give up to keep that, is doable. It's also democratic and as respectful of the will of the people as Sanders' extreme plan is not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)He got the audience on his side!
This is how you win a national election!
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)You win a national election by winning over the majority of voters. Getting applause from a bunch of your supporters isn't an indication of how one fares with the rest of the electorate.
Link to tweet
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=72826
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)Fox's sole reason for existing is to ensure Trump's re-election - fact.
What better way than to give Bernie a few minutes of faux support in order to sway public opinion so that he can win the primaries, knowing that he will lose in the battleground states, thus giving Trump the ultimate victory.
As evidenced by all the posts in this thread, Bernie is miraculously now set to win the general election because the plants at the Fox Town Hall gave a cheer. Let's not be so gullible, shall we?
I continue to take anything that comes out of Fox News as fake - always have, always will...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)So you are saying that Fox News staged this? Sounds mildly paranoid and delusional. These people are too dumb to organize a tea party, much less some sort of complicated conspiracy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)No wonder they're not happy!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)See post 9
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Progressive2020
(713 posts)I would like some of it. Watch the video. Bernie gets major applause, over and over, from an audience at an event put on by Fox News! Bernie's Progressive Positions are Mainstream and Populist.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doodley
(9,048 posts)Republicans communicate by lying, playing on people's fears and prejudices, and yelling the loudest. We need to find ways to break through that to communicate that our policies and values are in their best interest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)Looks like they're out early for 2020.
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lancero
(3,002 posts)You just seen 'it backfired' and immedietely ran off taking that as 'yeah, the audience hated it'... The poll certainly did backfire for someone, but given the amount of hands and cheers going off in favor of MFA it wasn't on Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)for the purpose of giving a false sense of support to Bernie in order to influence public opinion, thereby making him the Democratic nominee and ultimately giving Trump the win in the battleground states. They are the masters of manipulation and they had lots of time to plot and prepare for this.
There is no way that Brett Baier would have asked a question that he did not already know the answer to. Everything that Fox hosts have ever done has been strategize and scripted and this is no different. The set-up is glaringly obvious to me.
I will never subscribe to Fox News propaganda - but that's just me...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)The people at Fox are too stupid to plan some sort of covert scheme to get Bernie the nomination. These are the people who talked about immigrants being from "Three Mexican Countries". The simpler explanation tends to be the true explanation (Occam's Razor)- Fox got duped.
Most people want Medicare For All, including many working class people who might be conservative in other ways. I think Bernie could win by securing the progressive vote and adding to it the white working class voters who voted for Trump last time around and now have buyer's remorse.
Bernie's policies appeal to a wide spectrum of people. Progressive now is in many ways mainstream. Even some Fox viewers might agree with that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)one of the town hall participants. Fox News packed the audience with friendly supporters to sway public opinion into believing that "Bernie's policies appeal to a wide spectrum of people" - your exact words.
It was obviously staged, as I had always believed...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)On edit - the poster is confused.
The audience was enthusiastic about switching to Medicare for all from their plan at work when Baier asked the question. It was a great moment. Im guessing Bret received a demerit from Fox leadership for his fumble.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)I'm not surprised that a viewer of Faux News would stare truth in the face and conclude that the audience's overwhelming response to Medicare For All means that the scenario backfired on Sanders.
What I'd like to see is some of the Sanders haters who are Democrats and love to pick every little nit about his campaign here on DU give the man some credit. April 15, 2019 was a BIG DAY for Bernie!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)suspicious?
This is seriously beyond the pale.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(111,988 posts)They packed the crowd with Bernie supporters such that it became a Bernie rally rather than a town hall with a mixed audience.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)as a Christian missionary trying to get converts in Mecca.
An impossible task and a waste of time. However, good for headlines and media coverage.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(111,988 posts)Nassar said he voted for Sanders in the 2016 primary, and was open-minded coming into Monday nights event. He estimated about 70 percent of the audience was supportive of Sanders.
https://www.pennlive.com/politics/2019/04/bernie-sanders-faces-lively-audience-in-bethlehem-town-hall.html
There was also a live blog on PennLive that noted that the audience was mostly Sanders supporters. It definitely was not a typical "Fox News audience."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)Bernie appeals to all Americans,even Fox News viewers. Even though Fox organized and orchestrated the proceedings, Mr. Nassar felt that when the show was over, 70% of the people in the room supported Bernie Sanders. That's great news for Democrats!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(111,988 posts)Bernie didn't convince anybody of anything new. Nice attempt to spin it though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(111,988 posts)It means that the audience already had their minds made up and Bernie didn't convince many new people to agree with him. It shows that the only people that would take the time to see Bernie were his hard core supporters rather than typical Fox News viewers. That isn't much of an accomplishment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And the house was packed with fans, so there was no persuading going on?
I guess that's one way to attempt to convince people that you're still right when you've been shown to be wrong.
Does that work for you other places?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Should be a stand alone thread.
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BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)The ratings came from Democrats watching.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Link to tweet
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=72826
And I doubt that all those watching were FoxNews viewers...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden