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thegoose

(3,115 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:43 PM Apr 2020

The rapist shit has begun in earnest

On Facebook, "friends" of friends are frantically accusing Joe of being a rapist. There's no fucking proof. I'm arguing with them and they keep coming back with bullshit but I swear they're fucking bots. When I demand proof, they say "Oh, a woman doesn't have to give proof because she's traumatized..."

Now don't get me wrong. I normally agree, but these seem like Bots to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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The rapist shit has begun in earnest (Original Post) thegoose Apr 2020 OP
Sounds like it to me too. elleng Apr 2020 #1
Obviously a projection by Trump. dem4decades Apr 2020 #2
My brother-in-law posts that crap on social media. :( femmedem Apr 2020 #3
Therapist? BlueIdaho Apr 2020 #4
Nyuk! thegoose Apr 2020 #6
I read this in the voice of Sean Connery mikelgb Apr 2020 #7
Ignore it. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #5
Ignore the Noise That Will Be Amplfied By Bots Indykatie Apr 2020 #8
Russian and right wing trolls are out like crazy. liberalmuse Apr 2020 #9
Post removed Post removed Apr 2020 #10
So just ask him about Trump's rapes. scarletlib Apr 2020 #11
That's my experience as well. I will just report them. nt Blasphemer Apr 2020 #12
So, people/members with actual concerns that have been here for decades Blue_Adept Apr 2020 #19
Ask them why they're OK with Assange or Keith Ellison. BlueLucy Apr 2020 #13
Also the dementia one treestar Apr 2020 #14
Or "I Believe Women" AnnieBW Apr 2020 #15
History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce. ucrdem Apr 2020 #16
Democrats, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue_Adept Apr 2020 #18
Of course. There're always market for political hate and lies. Hortensis Apr 2020 #20
Swiftboating 2020 style. lpbk2713 Apr 2020 #21
I had a discussion with someone about this today Sapient Donkey Apr 2020 #22
 

elleng

(130,153 posts)
1. Sounds like it to me too.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:48 PM
Apr 2020

I never respond, as some are 'friends' of friends, but pretty damned sickening.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dem4decades

(11,244 posts)
2. Obviously a projection by Trump.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:49 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

femmedem

(8,188 posts)
3. My brother-in-law posts that crap on social media. :(
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:57 PM
Apr 2020

He's definitely not a bot, but he's vulnerable to them. He thinks WaPo, NYTImes and Snopes are unreliable, but he'll post the most absurd, unsourced memes and believe them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
4. Therapist?
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:58 PM
Apr 2020

No I’m pretty sure he’s never been a therapist...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mikelgb

(6,021 posts)
7. I read this in the voice of Sean Connery
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:18 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
5. Ignore it.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:59 PM
Apr 2020

There's no convincing some people and if you respond, it just encourages them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indykatie

(3,691 posts)
8. Ignore the Noise That Will Be Amplfied By Bots
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:22 PM
Apr 2020

This accusation is seen as baseless by those that have bothered to vet the accuser's story. Her being an active Putin fan was all I needed to know to write her off. Most Dems expected a dirty trick or 2 and are not surprised.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

liberalmuse

(18,670 posts)
9. Russian and right wing trolls are out like crazy.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:22 PM
Apr 2020

This isn't all Bernie supporters, and I'd be surprised if there were more than a minority of Bernie supporters behind the smears. They are going after Joe and Jill Biden en force on Twitter, Reddit, etc. Trump is terrified and so are the dictators and oligarchs like Putin, Xi, MBS and the Kochs along with Trumps billionaire beneficiaries. This is going to continue because if Biden wins, they are all fucked.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to thegoose (Original post)

 

scarletlib

(3,400 posts)
11. So just ask him about Trump's rapes.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:29 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:31 PM - Edit history (1)

Let’s see: Ivana Trump, E Jean Carroll, an anonymous (for her protection) 13 year old at a Jeffrey Epstein “party” plus 20+ other women who have accused him of molesting them.

Does this person support Trump? If so how do they excuse his behavior?

If this person is a Democrat does he think this justifies not voting for Biden resulting in Trump’s re-election?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
12. That's my experience as well. I will just report them. nt
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:30 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_Adept

(6,384 posts)
19. So, people/members with actual concerns that have been here for decades
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 06:55 AM
Apr 2020

will get reported? Likely banned? Ah, I'll be glad when election season is over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
13. Ask them why they're OK with Assange or Keith Ellison.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:38 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. Also the dementia one
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:48 PM
Apr 2020

Flat out statements that Biden has dementia. Usually in the guise of Bernie supporter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AnnieBW

(10,350 posts)
15. Or "I Believe Women"
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 12:02 AM
Apr 2020

As if implying that a woman doesn't believe another woman. I just responded "So do I, except when they're paid by Fox News." I never got a response.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
16. History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 12:07 AM
Apr 2020

Very bad farce in this case.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
17. Democrats, Sir
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 12:13 AM
Apr 2020

Need to learn how to make the following statement in response to charges of this sort, from whatever quarter:

"Fuck you! Nobody fucking cares! God knows I don't! Stuff it up your fucking pie-hole and shut the fuck up! I do not fucking care! I don't fucking care what you say! I don't give a rancid shit what you think! Go ahead, motherfucker! Do it! Or back your ass back down in your seat and change your damn diaper! Asshole..."

That is how the game is played now, and we had better learn it, quick and well.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to thegoose (Original post)

 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Of course. There're always market for political hate and lies.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 09:02 AM
Apr 2020

Expected, like bullets on a battlefield.

Kick purveyors and sponge-heads to the side when they show up, but don't sweat it. The attempts to brand Biden as a child molester and sexual predator failed to spread significantly into the broad range of the electorate who would conceivably vote for Biden, including moderate conservatives.

That's the big advantage of nominating someone the nation likes and feels we know. Biden is armored.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lpbk2713

(42,696 posts)
21. Swiftboating 2020 style.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 09:37 AM
Apr 2020


It couldn't be any more transparent.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
22. I had a discussion with someone about this today
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 04:39 PM
Apr 2020

She said something about Biden being a rapist. I admit I haven't really been following things as much as I would like these past few weeks, so I asked for some details as to what is being claimed and what sort of evidence has been presented. She immediately got defensive and called me a rape apologist. At this point I wasn't defending anyone, but rather just asking for information. The conversation stopped a little later when I asked if it was possible for Biden to not be guilty and if that is the case, then what steps would he have to take to prove he was innocent.

It seems like people change their thoughts on how these difficult situations should be dealt with depending on if the accused is someone they support or don't support. I don't pretend to know the answer to how to deal with this, but it's really obvious to me when the primary motivation is political rather than an attempt to seek justice. That's whether it's flat out denying all accusations or accepting them without question just because it fits certain political narrative.

I am not a huge fan of Biden's either. In fact, Biden is one of the last choices I had. I would have rather seen Mayor Pete or Warren or Booker or Harris up there. This isn't a fan boi knee-jerk defense of "my guy"... I mean, he is my guy now. I mean, you know, since he isn't Trump. Anyway.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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