Michelle Obama MUST accept the VP nomination!

[katusha]

I understand that she has indicated that she wishes not to run but this is a national emergency!!!! Truman didn't want to be VP either but Roosevelt pressured him into it because of the national need. Sometimes the best leaders are those who do not seek the spotlight! In addition I also propose that Biden appt Barack Obama as Sec State.

[LakeArenal]

1. Not likely.

Dreamy. But not happening.

Edit to add: MO would outshine ANY presidential candidate.

[LovingA2andMI]

2. No...

She does not.

[madaboutharry]

3. I adore Michelle Obama, but she has said many times

that she doesn't like politics. She writes about those feelings in her book. It took a lot for her to accept her husband's love of politics. She wrote in her book about how when she fell in love with him that she didn't really understand what she was signing up for.

It isn't going to happen.

[onetexan]

4. LOL sounds like you're trying to draft Mrs. O

not happening

[katusha]

7. yes!

i am wish me luck.

[MontanaMama]

28. Michelle has publicly stated how much she likes

her private life after leaving the WH. We’ve got many other wonderful, talented and smart women to choose from. Time to let Michelle be.

[dem4decades]

5. No. She's served her time.

[Rhiannon12866]

9. Yup, that's what she's said.

And there are so many other ways she can and has contributed.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

6. It's

silly season I guess.

[handmade34]

8. No...

she and Mr. Obama need to just keep doing what they are doing right now

she should not stoop to being on stage with Pence

[RestoreAmerica2020]

10. I sincerely believe if Biden calls to offer VP, she'll accept. She is surely qualified, would like

..current democratic senators to stay put. Including warren, Harris, Klobuchar--when we take the executive, senate ae sill need them there to clean up friking mess..we need their experience so we can get his country on track. Damn it--we've lost frking 4 years bc of pendejo [frikng moron ] in WH, then once all is back in order..we shore up laws so this [having an unqualified sob as president ] doesn't ever happen again.

So O'Rouke, Castro [from Texas] whose in Florida? We electoral votes from TX and FL--I'm sure Biden is looking at who can help win those states

[janterry]

11. why? because she has charisma?

I want a politician. I like her well enough. She was a great first lady.

But I want a politician.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Why? There are plenty of excellent candidates.

As much as I respect Michelle Obama, she has never had any government experience besides as First Lady (she's never been elected to anything), and she'd probably be the first to admit she isn't qualified in that respect. We already have at least a half-dozen experienced, respected women who could fill that job brilliantly. Nobody should be pressuring her into taking a job she clearly doesn't want. Trying to draft someone who is clearly uninterested is really kind of an insult to the women who were actual candidates or who have served in other elected offices.

[katusha]

15. fair points, i will try to respond

why?
because no one in america is more trusted than MO, and what we need most in government is for the people to TRUST the govt.
the VP is largely a symbolic post, so no insult is intended for any of the fine choices Biden otherwise has, In fact i have no expectation that this will come to be so i realize this post is half in jest. My reality is that i hope Biden picks Stacey Abrams, i think we will need her to combat voter suppression and I'm a fanboy, but my number one fantasy choice will always be MO
and thanks for replying, i love your stuff Velveteen Ocelot!

[thesquanderer]

24. re: "the VP is largely a symbolic post" - but she has to be ready to be president...

...especially when the president is 78-82 years old (as Biden will be over a 4 year term).

I really see no appeal in this, and don't know why people keep fantasizing about it. She has almost no relevant experience, we don't even really know what her policies/positions would look like (unless you're simply of the mind that "any Dem will do&quot , and she is not a rock star in favorability outside the Dem base (yougov says overall 57% favorable, 30% unfavorable, which is very good, but not game changing, and probably only even that high because she's not running for anything and not saying or doing anything controversial).

[Tommy_Carcetti]

13. A) She's not interested.

B) She's not going to be asked.

That's that.

[unblock]

14. i think people are rooting for her to take a political role precisely because she's not eager for it

she's just not that type of person.

national politics is a terrible business on a personal level. if you're a crook; a sociopath; or a super-ambitious, egotistical, savior-wannabe, then politics is great. but for real people, it's a horrible line of work.

michelle is so real and down-to-earth and smart and sensible that she would be a refreshing change. but the job would chew her up and spit her out. or, more precisely, republicans and the right-wing press would. i think she knows damn well how hard it is on a president and their family, and wouldn't want to go through that again.


hey, some of the best singers ever have stage fright. it's great to dream of seeing them perform live, but sometimes you gotta accept that it's just not going to happen.

[showblue22]

16. We would win if she did. No doubt about it.

[former9thward]

17. Please do not rewrite history.

Roosevelt did not want Truman. He wanted James Byrnes, who had the title of assistant president, or William O Douglas, Justice of the Supreme Court. Party leaders wanted Truman and pressured Roosevelt to accept. He didn't and the vote went to the convention delegates. After three votes Truman got enough delegates to be selected. Roosevelt never had a significant conversation with Truman from the time they were elected until Roosevelt died. Truman knew nothing about WW II strategy and plans other than what he read in the paper.

[Squinch]

18. .

[Jakes Progress]

19. Why would you wish that hell on her life?

[Rebl2]

20. She has said many times

she has no desire to run. Leave her alone!

[Dem4Life1102]

21. Truman was a Democratic Senator

and had a responsibility to the party. Michelle Obama is a private citizen.

[slumcamper]

22. Actually, she should be our nominee--and president. But, oh well...

[Gore1FL]

23. She doesn't want the job. There are people with other surnames who do. nt

[DinahMoeHum]

25. Aint. Gonna. Happen.

Please leave her alone. Thank you.



#newrostrong

[leftieNanner]

26. Nah

Put Barack on SCOTUS! Really make the MAGAts heads explode.

I would love to see Michelle on the ticket, but I don't think she would do it.

How about Hillary as Secretary of State again?

[Stand and Fight]

27. No... She's not qualified. However much we may like her, she has ZERO experience in office. n/t

[Doreen]

29. Maybe that would happen in Never Never land.

[we can do it]

30. She doesn't want to. Forget about it.

[zonkers]

31. Have you been smoking the good stuff again?

[katusha]

33. of course! n/t

[Tarc]

32. This is an asinine opinion. She is not a politician and has no place running for VP

This dim tomfoolery serves no purpose, we need a VP with actual credentials, not a feel-good fantasy draft.

[katusha]

34. well thank you for that

so who would you pick?

[grantcart]

35. For the record FDR did not pick Truman

The choice of VP during the FDR years was still controlled by the machines that ran the convention. FDR wanted Wallace off and personally preferred Justice William Douglas.

The machines moved against Wallace and a number of candidates were put up to compete on the convention floor and Truman was scheduled to nominate one.

Truman had garnered tremendous respect across the country for the Truman Committee and different key city leaders started to change to Truman.

FDR was asked his opinion and advised either Douglas or Truman would be OK. Had the convention wanted someone else FDR would have had to accept though everyone preferred consensus.

In any case FDR did not "pick" Truman.

[katusha]

36. i'm sorry, i misspoke.

you are correct, i was referencing this anecdote of the reluctant Truman:

"On Wednesday, Truman and the leaders gathered in Hannegan's suite in Blackstone Hotel. Hannegan called Roosevelt while Truman listened, and told him that Truman was a contrary Missouri mule. Roosevelt replied loudly, so everyone in the room could hear, "Well, tell him if he wants to break up the Democratic Party in the middle of a war, that's his responsibility," and slammed down the receiver. Truman was dumbstruck, but after a few moments replied, "Well, if that is the situation, I'll have to say yes. But why the hell didn't he tell me in the first place?" By another account he just said, "Jesus Christ." Before the call, Hannegan and Roosevelt had agreed what each one should say."

*from Ferrell, Choosing Truman, pages 61-62; Ferrell, Harry S. Truman: a Life, page 170

[grantcart]

40. Not a big deal, I just like to correct little historical misunderstandings when I see them

In the pre modern era the convention s had a lot more to do with the VP than now.

Hannegan was the guy who was promoting somebody else and warmed to Truman at the convention and engineered Truman's ascent.

FDR wanted William Douglas the most. Can you imagine what a disaster that would have been? And I love my fellow Washingtonian.

[The Magistrate]

38. True, Sir

If recollection serves, the Truman Committee looked into waste in weapons procurement during the war.

Wallace went on to run as an independent in '48, his campaign dwindling to the point it was virtually an association of CPUSA fellow travelers. Several adults of my acquaintance when I was young told me they had meant to vote for him, right up to entering the booth, where they switched to casting a ballot for Mr. Truman. The presence of the Dixiecrat Thurmond concentrated the mind wonderfully for sensible folk on the left. That was a four-way race: nothing like it has ever been seen since.


"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[cwydro]

37. No.

We have plenty of qualified women and/or POC.

[comradebillyboy]

39. She and only she gets to make that call.

[Captain Stern]

41. No. Just no.

Michelle Obama has done absolutely nothing to make her a serious consideration for Vice-President.

The VP is just a heartbeat away from being President. There is not a reason to think that Michelle Obama would be a good President, other than the we like her.

I'd go with Michelle Obama, if our bench was absolutely empty. But it's not.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

42. I think she'd move to Europe first

Seriously, I think she's over politics.

[Hekate]

43. Twaddle