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mcar

(42,206 posts)
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:10 PM Mar 2020

Sanders skips key procedural vote

What am I missing here?


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While @BernieSanders holds his virtual campaign event tonight from Vermont and rails against the ongoing Senate #Coronavirus rescue bill, important to keep in mind he skipped a key procedural vote tonight on the bill.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Sanders skips key procedural vote (Original Post) mcar Mar 2020 OP
Would you explain something about this elleng Mar 2020 #1
The procedural vote was the 47-47 vote to begin debate on the Repulican farce of a bill. LonePirate Mar 2020 #6
Thanks elleng Mar 2020 #9
So if he was there it could have been stopped? And maybe the bill could be improved...wow just wow.. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #10
It was stopped because it needed 60 votes. Sanders' vote was irrelevant. LonePirate Mar 2020 #17
Every other Senate Democrat (and Angus King) felt it was relevant enough to be in Washington.... George II Mar 2020 #31
Then he should resign if he's irrelevant. RandySF Mar 2020 #32
Drop his losing campaign at least if he's so "irrelevant" Cha Mar 2020 #38
+1 honest.abe Mar 2020 #69
So Good For Him Being Absent When The Country Is In Crisis? Me. Mar 2020 #33
Can you even imagine the political shitstorm if other candidates did the same? mcar Mar 2020 #43
It's Like They're Occupying Space On Planet X Me. Mar 2020 #61
Yeah, she said they could pay it back in taxes mcar Mar 2020 #62
Right. As If... Me. Mar 2020 #63
That Is A Sensible Political Calculation, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #85
Madam Would Be More Approproate Me. Mar 2020 #88
My Apologies, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author Me. Mar 2020 #91
... Me. Mar 2020 #92
I agree, Sander's vote is completely irrelevant as is 97% of his Senate activity grantcart Mar 2020 #68
I think you're confusing his vote with his campaign. Now THAT'S irrelevant! n/t nolawarlock Mar 2020 #71
BINGO! TY, Nola! Cha Mar 2020 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #86
It would show his solidarity with his 46 other Democratic colleagues, who all participated... George II Mar 2020 #8
or he knew it wouldn't be approved, elleng Mar 2020 #11
That's not the point. All the other members of the Democratic caucus were there.... George II Mar 2020 #14
this was a vote that needed 60 ayes Terry_M Mar 2020 #24
This was a vote on the floor of the Senate, one that every healthy Senator (and 46 Democrats).... George II Mar 2020 #28
This is very silly. Terry_M Mar 2020 #36
Sanders has been in the Senate for less than three weeks in the last nine months, but... George II Mar 2020 #39
BS the 1st most absent member of the Senate. lapucelle Mar 2020 #52
First out of 100. That makes him the "leader"! George II Mar 2020 #54
Biden missed 12% of all rollcall votes during his career w/ the median being 2.0% Terry_M Mar 2020 #79
... TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #49
Bernie he may not be getting them to turn out much Terry_M Mar 2020 #80
Yes, Biden has two weak demographic groups: TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #81
That's a good message Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #59
What is more pressing mcar Mar 2020 #18
What is more pressing? showblue22 Mar 2020 #25
"..more pressing.."? Like a "campaign rally..".. where he's already LOST. Cha Mar 2020 #40
It is called solidarity and a team player. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #50
Such as? Aquaria Mar 2020 #53
In a time of crisis... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #75
Bern, I thought you were singlehandedly solving the Trump Virus crisis DonaldsRump Mar 2020 #2
We deserve better. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #3
Seems that Vermont does too mcar Mar 2020 #20
The vote was 47 to 47 and was absolutely crucial. showblue22 Mar 2020 #4
... William769 Mar 2020 #5
Uh huh mcar Mar 2020 #21
What the hell is he thinking? Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #7
Same thing as his minions Aquaria Mar 2020 #55
Shame on him. NO EXCUSE for this. highplainsdem Mar 2020 #12
I agree mcar Mar 2020 #22
coronavirus response featuring musical guests Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #13
Mind boggling, Maru mcar Mar 2020 #46
Maybe he's letting us know how important his vote is, ucrdem Mar 2020 #15
That is familiar, isn't it? mcar Mar 2020 #23
Then he can take his Aquaria Mar 2020 #56
That is exactly what it is. ucrdem Mar 2020 #57
He only likes people that praise and complement his every move. Senators are not going to do that showblue22 Mar 2020 #16
So? He's extremely unimportant in the senate -- SELF-disempowered. Hortensis Mar 2020 #19
Only needed 40 out of 47 democrats. projectiboga Mar 2020 #26
Piffle mcar Mar 2020 #27
There's always an excuse isn't there? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #35
Always mcar Mar 2020 #42
But But But sheshe2 Mar 2020 #60
McConnell voted against--it's a procedural ploy that the majority often uses in situations like this onenote Mar 2020 #73
I thought he had a "fucking global crisi" to work on. RandySF Mar 2020 #29
Well, he did say it's why he couldn't comment on his campaign mcar Mar 2020 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #34
Sanders is a demagogue who has failed TWICE to build a winning coalition SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #37
That's exactly right. showblue22 Mar 2020 #41
And that's just his presidential run... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #48
Exactly SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #51
But I thought he is saving the fucking world? NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #44
I guess doing his job isn't part of that mcar Mar 2020 #45
#whereisbernie? mcar Mar 2020 #47
#WhereIsBernie is trending on twitter Gothmog Mar 2020 #58
I wish senators were paid by each day they show up for work NCProgressive Mar 2020 #64
I hope someone asks him why he isn't in DC. marble falls Mar 2020 #65
I hope someone does mcar Mar 2020 #66
Immediate reaction? He's utterly exhausted, behind, and the Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #67
Well, if he's not up to the rigors of being a US Senator mcar Mar 2020 #87
Yes, just trying to give him a bit of time to decompress. Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #90
Odd he doesn't see the benefits of being in Washington... honest.abe Mar 2020 #70
K&R betsuni Mar 2020 #72
He's 78 with a heart condition. Safer at home with Coronavirus in the Senate. Liberty Belle Mar 2020 #76
78 with a heart condition so he can't go to DC The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #77
And this is why his health and medical records matter. He is not fit for office. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #78
If he is too unhealthy to be a Senator then he is certainly too unhealthy to be President. honest.abe Mar 2020 #82
Boyond parody Jose Garcia Mar 2020 #83
If he is that fragile, I suggest he withdraw from running for President. MineralMan Mar 2020 #84
It's only until Covid-19 passes Polybius Mar 2020 #93
I'm at work right now, at the same place I always work - my home. MineralMan Mar 2020 #94
Please stay safe Polybius Mar 2020 #95
I didn't encounter any coughing shoppers yesterday. MineralMan Mar 2020 #96
If he is too fragile to do his job.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #97
 

elleng

(130,126 posts)
1. Would you explain something about this
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020

'key procedural vote,' please.

What is it, what would it do?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
6. The procedural vote was the 47-47 vote to begin debate on the Repulican farce of a bill.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:17 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
10. So if he was there it could have been stopped? And maybe the bill could be improved...wow just wow..
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:19 PM
Mar 2020

I was so right about Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
17. It was stopped because it needed 60 votes. Sanders' vote was irrelevant.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:29 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. Every other Senate Democrat (and Angus King) felt it was relevant enough to be in Washington....
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:39 PM
Mar 2020

....and vote. What makes Sanders so special that he doesn't have to what he's being paid to do?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(57,588 posts)
32. Then he should resign if he's irrelevant.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:40 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,899 posts)
38. Drop his losing campaign at least if he's so "irrelevant"
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:52 PM
Mar 2020

as the poster says.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
33. So Good For Him Being Absent When The Country Is In Crisis?
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:41 PM
Mar 2020

and I bet it will feel great to be lauded by his followers as he rails against the Establishment, which he is a part of, and assails them for doing nothing. That pointy finger will be traveling at high speed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
43. Can you even imagine the political shitstorm if other candidates did the same?
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:07 PM
Mar 2020

Like, if the campaign was still going on, and Sens. Harris, Booker, Warren, and Klobuchar were home having musical guests and doing social media stuff instead of their jobs?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
61. It's Like They're Occupying Space On Planet X
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:38 PM
Mar 2020

and what's with AOC saying the wealthy should receive money too? Somewhat contra to their unceasing meme, though, she, her squad and BS the Establishment millionaire don't really have to worry, do they?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
62. Yeah, she said they could pay it back in taxes
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:40 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
63. Right. As If...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:40 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
85. That Is A Sensible Political Calculation, Sir
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 09:58 AM
Mar 2020

If there is no means test, it is difficult to press opposition on the Randite line of 'makers and moochers' long popular on the right. Owing to similar calculations, there is no means testing on Medicare and everyone gets a Social Security check.

I rather like Ms.Ocasio-Cortez, and consider her a proper ornament to our Party.




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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
88. Madam Would Be More Approproate
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:28 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
89. My Apologies, Ma'am
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:30 AM
Mar 2020

I will try and remember.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to The Magistrate (Reply #89)

 

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
68. I agree, Sander's vote is completely irrelevant as is 97% of his Senate activity
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:01 PM
Mar 2020

It's a ream sport and Sender's insist on playing Solitaire.

It would have been great framing for the media to report that the bill failed to "even get a majority in the Senate".
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
71. I think you're confusing his vote with his campaign. Now THAT'S irrelevant! n/t
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:37 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,899 posts)
74. BINGO! TY, Nola!
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:47 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to LonePirate (Reply #17)

 

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. It would show his solidarity with his 46 other Democratic colleagues, who all participated...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:18 PM
Mar 2020

...this afternoon and all voted Nay.

He was the only member of the Democratic Caucus who didn't consider it important enough to participate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

elleng

(130,126 posts)
11. or he knew it wouldn't be approved,
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:19 PM
Mar 2020

and had more pressing things to attend to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. That's not the point. All the other members of the Democratic caucus were there....
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:21 PM
Mar 2020

...to vote against it. What makes him so special?

What "more pressing things" did he have to do? As a United States Senator what's more pressing than DOING HIS JOB?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Terry_M

(745 posts)
24. this was a vote that needed 60 ayes
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020

being absent = being a nay.
Functionally speaking his presence would have made absolutely no difference.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. This was a vote on the floor of the Senate, one that every healthy Senator (and 46 Democrats)....
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:36 PM
Mar 2020

....participated in.

Ninety four Senators voted - five are now self-quarantined and one didn't even bother to be in town. That one is the ONLY member of the Democratic caucus who not only didn't vote but wasn't even in Washington.

People can make all the excuses they want, but the fact is a sitting Senator is obligated to participate if he/she can.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Terry_M

(745 posts)
36. This is very silly.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:47 PM
Mar 2020

If I find an important vote that Biden was absent for over his 30 years in the senate, do you promise that you will be equally upset with Joe as you are right now with Bernie? Should I go find one? (I don't believe that you will be equally upset so I'm not going to bother).

Instead of finding reasons to be upset that Bernie still exists even though he obviously lost, I think we all need to figure out how Joe can get more youth vote actually excited about his campaign and to convince them to actually bother to vote for him in greater numbers than they did for Hillary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. Sanders has been in the Senate for less than three weeks in the last nine months, but...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:53 PM
Mar 2020

...his pay check still gets cashed.

I seriously doubt that Biden missed a vote that all other healthy Senators participated in. And I'm sure Biden didn't miss a vote when the country had such a double-barreled threat facing it.

This isn't whataboutism, and Biden isn't a Senator today.

There was no logical reason for missing this vote today. Beside, there were negotiations going on the last three days. What if there was a bipartisan deal reached this afternoon? What excuse would he have in that case?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
54. First out of 100. That makes him the "leader"!
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:25 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Terry_M

(745 posts)
79. Biden missed 12% of all rollcall votes during his career w/ the median being 2.0%
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:22 AM
Mar 2020

That's 6 times higher than the median line.
But I don't think this makes him bad.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/joseph_biden/300008

If you look at the chart on that page, he had a good track record most of the time but there are two huge spikes while he was out campaigning for other (non-senator) office positions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TexasTowelie

(111,280 posts)
49. ...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:53 PM
Mar 2020

and to convince them to actually bother to vote for him in greater numbers than they did for Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Terry_M

(745 posts)
80. Bernie he may not be getting them to turn out much
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:30 AM
Mar 2020

but the point is they're definetely NOT turning out for Biden like at all.

Voters under 45 continued to support Bernie Sanders by huge margins in Florida, Illinois and Arizona even as other groups came around to Biden

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/democrats-sound-alarm-about-joe-biden-s-young-voter-problem-n1163296

AZ/FL/IL aside, for the few that bothered to come out, in Michigan exit polls it's the same story. If 3 out of every 4 18-29 year olds that bothered to come out came out to vote for Bernie (with Biden getting 19%)... That doesn't seem very encouraging.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TexasTowelie

(111,280 posts)
81. Yes, Biden has two weak demographic groups:
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:52 AM
Mar 2020

young voters and Latinx voters.

For the most part Biden closed the gap on Bernie with Latinx voters with the results in Arizona and Florida.

As for young voters, well a lot of them admired the freebies that Bernie was going to give them even though he had no way of possibly paying for them. I don't see the point of making empty promises and I don't think that Biden should make them to draw young voters who aren't going to show up to vote to begin with. When the general election arrives I have no doubt that Biden will draw a larger share than Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mr.Bill

(24,103 posts)
59. That's a good message
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:34 PM
Mar 2020

to send to young voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
18. What is more pressing
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:30 PM
Mar 2020

than a bill to help the American people? What?

He obviously has a lot of ideas about what should be in that bill since he's putting them out on social media. Why isn't he in DC, doing the job he was elected to do?

The only excuse he could possibly have is that he's self-quarantining or is C19 positive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
25. What is more pressing?
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020

His pretend campaign?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,899 posts)
40. "..more pressing.."? Like a "campaign rally..".. where he's already LOST.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:54 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,319 posts)
50. It is called solidarity and a team player.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:57 PM
Mar 2020

We Americans are in a fight for our very lives. OUR LIVES and he failed to stand for us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
53. Such as?
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:24 PM
Mar 2020

Sending more emails and hosting more music acts?

This self-serving fraud needs to go run a charity. It’s what he seems to want to do now, rather than his job or what’s good for the country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,319 posts)
75. In a time of crisis...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:12 AM
Mar 2020

In a time of crisis it would have shown unity and solidarity to your fellows in the Senate and your fellows in Congress.

It would have show compassion to the men and women on the front line as they literally are putting their lives on the line without PPE. I thought he always fought for heath care for all, does that not mean protections for our front line during a crisis? Healthcare means protections. Where is he?

Fact. A Billionaire, and Bernie wants them wiped of the face of the earth, Smidt of Harbor Freight is donating their entire stock of PPE for hospitals. Imagine that, a billionaire donating millions to the caregivers. The people on the front line.

What has Bernie done? Hm, what?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
2. Bern, I thought you were singlehandedly solving the Trump Virus crisis
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:14 PM
Mar 2020

and that's why you had your little hissyfit with Manu Raju?

Get your a*s back to the Senate and do your job, man. Or is your job something else? I'm confused.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
20. Seems that Vermont does too
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:31 PM
Mar 2020

This is a very bad look for the Senator. Oh, yeah, he's a Senator. Let's not forget that while his staffers and supporters scream at Biden for being "invisible."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
4. The vote was 47 to 47 and was absolutely crucial.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:17 PM
Mar 2020

People who keep apologizing for him have to ask themselves why.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
7. What the hell is he thinking?
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:17 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
55. Same thing as his minions
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:28 PM
Mar 2020

I’ll show all of you by taking my toys and going home!

Good grief it’s one long tantrum with this dude.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,718 posts)
12. Shame on him. NO EXCUSE for this.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:20 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
13. coronavirus response featuring musical guests
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:20 PM
Mar 2020

Jesus FUCKING Christ


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
46. Mind boggling, Maru
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:27 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
15. Maybe he's letting us know how important his vote is,
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:22 PM
Mar 2020

and reminding us of why we have to put up with his horseshit if we want his help?

That would be SOP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
23. That is familiar, isn't it?
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
56. Then he can take his
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

Bullshit blackmail and shove it. And to that, I say: Go home, Grandpa. You’re done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
57. That is exactly what it is.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:34 PM
Mar 2020

And what it has been, for some time. Thank you for saying it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
16. He only likes people that praise and complement his every move. Senators are not going to do that
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:22 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. So? He's extremely unimportant in the senate -- SELF-disempowered.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:30 PM
Mar 2020

HIS doing. But being I-Sanders also means he doesn't have to do the work most senators do, and of course he's technically named to 6 committee but their meetings don't normally need him there.

And when votes are highly important symbolically, like this one, it's not unusual for him to choose those to vote against Democrats and use the attention to lie about them.

So,...whatever? I'd say he's VT's problem, but actually he really is. VT's elections are rigged to break competition for his seat by liberal Democrats. In VT, most conservatives register as Democrats but are overall moderately hostile to the national party, and his ratings are very high with them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

projectiboga

(53 posts)
26. Only needed 40 out of 47 democrats.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020

We only needed 40 votes tonight, and we got 47, so at least one Repugnant voted with us. Maybe our majority leader approved him keeping his campaign event happening, as his cash and supporters will be of use in the general.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
27. Piffle
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:35 PM
Mar 2020

We didn't know until this afternoon how many Democrats would vote against it. For god's sake, even Manchin has been stronger on this than Sanders had.

He had no idea that his vote wasn't needed.

Besides that, just what is his job exactly?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. There's always an excuse isn't there?
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:45 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
42. Always
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:05 PM
Mar 2020

Doesn't that sound familiar?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,319 posts)
60. But But But
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:38 PM
Mar 2020

I read here that Bernie is more of a Democrat than all the Democrats combined.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onenote

(42,373 posts)
73. McConnell voted against--it's a procedural ploy that the majority often uses in situations like this
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:23 AM
Mar 2020

By voting no McConnell is in a position to seek a new vote whereas that wouldn't be the case if he had voted yes.

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RandySF

(57,588 posts)
29. I thought he had a "fucking global crisi" to work on.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:37 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
30. Well, he did say it's why he couldn't comment on his campaign
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:39 PM
Mar 2020

Then he went to Vermont to talk to Jane about his campaign. Now he's having coronavirus meetings with live music and other really important stuff. But he can't be bothered to do his fcking job.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
37. Sanders is a demagogue who has failed TWICE to build a winning coalition
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:51 PM
Mar 2020

Time for him to DROP OUT

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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
41. That's exactly right.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:57 PM
Mar 2020

He feeds off people fawning over him, complimenting him. It's why he can't stay away from campaigning not even long enough for a vote.

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Joe Biden
 

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
48. And that's just his presidential run...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:46 PM
Mar 2020

He hasn't been able to get anything but a post office name and a minor veteran's bill into committee for over thirty years.

Some fucking revolution.

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Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,068 posts)
44. But I thought he is saving the fucking world? NT
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:08 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
45. I guess doing his job isn't part of that
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:11 PM
Mar 2020

Or something.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,206 posts)
47. #whereisbernie?
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:36 PM
Mar 2020

?s=20

Isn't it ironic that the #BernieBrothers have been pushing the hastag #WheresJoe for a week, yet @BernieSanders is missing in action for critical deliberations and votes in Washington.

Who else agrees Bernie needs to get back to Washington and do his job NOW.#WhereIsBernie
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Gothmog

(143,998 posts)
58. #WhereIsBernie is trending on twitter
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:34 PM
Mar 2020
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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
64. I wish senators were paid by each day they show up for work
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:44 PM
Mar 2020
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marble falls

(56,353 posts)
65. I hope someone asks him why he isn't in DC.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:49 PM
Mar 2020
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mcar

(42,206 posts)
66. I hope someone does
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:50 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
67. Immediate reaction? He's utterly exhausted, behind, and the
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:59 PM
Mar 2020

world's falling apart.

He needs rest for 3 days. Understood.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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mcar

(42,206 posts)
87. Well, if he's not up to the rigors of being a US Senator
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:14 AM
Mar 2020

Maybe he shouldn't be?

The world's falling apart. We need leaders. Do you think Pelosi and Schumer might be exhausted too? What about Dr. Fauci?

What about all the healthcare professionals literally putting their lives on the line?

But poor, poor Bernie needs a break.

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Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
90. Yes, just trying to give him a bit of time to decompress.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:39 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,556 posts)
70. Odd he doesn't see the benefits of being in Washington...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:03 AM
Mar 2020

to work with his fellow Senators on probably the most important ‘fucking global crisis’ facing this country in his lifetime.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Liberty Belle

(9,528 posts)
76. He's 78 with a heart condition. Safer at home with Coronavirus in the Senate.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:16 AM
Mar 2020

Sounds like his vote was not needed, so I'm fine with him not taking that risk.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
77. 78 with a heart condition so he can't go to DC
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:25 AM
Mar 2020

on account of CV, but he thinks he’s OK to be president?

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
78. And this is why his health and medical records matter. He is not fit for office.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:56 AM
Mar 2020

He most definitely should stay home and spend time with his family while he can. He would be a horribly risky choice for President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,556 posts)
82. If he is too unhealthy to be a Senator then he is certainly too unhealthy to be President.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:31 AM
Mar 2020

I hope he just stays in Vermont and retires. He is not helping our cause whatsoever.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,189 posts)
84. If he is that fragile, I suggest he withdraw from running for President.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 09:47 AM
Mar 2020

He probably should resign from the Senate as well, if he cannot make it to the Senate chambers for crucial votes.

Think about what you wrote for a minute.

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Polybius

(15,235 posts)
93. It's only until Covid-19 passes
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:04 PM
Mar 2020

Have you been going to crowded places the past few days? Remember, he's older than you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,189 posts)
94. I'm at work right now, at the same place I always work - my home.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:09 PM
Mar 2020

I've been going grocery shopping when necessary, something that is allowed, even in quarantined areas.

Yes. Bernie Sanders is older than me by a couple of years. His fellow Senators are at work. If you are unable to attend Senate sessions due to your age, then you should not be a Senator. I am not a Senator. I am not a first responder. I am not a healthcare worker. Those people have to go to work in dangerous conditions. I thank them for their dedication. Our Senators, House Members, Governors, State Legislators, and many others in government don't get to stay at home during this pandemic, because their work is essential. I am also not an elected official.

So, never mind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Polybius

(15,235 posts)
95. Please stay safe
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:11 PM
Mar 2020

I went grocery shopping yesterday and had to avoid coughing shoppers. I wish there was an easier way to get groceries here, but there isn't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,189 posts)
96. I didn't encounter any coughing shoppers yesterday.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:13 PM
Mar 2020

I'm being very careful, in any case. Grocery delivery times are about a week here. It's not optimal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,068 posts)
97. If he is too fragile to do his job....
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

... then why is STILL trying to get a more important one?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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