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Would Kamala Harris on Biden's ticket as VP (Original Post) cilla4progress Apr 2020 OP
Who cares? BlueLucy Apr 2020 #1
Is that the official "they"... tonedevil Apr 2020 #4
Pick one...got no use for folks who threaten to withhold their vote when a baby caging, Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #8
There really is no group more scurrilous... tonedevil Apr 2020 #10
Whatever, My vitriol is for those who appear to care nothing for people who would actually Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #13
I don't waste time on doing the math of how many are this way or that way. BlueLucy Apr 2020 #17
Whiny nonvoters? Who cares. we can do it Apr 2020 #2
Probably not, but... caraher Apr 2020 #3
Who cares. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #5
Kamala was one of the people the Bernie Bros went after the hardest. W_HAMILTON Apr 2020 #6
Exactly.. BS supporters were all over twitter tying to Cha Apr 2020 #14
No TheFarseer Apr 2020 #7
Cenk Uygur said he would vote for Biden...better than Trump and then start working on a primary Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #9
Elizabeth Warren!!! McKim Apr 2020 #11
It's Not going to be Sanders. Cha Apr 2020 #15
Unlikely, Ma'am, But Concern For What Might Please Them Is Not Worth Consideration The Magistrate Apr 2020 #12
Her history as a prosecutor won't draw progressives Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #16
She has MILLIONS of progressive supporters -- just not Bernie people nt pnwmom Apr 2020 #18
Maybe so Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Apr 2020 #21
Yes she does Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #22
The "Bernie bros" are still beating their wives. hay rick Apr 2020 #20
No VP choice will do that mcar Apr 2020 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #24
 

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
1. Who cares?
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:57 PM
Apr 2020

They say NOTHING will convince them to come over so.....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
4. Is that the official "they"...
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:03 PM
Apr 2020

or one of those "they" come-latelys? Are we hearing this from the entire "they" community or just one of the more radical "they" factions?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
8. Pick one...got no use for folks who threaten to withhold their vote when a baby caging,
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:17 PM
Apr 2020

murderer like Trump is on the ballot. If they need coaxing than they can fuck off...no use for people who don't understand that when your candidate loses, you vote for the nominee always, period...forever more.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
10. There really is no group more scurrilous...
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:22 PM
Apr 2020

than "they". Your vitriol is well thought out and bound for success.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
13. Whatever, My vitriol is for those who appear to care nothing for people who would actually
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:42 PM
Apr 2020

not vote for the Democratic nominee or threaten to not vote for the Democratic nominee because their candidate lost in the Primary...well boohoo folks get over it. We need to defeat Trump. All that matters at the moment is getting Trump out. Biden is the nominee. He beat Sanders fair and square.; Voters chose Biden. So everyone should do the right thing and vote blue no matter who.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
17. I don't waste time on doing the math of how many are this way or that way.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 06:02 PM
Apr 2020

They say they're in solidarity. People choose to be aligned with the groups they're aligned with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

caraher

(6,276 posts)
3. Probably not, but...
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:01 PM
Apr 2020

Getting rid of Trump has to be our focus. As Dr. Jill Biden memorably advised, "swallow a little and vote for Joe" if you can't get excited about the ticket. Anything less is enabling the dictator.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,813 posts)
6. Kamala was one of the people the Bernie Bros went after the hardest.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:14 PM
Apr 2020

Having said that, I would like to see Kamala on the ticket because she is a badass and her fans went back at the Bernie Bros even harder!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,926 posts)
14. Exactly.. BS supporters were all over twitter tying to
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:55 PM
Apr 2020

bring down Sen Harris with all kinds of smears. Same with Sen Warren.. now they're doing it to Biden, of course.

I like Kamala for VP, too.. we'll see what happens.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
7. No
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:16 PM
Apr 2020

And can’t you just say Bernie supporters?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
9. Cenk Uygur said he would vote for Biden...better than Trump and then start working on a primary
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:21 PM
Apr 2020

which is ridiculous. But he gets it. Biden picks the VP best for the General.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

McKim

(2,412 posts)
11. Elizabeth Warren!!!
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:38 PM
Apr 2020

My choice would be Elizabeth Warren or Senator Sanders. But I am already voting for Biden. Vote Blue no matter who.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,926 posts)
15. It's Not going to be Sanders.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:56 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
12. Unlikely, Ma'am, But Concern For What Might Please Them Is Not Worth Consideration
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:39 PM
Apr 2020

Expressions of support for Sanders are made as a marker of political orientation. Expressing support for Sanders says 'I'm not a moderate, I'm well to the left of most people', and as with most such things, serves to identify a 'cool' group separate from the general run of 'squares'. People doing this do not even particularly want to prevail, in the sense of being in the majority. It is axiomatic that a majority can never be 'cool', the feeling of being 'hip' and part of an 'in-crowd' depends on being outnumbered by the host of the unwashed and unenlightened. The point is not to achieve any political goal, to secure any discrete reform, it is simply to be sure one is perceived as a particular, and special, kind of person.

People who have an actual interest in achieving the goals widespread among Democrats, the goals of all left and progressive and liberal persons in general, recognize readily Sanders is far too flawed as a politician, and as a personality, to make any progress towards their goals. They know Sanders has not achieved any measurable advance towards them in his long Congressional career. They know Sanders' claim to hold patents and copyrights on these goals is nonesense, because they know their own desires pre-date Sanders, and exist in their hearts and minds without the slightest reference to him or influence by him.

In short, while Sanders imagines himself to be the indispensable man, an overwhelming majority of Democratic voters are clear in their minds that Sanders is quite dispensable, and are determined to see him disposed of, as soon as possible.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
16. Her history as a prosecutor won't draw progressives
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 06:00 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
18. She has MILLIONS of progressive supporters -- just not Bernie people nt
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 06:18 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
19. Maybe so
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 06:21 PM
Apr 2020

but many progressives do have problems with her because of her time as a prosecutor. Plus she comes from a solid blue state and won't help flip any swing states.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #19)

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
22. Yes she does
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:50 PM
Apr 2020

But their are others that do as well that don’t have her baggage and could help flip a swing state.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hay rick

(7,521 posts)
20. The "Bernie bros" are still beating their wives.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 06:31 PM
Apr 2020

They'll get back to you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,210 posts)
23. No VP choice will do that
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 08:11 PM
Apr 2020

They will vote for IMPOTUS, 3Rd party, or not vote at all and claim their hurt fee fees as reason.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

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