Hypothetical: If Biden dies of coronavirus, what should happen to the primary?

[Don1]

I know this is terrible. BUT Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, and Joe Biden all have slightly increased risk of death of coronavirus due to age...and not to mention how Donald Trump is handling the pandemic. If Donald Trump dies, it's clear that Mike Pence becomes President and would move forward running. If Sanders dies, it's also very clear because Joe Biden is so far ahead in the primary, he's the obvious winner of the primary and that is that--Biden vs Trump in the General Election. But what about in the more strange case of Biden dying of coronavirus?

I imagine there is some kind of process, like the delegates at the convention would vote, but then right now all the delegates are not decided upon, because they haven't been elected yet.

What would happen?

Also...what ought to happen?

[msongs]

1. since nobody has a majority, the convention should be open. the dismissive one(s) will be angry

about that of course, being angry most of the time anyway

[stopdiggin]

16. exactly right.

and you would have several candidates jumping back in. (and perhaps some entirely new names putting themselves forward?) I think the results of the primary this far in show a resounding "Not Sanders" sentiment in the party. And I predict it to be even stronger as time goes on.

[True Blue American]

51. Democrats

Will choose Cuomo!

[pazzyanne]

52. That's my thinking as well. nt

[monmouth4]

66. If there is an actual convention I hope Cuomo is invited to speak. n/t

[IcyPeas]

56. watch this video of Andrew Cuomo saying "No" to his brother

regarding if he would run for president..... (2 minute video)


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/politics/andrew-cuomo-2024-2028-president/index.html

[Polybius]

70. Quick question:

If Bernie ran unopposed in the remaining primaries, wouldn't he get all of the remaining delagates?

[The Magistrate]

71. He Would Not Be Un-Opposed, Sir

The ballots are already in place. Death does not remove a name, dead people have been elected in this country.

Understand, 'Bernie' is not going to get the nomination.

[Polybius]

72. But what about the candidates that already dropped out?

Their names were removed from the ballot (unless it was too close to the election to change). So your name can only be removed if you say to remove it? If another candidate (one who dropped out in February) had passed away instead of dropping out, would their name still be on all of the remaining ballots?

If yes...

What if Biden were to simply drop out today? Would he then be removed from all of the remaining ballots?

[The Magistrate]

74. The Vulture Dream Will Not Pay Off, Sir

'Bernie' will not be the nominee. Reconcile yourself to it, and move on.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."




"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot." .

[Polybius]

75. It's not my dream, stop accusing people of bad intentions without proof

It's not even my OP.

[The Magistrate]

77. The Guilty Flieth Where None Doth Pursue, Sir

The 'Bernie' campaign dreams of a vulture's success. There is no point to pretending that is not the case, and there is no point to speculating about it in terms of 'just wondering what might happen'....

You may note the person who posted this has not met with a favorable reception. The vulture's dream stinks.

It will not come true. You fly 'Bernie' colors. Your 'concern' will be met with the assumption you share the dream of the campaign you support. You are of course free to denounce the vulture's dream, to disown it as the mean-spirited moral bankruptcy it is, and move on.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Polybius]

102. My first choice was Warren

So I'd want her to get the nomination.

[The Magistrate]

105. Professor Warren, Sir, Was My Preferred Candidate As Well

And would certainly not complain should the Party in convention choose her as its 'favorite daughter' for the nomination.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Polybius]

107. So there ya go, we had more in common than we first thought

She would make an excellent VP.

[The Magistrate]

109. Timings Would Need Careful Management, Sir

The governor there is a Republican, and there are some intricacies to the state's replacement procedures for open Federal seats.

[ucrdem]

78. Indeed.

[fallout87]

92. Bernie is living in your head

that much is for sure. lol

[The Magistrate]

94. You Think, Sir?

If you had the least idea what lives in my head you would back slowly away, keeping your hands well clear of any pockets....


"Children make the best opponents at Scrabble, as they are both easy to beat and fun to cheat."

[fallout87]

96. Yes Im sure of it.

Considering how much time you spend here bashing a democratic candidate, he keeps you up at night.

[The Magistrate]

98. Again, Sir, What Keeps Me Up At Night Would Definitely Be Too Much Information

Though you are invited to speculate further. I am always open to being amused by some stranger....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Demsrule86]

2. Don't get your hopes up...as Sanders has less than 30% of vote...brokered convention and then

a new candidate is chosen to be our nominee. Sanders will not be the nominee...he was closer in 16 but has less than half of the vote he had then.

[Don1]

8. I don't wish death on anyone

even Trump until it's their time.

[MineralMan]

83. Yes, your concern is palpable.

[Don1]

85. I am not hoping Biden dies.

Just because someone writes something you do not like, it is not a reason to attack their character. There's a non-zero chance of any of the two Democratic candidates and of Trump dying of coronavirus. It's a non-zero chance. Bernie probably has a higher chance. Saying so doesn't mean I hate Bernie either.

[MineralMan]

86. I'm sure you are not.

That would be a truly maudlin sort of thing to hope, I agree.

[The Magistrate]

89. Nonetheless, Sir

You have floated the idea in a context and a manner which makes it bound to excite and aggravate tensions.





He is, after all, the only Democrat remaining in the contest.

The Democratic Party should begin now to consider Mr. Biden in all ways its nominee. Its leading figures should speak out for him and begin to campaign and raise funds for him. 'Bernie' should be ignored, and made to run explicitly against the Democratic Party. It is the only way to draw his teeth in regard to the general election, and the best way to minimize the size of his cult following.

If these things are done, postponement of the convention, which does seem indicated by concerns of public health, will make sense politically as well.


"Fortune favors the bold."





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[DenverJared]

106. I doubt that and I can sense the glee in your OP

If you were a real Democrat, you'd delete your OP. You are very transparent. We can all see what you are doing.

[George II]

20. At this point in 2016 he had 1091 delegates, this time around he's got only 924. He was behind....

...by 202 delegates in 2016, this time he's behind by 300.

The bloom is off the rose.

[jimfields33]

3. I would imagine they'd push hard for Cuomo

The convention would be between Bernie and Cuomo. Just a prediction. Hope everyone lives.

[Don1]

6. I think Cuomo is popular right at the moment.

But how would that process work?

[jimfields33]

40. I believe after first vote, all delegates are released and they can vote for

Whoever they want.

[Lulu KC]

4. If it were a Marvel movie

which I really, really wish it could be, a team of heroic Democrats would ride in on a bunch of horses or supernatural horse-like creatures and work together with laser lassoes.

Sadly, I don't think it's going to work out that way. I see pissing contests. Lots and lots of pissing contests.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

50. If it were a Marvel movie

at least we could watch Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) give the daily briefing in her black tights. The situation would still suck, but at least we'd have something to distract us from the pandemic for an hour a day.

[Lulu KC]

63. Instead we have goats taking over towns in Wales

for distraction, and orangutans playing with baby otters.
It's a crazy, crazy time!

[The Magistrate]

5. 'Bernie' Would Lose To a Dead Man, Sir

Mr. Biden still would be on the ballot, and defeat 'Bernie' in the remaining primaries.

Delegates pledged to Mr. Biden would vote for him on the first ballot.

They would then be released to vote their conscience, and would vote for some favorite son or daughter of the Party.

'Bernie' has not even this grotesque vulture's hope of the nomination.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Don1]

11. Can you point to a specific law or policy in documentation

that says if someone is not alive, then across all the states they remain in the primary?

[The Magistrate]

18. Dead Men Have Won Elections Before, Sir

Both primary and general. Delegates arrive pledged to vote for a specific individual on the first ballot. Should that individual prove unable to serve as the nominee, the floor would be thrown open.

What the Party leaders running the convention want to happen is what would happen. 'Bernie' has not got the votes to stop anything the convention's chair proposes.

"Bernie' has no hope whatever, not even should the worst befall the man Democrats prefer.

Understand that just about every delegate pledged to Mr. Biden will be someone who hates "Bernie' deeply, and means to make sure 'Bernie' never gets near the nomination.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Mister Ed]

36. Are you certain that Biden delegates "hate Bernie deeply"?

I've feuded on this board with Bernie supporters who accuse Biden supporters of hatred, but if you are right about this...then I have been wrong.

[The Magistrate]

42. 'Bernie', Sir, Grossly Underestimates The Feeling Against Him

Mr. Gothmog has been putting up nearby an account of the feelings of supporters of Mrs. Clinton, and how they have voted in this primary, and intend to vote where they await their chance to do so. These people are determined he shall not have the nomination, and is not allowed to repeat his sabotage of 2016. You may fairly gauge my feelings from my tone of expression concerning the man. Personally, I consider him a menace, who acts in effect as a left auxiliary for the Republican party, as the effect of his jihad against the 'Democratic Establishment' is to weaken efforts to turf out the cheap thug Trump and McConnell, the gravedigger of our Republic. There is no doubt whatever 'Bernie' knows this is the effect of his actions, and so to him, this is a 'win-win' situation. On the vanishing chance he secures the nomination, he overthrows the 'Democratic Establishment'. If he does not, and has weakened the Party's effort in the general election by his efforts at disruption and tuning his supporters to despise the 'Democratic Establishment', to such a degree that our effort fails, perhaps this will so discredit the 'Democratic Establishment' that our Party will have nowhere to turn but 'Bernie' for a champion.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Hortensis]

46. As Magistrate says. It wouldn't be Sanders, not because he's hated,

though many do blame him for 2016 and everything since, but because liberal Democrats are committed to liberal Democratic principles and goals.

We really do have liberal Democratic principles and progressive goals. We are believers!

With Biden alive or dead, we will elect a good Democrat who shares those beliefs and represents our wishes. It's that simple.

Of course, WE WOULD ALSO NOT ALLOW this hostile outlier who's proud of not being a liberal Democrat to destroy/take over the liberal Democratic Party, in spite of the best efforts of enemies on both right and left and overseas. It's also that simple, but secondary to who and what we are.

[Don1]

38. I don't think most Biden supporters hate Bernie.

I think most of them like Biden. Biden is a cool dude. He deserves to be liked by a lot of people.

[DownriverDem]

7. His VP

If he picks a VP ahead of time, then she should be the Dem nominee.

[Don1]

14. This kind of makes sense.

I think if they somehow legally make the team an entity, then it makes sense.

[Renew Deal]

35. I wouldn't count on that.

[pinkstarburst]

54. I think that depends

I think that depends on who the VP is. If he picks, say, Warren, Klobuchar or Harris, maybe?

But if he picks someone that absolutely no one in the country got a chance to vote for... I don't see that going over well. In that event, if they don't give it to Sanders, I think it would more likely go to Buttigieg or Warren, who were the next highest in terms of polling numbers.

[Anon-C]

9. What do you think ought to happen?

[FailureToCommunicate]

10. Ain't gonna happen. Biden is fit as a fiddle, and access to some excellent health care.

[melm00se]

12. The big questions

are:

What happens if a candidate or president elect dies

- Prior and up to election day (11/3/2020)?
- Post election day up to the day that the Electoral College meets (12/14/2020)?
- Post the day that the Electoral College meets and statutory deadline to receive Certificates (12/23/2020)?
- Post statutory certificate day and the actual counting of the vote day (1/6/2021)?

[Don1]

19. I suspect Biden will pick a VP very soon

So I think the first date is more of a question than the others?

BUT also, I suspect these dates may change to later because of coronavirus. This gives more chances of weird events happening.

[melm00se]

25. Each of these dates

can have valid claims as the most important date in the Electoral process

11/3/2020 - the People speak as it relates to electors, we are after all a "Democracy"
12/14/2020 - the Electoral College meets which is the Constitutional requirement for the Presidential and Vice Presidential election.
12/23/2020 - This is probably the weakest claimant date but if a vote (or votes) are no registered by this date they don't count.
1/6/2021 - Do the Electoral College votes matter (for want of a better word) before they officially counted?

[Sloumeau]

13. If we reach the convention where no one has a majority of Delegates,

it will be like 1972, where the delegates chose the nominee at the Convention. While this has not happened in a long time, it has happened in my lifetime. In 1972, since George McGovern had won the most votes, had won the most delegates, and had won the most states, he received a majority of the votes. It was not that complicated in 1972.

However, since I suspect most Democrats and most delegates, both pledged and unpledged, do not want a Democratic Socialist for the nominee, so if Biden were to die, the Convention might be brutal.

[Callado119]

15. BS is more likely to die from corona due to age and recent heart attack...

... I find it very telling that so many berners are openly musing about Bidens death...

[LongtimeAZDem]

24. +1

[Lulu KC]

65. +1

[Don1]

81. I 100% agree, AND I even mentioned in the op that

Bernie could die of coronavirus. But that situation leaves no open question of what to do next since Biden is the clear winner in that case. I already even said that in the op.

[Gothmog]

17. The bulk of the party should select another moderate

The vast majority of the party has rejected sanders and so sanders will never be the nomimee. sanders was appealing only to 30% of the party and after South Carolina the rest of the party moved to Joe Biden to stop sanders.

Link to tweet

Rarely has political momentum flipped as quickly as it did in the first half of March, as Mr. Sanders lost serious ground to Mr. Biden before the coronavirus slowed their race. There are well-known reasons for the shift: Moderate candidates like Mr. Buttigieg and Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota rallied around Mr. Biden. He enjoyed demographic advantages, particularly with black voters. And turnout among young voters and liberal nonvoters did not surge, failing to reshape the electorate as Mr. Sanders had hoped.

But beyond ideology, race and turnout, a chief reason for Mr. Biden’s success has little to do with his candidacy. He became a vehicle for Democrats like Ms. King who were supporting other candidates but found the prospect of Mr. Sanders and his calls for political revolution so distasteful that they put aside misgivings about Mr. Biden and backed him instead.

In phone interviews, dozens of Democrats, mostly aged 50 and over, who live in key March primary states like Massachusetts, Virginia, Michigan and Florida, said that Mr. Biden’s appeal went beyond his case for beating President Trump. It was his chances of overtaking Mr. Sanders, the only candidate in the vast Democratic field they found objectionable for reasons personal and political.....

These voters’ willingness to unite against Mr. Sanders helped Democratic Party leaders stave off his insurgent campaign and has made Mr. Biden the all-but-certain Democratic nominee. The convergence behind Mr. Biden also highlights a critical difference between this year’s primary and what happened to the Republican Party in 2016. Four years ago, establishment Republicans were openly skeptical of Mr. Trump after his victories in early primary states, but a fractured field and split primary vote allowed him to amass an insurmountable delegate lead, reshaping the party in the process.....

Ahead of Mr. Sanders’s presidential run in 2020, his campaign did not concern itself with smoothing tensions among voters who supported Mrs. Clinton in 2016. He did not seek the endorsements of many party leaders, who were always unlikely to back him, but could have been swayed from being openly antagonistic to ambivalent.

As a result, after a strong finish in Iowa and wins in New Hampshire and Nevada, Mr. Sanders did not benefit from an assumed truth of presidential campaigns: that early-state victories help bring in voters from other factions. Instead, people like Lori Boerner of McLean, Va., said Mr. Sanders’s performance sent them searching for a candidate who could stop his rise, and after the South Carolina primary, they landed on Mr. Biden.

The vast bulk of the party does not like sanders and so the will of the majority needs to be respected and another moderate selected.

[BidenBacker]

22. That's exactly what would happen

If Bernie is hanging around for merely this macabre reason alone he's barking up the wrong tree.

[Don1]

37. Let's not make Biden out to be Republican Lite.

Biden is not Republican Lite. The whole moderate versus progressive dichotomy is a sensationalistic media-driven smear against good Democrats. Biden is actually pretty progressive and there was a wide range of candidates along a continuum from slightly left of moderate all the way to very left progressive. Even the most relatively rightward candidate was very much to the left of Zell Miller or Brian Nelson.

So, repeating this media narrative of moderates versus Sanders is false. Biden is somewhere in the middle of progressive and moderate. Buttigieg was also around the same point approximately. And Warren was close to Sanders. So making this into moderates versus Sanders is just plain false.

If the delegates voted on another candidate they could easily come up with Warren or Buttigieg.

Both good choices.

[The Magistrate]

45. That Is Crawfishing, Sir

The charge Mr. Biden is 'Republican-Lite' is under trademark and copyright by the 'Bernie' campaign. It the nearest thing to substance his coterie have managed to assert. With the energetic efforts of the 'Bernie' campaign there would be no narrative of moderates versus 'Bernie'. There would simply have been at the commencement the recognition several candidates were serious figures, and one was not. By now it would be crystal-clear Democrats of all stripes prefer Mr. Biden and have no use for 'Bernie' at all.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Gothmog]

47. You are wrong

sanders had been rejected by the majority of the party and will NOT be the nominee no matter what.

[msongs]

41. bernie and pete were pretty much tied in Iowa. NOT a strong finish in Iowa nt

[fallout87]

97. 30% as it may, is still higher than any of the others

that dropped out. It would be a shame to deprive him of the nomination if, God forbid, Something were to happen to Biden.

[Gothmog]

99. 70% of the party does not want sanders to be the nominee.

There are a large number of real democrats who have very good memories. These real Democrats do not forgive or forget

Link to tweet

[Polybius]

113. I like Gavin Newsom

It's all speculation though, Biden isn't going anywhere.

[Hekate]

114. My governor is busy right now, if you don't mind

[mtngirl47]

21. I'll admit it---I'm superstitious--Don't tempt fate FFS n/t

[violasays]

23. This is truly macabre

And says a lot, I think, about people who support Senator Sanders. Shame on you!

[The Magistrate]

30. It Is The Depth To Which They Have Sunk, Ma'am, This Vulture's Hope

"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[BidenBacker]

39. Maybe that's why BS stayed in Vermont?

Was hoping a giant meteor would slam into DC taking out everybody in the administration and the entire Congress. Then as lone surviving Senator he'd set up a temporary White House in Montpelier and issue edicts from there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession

Sorry, Bern...I don't see senators on the succession list. Nice try, though.

Man, there are some pretty scary folks on that list...LOL.

[Skya Rhen]

58. +1000

[rzemanfl]

26. Bookmarking for after I wash socks. n/t

[Celerity]

88. Wash ours too, whilst you are at it, I am so sick of doing laundry.

[bucolic_frolic]

27. I don't see the purpose of sowing doubts with speculation

other than to sow doubts. If adverse events happen to candidates of either party, they parties will find a way to deal with them. Few here have much influence on those events.

[TwilightZone]

32. That's the intent.

There's a clear pattern.

[LongtimeAZDem]

28. Hypothetical: If Bernie dies of coronavirus, will "undecideds" finally support Biden?

SMH at this OP.

[Under The Radar]

29. I think that his delegates transfer to the next of kin

[Mike Nelson]

31. It will go to the...

... convention. The votes will be released. Probably, some people will un-suspend their campaigns... next, there will be some bargaining... after that, the vote will probably go to the candidate most like Biden. He may even designate a favorite and lend this person his support, before expiring.

[Jose Garcia]

33. An open convention where someone other than Sanders would be nominated

[Renew Deal]

34. Before the convention, we nominate Cuomo

After, God help us

[Polybius]

73. Very true

If it's after, it's really really complicated. Even if it's after November 3rd but before the Electors meet, it's complicated.

[W_HAMILTON]

43. Sanders will still not win.

That is what would happen and what ought to happen.

[honest.abe]

44. It will be anyone but Sanders.

[Thekaspervote]

48. Talk about macabre!

[Don1]

53. Life is macabre right now.

Right before I made this op, I learned that 3 people in my town died today of coronavirus. They were all older people. The mortality rate maybe isn't that bad, but for vulnerable older folks and when other factors are considered, things can happen. When you consider that Bernie, Joe, and Trump are all older people and primaries are moving dates around because of this horrific event, it is extremely likely that weird things are going to happen during this election cycle. Someone could die. The election could get postponed. But in any case, we ought to consider such possibilities and know how they will get fairly handled in a free society.

[LongtimeAZDem]

55. If Biden dies, the party will pick a Democrat

My guess would be Cuomo or Newsome.

[StevieM]

49. First, let's all hope that nothing like this happens.

Just like we all hope it doesn't happen in any election year.

If it did, then what happened next would depend on the timeline. If the candidate were to pass away after receiving the nomination at the convention, then I think the nomination would go to whoever he had selected to be his running-mate.

If the candidate were to pass away before the convention then I think Andrew Cuomo would be the obvious choice, possibly by acclamation. It wouldn't even surprise me if Obama stepped in early and said we all need to get behind Cuomo. That would pretty much settle it right there.

[LakeArenal]

57. "I know this is terrible. BUT...

Lost me at the first...but...

bs subject

[Squinch]

59. Cuomo should be drafted.

[JenniferJuniper]

60. Yeah, he's an obvious choice given our circumstances.

[OnDoutside]

61. I agree.

[nolawarlock]

64. I just love concern trolling. n/t

[LiberalFighter]

67. Bad taste in my opinion to even bring this up.

[Wanderlust988]

68. One thing about it, Bernie will never be the nominee

No way the party nominates someone that 70% voted against and who black people don't support.

[Polybius]

69. Probably Cuomo

The nomination would not go to Bernie, I can tell you that. They would never allow it.

[NNadir]

84. I think that after his behavior, most Democrats would not tolerate Senator Sanders. n/t.

[Hekate]

115. "They"? For the umpteenth time: 70% of actual Democrats voted AGAINST Bernie.

He does not have "more than anyone else" -- all he has is that disgruntled minority of people who are NOT, themselves, Democrats, and he keeps attacking all the rest of us who insist (for some reason) that we prefer to vote for a Democrat.

Also, Governor Cuomo is busy just now.

[Gothmog]

76. sanders will not be the nominee

There are a large number of real Democrats who have very good memories. These real Democrats will not forget or forgive

Link to tweet

[ucrdem]

80. Looks like Palmer was right on the money.

Uncanny.

[MineralMan]

82. It is, indeed, terrible.

Any candidate, or any other person, might die at any time. Being human is a death sentence.

However, political campaigns are not based on such possibilities. The odds of either Sanders or Biden, or even Trump dying are low, really. They are low for all of us.

So, such "concerns" ring hollow, indeed.

[Don1]

87. Political campaigns ARE "based on such possibilities."

That's why a VP is chosen. That's why Democratic Presidential candidates historically have picked a VP candidate. They just do it later in the election cycle. Since the probability of dying for a candidate is increased, it would be smarter to pick a VP candidate earlier.

[MineralMan]

90. I see. And yet, the only name you mentioned in your title was Biden.

Isn't that interesting. You even admitted that it was a terrible thought, for which I complimented you.

[Codeine]

91. Give it up.

“Undecided”

[William769]

93. It's the worst kept secret here!

[Hekate]

95. Trying to chum the waters, are you?

Just give it up. Please.

[The Magistrate]

100. A Reasonable Assumption, Ma'am

The posture of 'concern' ceases after a short while to amuse....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Coleman]

101. One or two or more candidates will re-enter

Try ti keep BS from sweeping the remaining delegates. Go to convention.

They will have a moment of respect and have a "first" ballot to permit Joe's delegates to vote for joe, then call for nomination of joe by acclimation.

Then go with a real first ballot. Joe's delegates are released and permitted to vote as they wish. Nobody gets a majority.

2nd ballot, super delegates join in. Smomebody other than BS gets a majority.

[DenverJared]

103. This is utterly morbid thinking

But let me tell you -- even if it happens, Bernie will not be the nominee.

[DarthDem]

104. What ought to happen

Is that you sensibly stop posting such inflammatory, macabre material. Just a thought. P.S., it still wouldn't be Sanders

[treestar]

108. What would it matter what Biden died of?

Whether it was CV or some other cause?

[woodsprite]

110. I hope Biden's campaign team are also going on a plan B - if he has to go up against Pence. nt

[oasis]

111. Andrew Cuomo #1 if Biden and Bernie were struck by lightning.

[Polybius]

112. I tried to reply last night around 2:00 AM, but it said that I couldn't reply to locked threads

Not sure what happened, but I see that I can now.