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brush

(53,471 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:27 PM Apr 2020

Does anyone have an idea why repugs in Wisconsin forced the in-person primary which endangers lives?

I mean it's a primary, not Dem against repug. And repugs have to get out there and endanger their lives too if they want to vote. And the repugs on SCOTUS even backed up the dangerous, reckless foolishness.

What do they think they've getting out of it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Does anyone have an idea why repugs in Wisconsin forced the in-person primary which endangers lives? (Original Post) brush Apr 2020 OP
It isn't the primary they are worried about, it is downballot elections & esp. concern for WI courts hlthe2b Apr 2020 #1
I still don't get it. The down ballad elections are not primaries either? brush Apr 2020 #3
No. Again, their BIGGEST issue is getting another Trumpster on the WI Supreme Court. hlthe2b Apr 2020 #4
No what? More info pls. brush Apr 2020 #5
Here: hlthe2b Apr 2020 #10
Ok, that explains it. There are general election going on as well. brush Apr 2020 #14
Usually low voter turnout will benefit Republicans on the ballot. totodeinhere Apr 2020 #37
They're sadists Blues Heron Apr 2020 #2
To quell voter turnout. liberalmuse Apr 2020 #6
Fitz and Prosser are running this shit show. Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #7
It's not the general election though. Dems are running against Dems and repugs against repugs. brush Apr 2020 #9
Surpeme Court as well as other Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #12
Packing the State Supreme Court in Wisconsin is why Trump won't declare a national lockdown tirebiter Apr 2020 #25
Only the Federal election is a primary. There are statewide elections that are NOT hlthe2b Apr 2020 #13
Ok, now I get it. brush Apr 2020 #15
Down ballot State, County, and Municipal offices are being decided Progressive Jones Apr 2020 #45
Because they know they have to cheat to win. Their numbers aren't growing like ours are. calimary Apr 2020 #8
It's not the general election though. It's repug against repug so why suppress that vote? brush Apr 2020 #11
Republicans have been just casually going wherever they please Jamastiene Apr 2020 #18
They are Republicans. Jamastiene Apr 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #17
2020 election voter suppression Locrian Apr 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #22
WTF Locrian Apr 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #33
It's explained clearly on 'The Daily' podcast from the NY Times today. Kablooie Apr 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #21
I know now from other posters that there are general elections decided today too. brush Apr 2020 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #30
DU is also my friend, it's an excellent news source. I got the answer pretty quickly right here. brush Apr 2020 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #36
You do you and I'll do me. Google often links you to other pages with more links that link to... brush Apr 2020 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #42
Sadists Borchkins Apr 2020 #26
There's some judge they're desperate to win dawg day Apr 2020 #27
They get their lives. They think that covid in the Democratic primary will hit enough voters to ancianita Apr 2020 #28
Here's a big thing. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #29
Don't you think Chainfire Apr 2020 #34
If the have long lines, it Democrat's waiting in lines. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #39
It's not about the Dem primary. It's about a state supreme court election. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #31
Got it. There are general elections there today also. brush Apr 2020 #41
Just to add... Newest Reality Apr 2020 #32
Yes, they do count on thier gullible, low-info base. brush Apr 2020 #40
Why JGug1 Apr 2020 #43
There is a state supreme court seat that the GOP wants to steal Gothmog Apr 2020 #44
because they new the churches could say DonCoquixote Apr 2020 #46
 

hlthe2b

(101,725 posts)
1. It isn't the primary they are worried about, it is downballot elections & esp. concern for WI courts
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:28 PM
Apr 2020

There is a big push to propel more RW thugs onto the WI Supreme Court. Suppressed turnout will help them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,471 posts)
3. I still don't get it. The down ballad elections are not primaries either?
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:31 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(101,725 posts)
4. No. Again, their BIGGEST issue is getting another Trumpster on the WI Supreme Court.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:32 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,471 posts)
5. No what? More info pls.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:32 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(101,725 posts)
10. Here:
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:36 PM
Apr 2020

The decision carries grave repercussions for the state of Wisconsin — and democracy more broadly. As Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg notes in her dissent, “the presidential primaries, a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court, three seats on the Wisconsin Court of Appeals, over 100 other judgeships, over 500 school board seats, and several thousand other positions” are at stake in the Wisconsin election, which will be held on Tuesday. Of all these seats, the state Supreme Court race, between incumbent conservative Justice Daniel Kelly and challenger Judge Jill Karofsky, is the most hotly contested.

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/6/21211378/supreme-court-coronavirus-voting-rights-disenfranchise-rnc-dnc

The R's originally wanted these other elections to be held separate from the Presidential primary so as to decrease turnout. When that failed they were determined not to delay given COVID-19.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,471 posts)
14. Ok, that explains it. There are general election going on as well.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:41 PM
Apr 2020

So a suppressed vote because of the virus is to their advantage. I figured there had to be a reason for it besides their usual evilness.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

totodeinhere

(13,036 posts)
37. Usually low voter turnout will benefit Republicans on the ballot.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:32 PM
Apr 2020

So by forcing the election to proceed the Republicans are hoping that there will be low voter turnout that will benefit their candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blues Heron

(5,898 posts)
2. They're sadists
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:30 PM
Apr 2020

it's a very puke trait.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

liberalmuse

(18,670 posts)
6. To quell voter turnout.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:33 PM
Apr 2020

To hurt Biden's chances. Sadly, one of my family members was hoping this would help Bernie win. I think this is messed up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Fitz and Prosser are running this shit show.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:33 PM
Apr 2020

All about retaining the levers of Power for the GOP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,471 posts)
9. It's not the general election though. Dems are running against Dems and repugs against repugs.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:36 PM
Apr 2020

How does it help them. I get trying to suppress the vote in the general but not why in primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. Surpeme Court as well as other
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:37 PM
Apr 2020

elected Court Justices are on the Ballot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tirebiter

(2,520 posts)
25. Packing the State Supreme Court in Wisconsin is why Trump won't declare a national lockdown
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:10 PM
Apr 2020

Sinking in yet?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(101,725 posts)
13. Only the Federal election is a primary. There are statewide elections that are NOT
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:38 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,471 posts)
15. Ok, now I get it.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:42 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
45. Down ballot State, County, and Municipal offices are being decided
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 04:39 PM
Apr 2020

aside from the national office primaries.

We do this the same way here in IL.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

calimary

(80,699 posts)
8. Because they know they have to cheat to win. Their numbers aren't growing like ours are.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:34 PM
Apr 2020

Their numbers are dwindling. They know this. They're VERY aware that the more people vote, the more Democrats will win. They know the only way they can still cling to power is to keep as many people from voting as possible. Neat, huh? AND WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THEM, 'EH? That they have to CHEAT to win? That they have to RIG THE GAME to win?

I think we all know the answer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,471 posts)
11. It's not the general election though. It's repug against repug so why suppress that vote?
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:37 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
18. Republicans have been just casually going wherever they please
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:45 PM
Apr 2020

whenever they please during this pandemic. I cannot help but notice that. You do have a fair question there, but I don't think the Republican vote is going to be suppressed, because a lot of them believe it is a hoax and are out there doing as they please anyhow.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
16. They are Republicans.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:43 PM
Apr 2020

They claim to be "pro life" but they are a death cult, in reality. They like to see people suffering. They get off on it. I kid you not. It's how they really are. I live in a red area of a red state. You would not believe the depraved way they think and the joy they get from watching people suffer. Republicans are sickos.

Several Republicans have also recently admitted that larger voter turnouts are bad for them. So, they have a direct and clear agenda here to suppress turnout by forcing people to vote IN PERSON during the worst possible time to leave the house. It is like they are openly torturing and mocking voters. That comes as a shock to people when they don't know just how low Republicans will go to get their jollies torturing people. Hint: Republicans will dig when the low they need to sink to is not low enough. They want to see just how depraved they can behave.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to brush (Original post)

 

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
19. 2020 election voter suppression
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:47 PM
Apr 2020

>> important state Supreme Court justice

exactly - which if they win will allow them to purge voters for the 2020 general election w/o having to worry about a judge with actual ethics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Locrian (Reply #19)

 

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
24. WTF
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:02 PM
Apr 2020

is your problem? Did you respond to someone else?
I just said that the GOP wants to stack the court to allow them to hurt DEM elections in 2020

Having them now is criminally insane not matter who is pushing them. Or does that go over your head?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Locrian (Reply #24)

 

Kablooie

(18,571 posts)
20. It's explained clearly on 'The Daily' podcast from the NY Times today.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:49 PM
Apr 2020

It's a naked power grab by Republicans.
They value power over lives and don't care who knows it.
The vote is not just the primary, there are many local politicians and judges to be decided.

They explained that the fewer people that vote the better are Republican chances are to win.
To extend absentee voting would allow many to vote that normally don't and increase Democratic odds.
Also few poll workers have volunteered so there are few polling places open.

They also said that this is likely to be a harbinger of things to come for other states.


They didn't mention that having fewer polling places will create bigger crowds which will increase virus infections.

Here's a link to The Daily:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/podcasts/the-daily/coronavirus-voting-wisconsin-primary.html


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to brush (Original post)

 

brush

(53,471 posts)
23. I know now from other posters that there are general elections decided today too.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:00 PM
Apr 2020

People who don't live in Wisconsin aren't necessarily aware of that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to brush (Reply #23)

 

brush

(53,471 posts)
35. DU is also my friend, it's an excellent news source. I got the answer pretty quickly right here.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:26 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to brush (Reply #35)

 

brush

(53,471 posts)
38. You do you and I'll do me. Google often links you to other pages with more links that link to...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:33 PM
Apr 2020

other pages with more links. I've found often times I get a quick, direct answer right here, along with other posters views.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to brush (Reply #38)

 

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
27. There's some judge they're desperate to win
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:12 PM
Apr 2020

Not sure why that's worth risking patriotic voters lives.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
28. They get their lives. They think that covid in the Democratic primary will hit enough voters to
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:13 PM
Apr 2020

help their numbers in Nov.

The good thing we get out of this -- We know they won't get to be fake Dems and cheat voters for Bernie the WI voting booths. So Bernie won't win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,729 posts)
29. Here's a big thing.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:14 PM
Apr 2020

They reduced certain areas from 150 voting stations to 15.

In areas where Repukes vote, not so much.
No lines. No barriers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Chainfire

(17,305 posts)
34. Don't you think
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:24 PM
Apr 2020

that the calculation is that more Republicans than Democrats will turn out? Nothing else groks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,729 posts)
39. If the have long lines, it Democrat's waiting in lines.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:34 PM
Apr 2020

Repukes don’t do things that require patience.

I know folks standing in those lines.

WI is a 47-47% state. The battle for that
3-4% has been fought since Wankers recall. The Mid terms went Blue for Gov.
I think this is the year Democratic determination will prevail. In spite of and due to this voter suppression treason.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,279 posts)
31. It's not about the Dem primary. It's about a state supreme court election.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:17 PM
Apr 2020

The GOP wants to keep the incumbent very conservative supreme court judge who is being challenged by a Democrat. That's why they made a big deal out of it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,471 posts)
41. Got it. There are general elections there today also.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:46 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
32. Just to add...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:18 PM
Apr 2020

Or even reiterate...

I have seen many references to how voter suppression and low turnouts are what keep the GOP going. I also agree. They really would be rather obsolete by now if they didn't do whatever they can to gerrymander, suppress, etc.

It's a good reason to call them ReTHUGlicans, because how can that kind of chicanery be called legitimate? Then they deflect from it and the media repeats what they say when they just blame everything on the legitimate, opposing party.

In this case, they may be counting on more gullible, conspiracy prone Republican voters to show up than others. There may be enough that think COVID-19 is overblown, a hoax, not that bad, like the flu, etc., to increase the number of votes for them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brush

(53,471 posts)
40. Yes, they do count on thier gullible, low-info base.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:45 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JGug1

(320 posts)
43. Why
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:31 PM
Apr 2020

Look at the red states, the states governed by Republicans. They are having to be dragged kicking and screaming into social separation. They are doing it only after demands. That is your answer. Every single time there is an opportunity to kick at science, the Republicans kick at science.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(143,999 posts)
44. There is a state supreme court seat that the GOP wants to steal
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 04:24 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DonCoquixote

(13,615 posts)
46. because they new the churches could say
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 04:54 PM
Apr 2020

Vote trump or you will go to hell, die and go to heaven, and the lemmings would march.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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