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pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 03:36 PM Apr 2020

The only thing Bernie's succeeding in at this point is demonstrating,

perhaps incorrectly, that his policies have very little support, even among Democrats.

He could have ended up on a high note, after California. Every day since then the air is coming out of his campaign tires, and he's looking smaller and smaller than before.

That does no good for the agenda he claims to support.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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The only thing Bernie's succeeding in at this point is demonstrating, (Original Post) pnwmom Apr 2020 OP
He just spent a whole half hour on Ali Velshi's show comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #1
On CNN,too. True Blue American Apr 2020 #7
Did this Ali Velshi(I don't have a tv) call him on anything like Cha Apr 2020 #9
Don't know. I turned off the sound. comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #11
lol.. I know that Cha Apr 2020 #12
100000000 Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #2
He had two options: withdraw from the field and return to the Senate as an elder statesman, or Squinch Apr 2020 #3
I wouldn't necessarily say that Bernie's policies have very little support BidenBacker Apr 2020 #4
That's why I said, "perhaps incorrectly." The increasing lack of support for HIM may be pnwmom Apr 2020 #5
Yep BidenBacker Apr 2020 #6
By June people will be asking la-trucker Apr 2020 #8
True, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #10
Excellent post as usual, Mag BidenBacker Apr 2020 #13
He's acting like he did BlueMTexpat Apr 2020 #14
Also demonstrating that Bernie doesn't have the demeanor to be president dansolo Apr 2020 #15
 

comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
1. He just spent a whole half hour on Ali Velshi's show
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 03:44 PM
Apr 2020

droning on about his political fantasies. He's going to be on Bill Mahr's show tonight. Doesn't look like he's getting out any time soon. Looks more and more like a repeat of his 2016 shit show. I hope he's just crushed and humiliated in the remaining primaries.

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True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
7. On CNN,too.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:40 PM
Apr 2020

Droning on and on about how his ideas will work.

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Cha

(297,119 posts)
9. Did this Ali Velshi(I don't have a tv) call him on anything like
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:45 PM
Apr 2020

Whoopi did.. or did he enable him?

And, why do they even have him on... he got crushed.. the Majority do Not want him or his agenda.

Thank you!

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comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
11. Don't know. I turned off the sound.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:17 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,119 posts)
12. lol.. I know that
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:25 PM
Apr 2020

feeling. thanks.

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Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
2. 100000000
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 03:53 PM
Apr 2020

Great post and so true...I wish he would get out so we can get those Sanders voters that might persuaded.

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Squinch

(50,935 posts)
3. He had two options: withdraw from the field and return to the Senate as an elder statesman, or
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 03:58 PM
Apr 2020

hang on past all logic and become a pathetic, irrational has-been.

He chose the latter.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
4. I wouldn't necessarily say that Bernie's policies have very little support
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:20 PM
Apr 2020

In my mind, a full-blown "policy" consists of 2 things...an identified problem and a proposed solution.

Bernie has correctly identified (albeit not the first by any stretch) quite a few problems that most Democrats, many Independents and even some Republicans fully agree need to be addressed. But merely identifying a problem is only half of the battle...the other half is coming up with realistic and viable ways to actually solve it.

And that is where Sanders has failed miserably...and why the vast majority of Democrats now look at him as a half-assed candidate.

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pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
5. That's why I said, "perhaps incorrectly." The increasing lack of support for HIM may be
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:30 PM
Apr 2020

interpreted by some people as lack of support for his policies or ideas.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
6. Yep
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:36 PM
Apr 2020

The progressive movement should and will continue into the future. It is a vitally important part of the Democratic Party that simply needs a new face to emerge as its leader and spokesperson.

At the moment, however, we're pretty much just all sitting around twiddling out thumbs waiting for the current one to come to the same realization. Tick-tock. Time sure does move slowly when you watch the clock.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?msg=2021%20Presidential%20Inauguration&p0=263&ud=1&year=2021&month=1&day=20&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&fromtheme=generic

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la-trucker

(283 posts)
8. By June people will be asking
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:41 PM
Apr 2020

"Is Bernie still running?" and rolling their eyes

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The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
10. True, Ma'am
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:07 PM
Apr 2020

Sanders in his colossal egotism conflates support for certain policy goals with desire for him to be the leader of a movement to achieve those goals.

This is nonesense.

Even leaving aside the fact that most of those goals are general among Democratic voters and enjoy broad support among Democratic office-holders and Party officials, virtually no one, not even among Sanders' supporters, thinks he can actually achieve them should he come to hold the highest office in the land.

Expressions support for Sanders are made as a marker of political orientation. Expresing support for Sanders says 'I'm not a moderate, I'm well to the left of most people', and as with most such things, serves to identify a 'cool' group separate from the general run of 'squares'. People doing this do not even particularly want to prevail, in the sense of being in the majority. It is axiomatic that a majority can never be 'cool', the feeling of being 'hip' and part of an 'in-crowd' depends on being outnumbered by the host of the unwashed and unenlightened. The point is not to achieve any political goal, to secure any discrete reform, it is simply to be sure one is perceived as a particular, and special, kind of person.

People who have an actual interest in achieving the goals widespread Democrats, the goals of all left and progressive and liberal persons in general, recognize readily Sanders is far too flawed as a politician, and as a personality, to make any progress towards their goals. They know Sanders has not achieved any measurable advance towards them in his long Congressional career. They know Sanders' claim to hold patents and copyrights on these goals is nonesense, because they know their own desires pre-date Sanders, and exist in their hearts and minds without the slightest reference to him or influence by him.

In short, while Sanders imagines himself to be the indispensable man, an overwhelming majority of Democratic voters are clear in their minds that Sanders is quite dispensable, and are determined to see him disposed of, as soon as possible.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
13. Excellent post as usual, Mag
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 05:41 PM
Apr 2020

Groucho Marx said something a bit similar many decades ago.



Although in his case he was joking that a club would have to lower its standards to allow him in...while the most extreme BS supporters believe the club's standards are not high enough for them to join.

Either way the end result is the same...winding up on the outside looking in. And that's not the way to help implement the changes that you claim you want. Incessant pouting and temper tantrums may sometimes work when you're a toddler but it tends to work less the older you get. Then again, from the looks of some of the most ardent Sanders supporters many of them do not appear to have been out of diapers for very long.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
14. He's acting like he did
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 06:53 AM
Apr 2020

in 2016 and continuing to contest a primary race he's already lost.

He's also demonstrating just how much he is the flip side of the same Trump coin. It's all about HIM.

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dansolo

(5,376 posts)
15. Also demonstrating that Bernie doesn't have the demeanor to be president
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:19 AM
Apr 2020

People are seeing what is needed from the president in a crisis. Frankly, imagining Bernie as President during all this frightens me. He likes to just sit back and complain, and then claim credit for other people's work instead of actually participating in the process. He also only values the opinion of people who agree with him on everything.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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