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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:19 PM Apr 2020

Okay I will admit I wanted Bernie to endorse Joe.

But he probably did the best he could with the moment. But honest to GOD I hope the Grays of the world and the rest of his staff clean up their act. Breathing deeply..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Okay I will admit I wanted Bernie to endorse Joe. (Original Post) Peacetrain Apr 2020 OP
The pouting and wailing is all over FB Freddie Apr 2020 #1
Probably a wise move! Peacetrain Apr 2020 #2
It is treestar Apr 2020 #8
Maybe he will in a future news cycle. He and his followers may need some FailureToCommunicate Apr 2020 #3
Bernie wasn't going to endorse Joe in this universe. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #4
Save it until the convention underpants Apr 2020 #5
Featuring Him At Any Stage Of The Convention, Sir, Would Be a Bad Mistake The Magistrate Apr 2020 #7
I thought he could bring in the flock underpants Apr 2020 #9
As We Speak, Sir, They Are Busy Denouncing Him As A Sell-Out The Magistrate Apr 2020 #10
Why must we keep obsessing on the hardest core rejectionists? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2020 #13
I Agree Debating Sanders Is Time Poorly Spent, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #14
There is no risk of forfeiting our friendship, nor will there ever be Tom Rinaldo Apr 2020 #15
I Appreciate That, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #19
And I too was delighted to find that you had re emerged here Tom Rinaldo Apr 2020 #21
Stages of Grief n/t underpants Apr 2020 #16
I want him to do what will advance the policies he espouses. Mister Ed Apr 2020 #6
:) Cut him a break. He can't endorse when he's only SUSPENDED Hortensis Apr 2020 #11
That doesn't make sense democrattotheend Apr 2020 #18
Okay. Hopefully he'll suspend his attack dogs too, Hortensis Apr 2020 #20
I'm fine with him not endorsing. I am more curious to see if Warren does so now.... nt Blasphemer Apr 2020 #12
He suspended so the fundraising can begin...we have a better coalition this year. So I think, we can Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #17
As of about an hour ago she didn't. Still pushing the Sanders line on Twitter. George II Apr 2020 #22
 

Freddie

(9,232 posts)
1. The pouting and wailing is all over FB
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:23 PM
Apr 2020

I’m friends with a lot of my kids’ friends. Think I’ll
stay off for a while.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
2. Probably a wise move!
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:26 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. It is
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:45 PM
Apr 2020

I saw a claim that exit polls did not match the results!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FailureToCommunicate

(13,989 posts)
3. Maybe he will in a future news cycle. He and his followers may need some
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:30 PM
Apr 2020

time to mourn before moving on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
4. Bernie wasn't going to endorse Joe in this universe.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:30 PM
Apr 2020

The best we could have expected from him is that he stopped campaigning, and he's not even doing that; he's still trying to accrue convention delegates. It will be 2016 all over again, I'm afraid, with the bros hooting and booing from the galleries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underpants

(182,279 posts)
5. Save it until the convention
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:34 PM
Apr 2020

In what ever form there is a convention

Day 1 Bernie
Day 3 Obama

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
7. Featuring Him At Any Stage Of The Convention, Sir, Would Be a Bad Mistake
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:39 PM
Apr 2020

It would be best, in fact, not to use him even as a secondary campaign surrogate.

He has no influence over his most devoted followers, and the rest will come over of themselves.

He actively repels the middle of the road voters, especially suburban women, who have grown disgusted enough with the cheap thug Trum to be open to changing their habits, and voting for a Democrat.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underpants

(182,279 posts)
9. I thought he could bring in the flock
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:01 PM
Apr 2020

But you make good points.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
10. As We Speak, Sir, They Are Busy Denouncing Him As A Sell-Out
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:08 PM
Apr 2020

I do not do Twitter myself, but the wife does, and reports her feed full of comments to the effect that 'I'll be damned if I'll vote for Biden no matter what 'Bernie' says or does.' Doubtless a portion are bots and trolls, but the situation is what it is. Inflame people past a certain point, they move outside of your directing control. Yet again, a 'revolution' is eating its own. Sanders' real influence, though he does not seem to realize it, is dwindling by the hour, and by August will be small as the man himself.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
13. Why must we keep obsessing on the hardest core rejectionists?
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:18 PM
Apr 2020

The vast majority of Bernie's actual supporters in 2026 voted for Hillary, and a higher percentage of them will end up voting for Biden in 2020.

The voices you speak of exist. They do not deserve the flattery of our attention.

I will not further debate Bernie Sanders with you because it seems to me not to be a fruitful use of my time. Others may if they so choose. I will focus instead on actual issues, and on the steps that can be taken by us all to help ensure that Joe Biden becomes our next President. Belittling Bernie Sanders, and whatever degree of influence he retains, seems to me not to be among the latter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
14. I Agree Debating Sanders Is Time Poorly Spent, Sir
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:26 PM
Apr 2020

There is nothing much to debate about the man, or the character of a good portion of his followers. But the clearer his failure is made, the less harm he and his most fanatic followers can do. I do not view taking note of a destructive element as flattering it, or feeding it, or any such thing. I view it the way I used to view a fellow with a knife back in my 'adventurous youth' --- something to be aware of, and alert to any sudden moves by. If this position forfeits your friendship, I will regret that, but I have let go of people I felt affection for before.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
15. There is no risk of forfeiting our friendship, nor will there ever be
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:32 PM
Apr 2020

Even with those with whom I often strongly disagree, and you are far from being among those, I continue to hold them in honor when their motives are sincere and their desire for the well being of our people remains paramount. Everything else is secondary at most. We continue as close allies in this struggle for greater justice for all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
19. I Appreciate That, Sir
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:47 PM
Apr 2020

Thank you. At worst you are an honorable opponent, at at best a good friend. I was glad to see you still here when I followed a link to the site shortly before I decided to see if my account still worked.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
21. And I too was delighted to find that you had re emerged here
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:53 PM
Apr 2020

A sentiment that has not wavered over any of the intervening posts. When we momentarily slip into opposing roles, we do so as sparring partners at most. And sparring partners are mutually beneficial.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mister Ed

(5,896 posts)
6. I want him to do what will advance the policies he espouses.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:37 PM
Apr 2020

And I had reached the point where it seemed to me that his 2020 presidential campaign was potentially setting back his policies for years, if not a lifetime.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. :) Cut him a break. He can't endorse when he's only SUSPENDED
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:10 PM
Apr 2020

his campaign. Who knows, perhaps something will happen to take out our nominee this time, creating a need for him to step forward -- and try to keep us from replacing Biden with one of our liberal Democratic candidates who share his and Democratic Party's liberal values and goals.

We can always hope for the best, but it would be foolish to be surprised if these leopards don't change their spots. Even after he finally endorsed our nominee last time, his camp's intensive and vicious social media campaign against her continued right up to election day, and long after -- following Sanders' instructions while he made a few tepid public appearances in a pose of support.

https://heavy.com/news/2016/09/why-did-jane-sanders-tweet-retweet-bernie-sanders-do-not-to-listen-to-me-video-clinton-endorsement-watch-youtube/

Btw, Russia and other nations are still using this election in their wars against us, Russia reportedly still considers Sanders their asset, and we'll be seeing more of all their work as this giant battle for national and planetary power continues.

CBS today: Russia-connected group pushed fake documents aimed at political flashpoints, researchers say: The report comes as election security experts remain on alert for efforts to manipulate the 2020 election from Russia and many other countries and nonstate actors.


None of these newly reported faked documents targeting Democrats involved Biden or Sanders.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
18. That doesn't make sense
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:38 PM
Apr 2020

Suspending is a technical term, and it's how most candidates end their campaign. I'm almost positive Warren also suspended, and I think some of the others did as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Okay. Hopefully he'll suspend his attack dogs too,
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:47 PM
Apr 2020

along with the rest of the staffers he'll not be needing any more. Those are particularly expensive, and it would be a positive action to back up his words.

Look, I'm a believer in believing people when they show me what they are -- the first time and the 500th. When he shows me he's changed, I won't forgive or forget, too much lives on as unforgiveable and should never be forgotten, but I'll be genuinely glad he's on our side against the Republicans and foreign enemies and happy to ally with him. Btw, maybe he should write them a letter of intent and publish it on line and as an op ed in the NYT for the entire nation to see.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
12. I'm fine with him not endorsing. I am more curious to see if Warren does so now.... nt
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:17 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
17. He suspended so the fundraising can begin...we have a better coalition this year. So I think, we can
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:37 PM
Apr 2020

win without some Sanders' supporters this time if we have to. If getting rid of Trump doesn't cause unity than there will never be unity with these folks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. As of about an hour ago she didn't. Still pushing the Sanders line on Twitter.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:55 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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