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TomCADem

(17,378 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 02:15 AM Apr 2020

'How do you fall for the Bernie Sanders scam?' Martin O'Malley on the Democrats and Iowa

Here is an interesting take from former Maryland Governor and Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley who ran against Hillary and Bernie in 2016 and initially supported Beto O'Rourke's 2020 run, so he is not exactly a Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden surrogate.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/01/bernie-sanders-iowa-democrats-martin-omalley

“I would frequently tell my students, ‘Look, I know in my own generation we fell for the Nigerian prince scam, but how do you all fall for the Bernie Sanders scam?’ I don’t get that.

“Here’s a guy who has been a kind of stalwart of the National Rifle Association, a man who said immigrants steal our jobs right up until he ran for president, a guy who said the sound of John Kennedy’s voice made him nauseous.”

* * *

“I respect the fact that he’s been saying the same things, mostly, since 1952, albeit dialing down his hatred for John Kennedy and his disdain for immigrants, but I just don’t get the appeal.

“He’s a man who never has accomplished anything in public office, who has I believe demonstrated his inability to forge a governing consensus, let alone hold a governing consensus. And I think he’d be an awful choice as our party’s nominee.”
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'How do you fall for the Bernie Sanders scam?' Martin O'Malley on the Democrats and Iowa (Original Post) TomCADem Apr 2020 OP
Hard To Argue With The Man, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #1
And he's NOT even a Democrat! Jack-o-Lantern Apr 2020 #2
Thank you for the last two paragraphs, Martin O'Malley!! Cha Apr 2020 #3
Great article - I really like Martin O'Malley NBachers Apr 2020 #4
K&R nt lillypaddle Apr 2020 #5
O'Malley nailed it! justhanginon Apr 2020 #6
And those don't even include the biggest indictments, including Hortensis Apr 2020 #7
I never understood why BlueMTexpat Apr 2020 #8
O'Malley makes plenty sense. nt oasis Apr 2020 #9
thats been my question all along...the bar for hero worship was a bit low... samnsara Apr 2020 #10
Me too. Scurrilous Apr 2020 #18
Glad to see people finally calling it what it actually is. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #11
This is what many of us have been saying "consistently" DenverJared Apr 2020 #12
Bernie's support is pure idol worship la-trucker Apr 2020 #13
I was Martin O'Malley precinct captain in my district.. and I twisted his arm basically to run Peacetrain Apr 2020 #14
I remember seeing O'Malley on TV quite a bit before 2016 BidenBacker Apr 2020 #16
very nice explanation demtenjeep Apr 2020 #15
Not a fan of Martin O'Malley but in this case i agree with him onetexan Apr 2020 #17
Thanks again for sharing this. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #19
K&R betsuni Apr 2020 #20
Bernie seems to do well in caucuses. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #21
 

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
1. Hard To Argue With The Man, Sir
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 02:36 AM
Apr 2020
"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
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Jack-o-Lantern

(965 posts)
2. And he's NOT even a Democrat!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 02:57 AM
Apr 2020
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Cha

(295,899 posts)
3. Thank you for the last two paragraphs, Martin O'Malley!!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:16 AM
Apr 2020
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NBachers

(17,001 posts)
4. Great article - I really like Martin O'Malley
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 04:37 AM
Apr 2020
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. And those don't even include the biggest indictments, including
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:08 AM
Apr 2020

* massive lies about what he would achieve to attract voters and what that reveals about him,
* trying to overthrow the popular vote in pursuit of power and what that reveals about him,
* running a populist campaign to pull together some of the most aggressively dangerous people found in any nation to lie and smash a way to power and what that reveals about Sanders, and
* unending lies about Democrats to keep us from getting power and what that reveals about him.

I'm a Martin O'Malley admirer and would have been glad to have him for president, but I think he should have been shouting this to the nation all along. MSM, RW and LW anti-Demorats, and Russia created a credibility around Sanders that enabled him to dissuade uncounted millions from voting Democrat.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Goebbels

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BlueMTexpat

(15,349 posts)
8. I never understood why
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:26 AM
Apr 2020

O'Malley did not attract more of those who style themselves as "progressives" in 2016. He was the Real Deal as compared to the Sanders Sham, both then and now.

One of my regrets from 2016 is that HRC did not choose O'Malley as her running mate. I understand the strategic thinking and have nothing against Tim Kaine, who's a good guy, but I still wish otherwise.

Whether it would have made enough of a difference we'll never know.

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oasis

(49,150 posts)
9. O'Malley makes plenty sense. nt
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:32 AM
Apr 2020
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samnsara

(17,570 posts)
10. thats been my question all along...the bar for hero worship was a bit low...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:05 AM
Apr 2020
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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
18. Me too.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:34 AM
Apr 2020

I've still don't get why Bernie. I'd see clips of Hollywood types fawning over him at rallies, John Cusack calling him 'my North Star' and that guy from Shawshank Redemption saying Bernie was 'our moral center,' and all I could think was 'Seriously?' 'Him?' 'When did this all come about?' It was like someone plucked the sleepiest klutz from the chorus line and tried to pass them off as a sprightly new lead via rampant ballyhoo and nonstop bullshit.

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HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
11. Glad to see people finally calling it what it actually is.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 11:43 AM
Apr 2020
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DenverJared

(457 posts)
12. This is what many of us have been saying "consistently"
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 11:59 AM
Apr 2020

and with "authenticity" for years.

Kudos to Gov. O'Malley

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la-trucker

(283 posts)
13. Bernie's support is pure idol worship
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:08 PM
Apr 2020

brought on mostly by anger and discontent of people who love to stick it to the political system with cries of "revolution."

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Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
14. I was Martin O'Malley precinct captain in my district.. and I twisted his arm basically to run
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:51 PM
Apr 2020

the year before at another meeting. Martin O'Malley is the real deal. The truth about Iowa, is that the Democratic party movers and shakers are the hardest left in the United States. And they are powerful. Hearts are in the right place, but they keep picking people who have not a chance in hell. But we carry on..

Edit to add... if we had a primary where everyone could vote, then Sanders never would have had a chance. He worked the caucuses where only the most fervent will go ..I should know, I never miss one. and it is was always the same people

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
16. I remember seeing O'Malley on TV quite a bit before 2016
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:47 PM
Apr 2020

after checking him out in more detail wrote him an email asking him to consider running in the next presidential election.

Iowa made Obama but killed off Marty...guess 1 outta 2 ain't bad.

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demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
15. very nice explanation
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:35 PM
Apr 2020

cuts right to the heart of the matter

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onetexan

(12,994 posts)
17. Not a fan of Martin O'Malley but in this case i agree with him
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:49 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. Thanks again for sharing this.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:23 AM
Apr 2020
“I would frequently tell my students, ‘Look, I know in my own generation we fell for the Nigerian prince scam, but how do you all fall for the Bernie Sanders scam?’ I don’t get that.
This was perfect.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,283 posts)
21. Bernie seems to do well in caucuses.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:50 AM
Apr 2020

His supporters are loud and seem to have the time and motivation to attend caucuses. They seem anti-democratic, attended by those who don't have more important things to do, like tend to children, go to work, etc.

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