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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:42 PM Apr 2020

As Whoopi Goldberg would say, "....still assessing...."

@BernieSanders to @AliVelshi on WI poll showing him 30 pts. down: "We are more than aware of that poll and we're more than aware we're 300 delegates down and we're making-- you know, taking a hard look and talking to our supporters as to what we'll be doing in the future."



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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As Whoopi Goldberg would say, "....still assessing...." (Original Post) George II Apr 2020 OP
He's such an ass. William769 Apr 2020 #1
Sanders, Sir, Embodies A Peculiar Form Of Identity Politics The Magistrate Apr 2020 #2
Excellent post. brer cat Apr 2020 #13
After Nov he will be once again Independent of the Democratic Party. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #3
He has already filed for his re-election in 2024 as an independent. George II Apr 2020 #7
You are Rebl2 Apr 2020 #16
And At That Point, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #10
Look Harder, BS. Cha Apr 2020 #4
Anyone who wants to be POTUS needs... NurseJackie Apr 2020 #5
That's a perfect response. William769 Apr 2020 #8
Thank you. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #17
Whoopi asks an evasive Bernie ... LVZ Apr 2020 #6
Here's the full 6-minute segment with Whoopi: George II Apr 2020 #9
Velshi gives Bernie nearly 30 min. to promote his agenda. Wtf? oasis Apr 2020 #11
The fantasy that Bernie could win the nomination is about as a big a fantasy Sloumeau Apr 2020 #12
Spin spin spin Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #14
Sanders can't or won't cut any cheese in Wisconsin Tetrachloride Apr 2020 #15
 

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
2. Sanders, Sir, Embodies A Peculiar Form Of Identity Politics
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:46 PM
Apr 2020

Sanders in his colossal egotism conflates support for certain policy goals with desire for him to be the leader of a movement to achieve those goals.

This is nonesense.

Even leaving aside the fact that most of those goals are general among Democratic voters and enjoy broad support among Democratic office-holders and Party officials, virtually no one, not even among Sanders' supporters, thinks he can actually achieve them should he come to hold the highest office in the land.

Expressions of support for Sanders are made as a marker of political orientation. Expressing support for Sanders says 'I'm not a moderate, I'm well to the left of most people', and as with most such things, serves to identify a 'cool' group separate from the general run of 'squares'. People doing this do not even particularly want to prevail, in the sense of being in the majority. It is axiomatic that a majority can never be 'cool', the feeling of being 'hip' and part of an 'in-crowd' depends on being outnumbered by the host of the unwashed and unenlightened. The point is not to achieve any political goal, to secure any discrete reform, it is simply to be sure one is perceived as a particular, and special, kind of person.

People who have an actual interest in achieving the goals widespread among Democrats, the goals of all left and progressive and liberal persons in general, recognize readily Sanders is far too flawed as a politician, and as a personality, to make any progress towards their goals. They know Sanders has not achieved any measurable advance towards them in his long Congressional career. They know Sanders' claim to hold patents and copyrights on these goals is nonesense, because they know their own desires pre-date Sanders, and exist in their hearts and minds without the slightest reference to him or influence by him.

In short, while Sanders imagines himself to be the indispensable man, an overwhelming majority of Democratic voters are clear in their minds that Sanders is quite dispensable, and are determined to see him disposed of, as soon as possible.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
3. After Nov he will be once again Independent of the Democratic Party.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:47 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. He has already filed for his re-election in 2024 as an independent.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:51 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Rebl2

(13,498 posts)
16. You are
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 09:03 PM
Apr 2020

kidding right? I think he can’t stand being rejected a second.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
10. And At That Point, Sir
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:55 PM
Apr 2020

He ought to stripped of committee assignments and seniority, expelled from the Democratic caucus and told to go caucus with McConnell if he does not like it.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,196 posts)
4. Look Harder, BS.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:48 PM
Apr 2020

Thank you for this, George.

I Retweeted Riotwomennn

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. Anyone who wants to be POTUS needs...
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:49 PM
Apr 2020

... to be able to make faster decisions when under pressure. This disqualifies him. Seriously.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,146 posts)
8. That's a perfect response.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:53 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LVZ

(937 posts)
6. Whoopi asks an evasive Bernie ...
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:50 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Here's the full 6-minute segment with Whoopi:
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:53 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,381 posts)
11. Velshi gives Bernie nearly 30 min. to promote his agenda. Wtf?
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:58 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
12. The fantasy that Bernie could win the nomination is about as a big a fantasy
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 08:24 PM
Apr 2020

as the one that said that Bernie could be Donald Trump. This fantasy is about as big as the one that said that Bernie could get his policy proposals passed if he somehow incredibly could win both the nomination and beat Donald Trump. I've heard of "The Magical Mystery Tour". This is Bernie's "Magical Fantasy Tour".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tetrachloride

(7,839 posts)
15. Sanders can't or won't cut any cheese in Wisconsin
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 08:46 PM
Apr 2020

Sanders wants yogurt. Great.

But Wisconsin lives on cheddar and cheese curds.

I myself prefer aged cheddar, parmesan and goat cheese.

Ultimately, what we all want is a huge Democratic turnout in November.

Bernie, you say you are taking a hard look at the campaign. I find this hard to believe.

One more thing, your medical records are not released. Same as Trump. Time to retire.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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