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Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:01 PM

 

An excellent message to the Bernie or Bust crowd.


If I were to vote in a presidential
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Reply An excellent message to the Bernie or Bust crowd. (Original post)
showblue22 Mar 14 OP
William769 Mar 14 #1
Thekaspervote Mar 14 #2
still_one Mar 14 #3
NurseJackie Mar 14 #4
Cha Mar 14 #5
sheshe2 Mar 14 #6
betsuni Mar 14 #7
sheshe2 Mar 15 #9
MustLoveBeagles Mar 15 #13
sheshe2 Mar 15 #14
Cha Mar 15 #11
LuvNewcastle Mar 14 #8
BidenBacker Mar 15 #10
MustLoveBeagles Mar 15 #12
sheshe2 Mar 15 #15
emmaverybo Mar 15 #16
videohead5 Mar 15 #17
showblue22 Mar 15 #18
ReformedGOPer Mar 31 #47
James48 Mar 15 #19
showblue22 Mar 15 #21
Withywindle Mar 15 #22
TreasonousBastard Mar 15 #33
ReformedGOPer Mar 31 #48
zak247 Mar 15 #20
Celerity Mar 15 #23
Name removed Mar 15 #24
Hav Mar 15 #28
True Blue American Mar 15 #29
NurseJackie Mar 15 #31
nawaz97 Mar 31 #40
Celerity Mar 31 #41
betsuni Mar 31 #42
Celerity Mar 31 #44
betsuni Mar 31 #46
NurseJackie Mar 31 #43
Celerity Mar 31 #45
Hav Mar 15 #25
Magoo48 Mar 15 #26
True Blue American Mar 15 #30
Magoo48 Mar 15 #35
True Blue American Mar 15 #36
Magoo48 Mar 15 #37
True Blue American Mar 15 #38
Magoo48 Mar 15 #39
samnsara Mar 15 #27
wyldwolf Mar 15 #32
Nikki28 Mar 15 #34
Gothmog Apr 1 #49

Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:10 PM

1. "If you want to be heard, vote. If you don't vote, shut the fuck up!"

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:13 PM

2. I Love her!! Have followed her on twitter for some time...she always nails it

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:38 PM

3. An excellent message to all

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:39 PM

4. Wow! Thank you!

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:44 PM

5. Tell It, Tynisa! Retweeted!

 

Thank you!
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:50 PM

6. Well, Dayum.

 

Nailed it.

Vote or STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

7. The ones who kept telling us that Obama was going to do things no Democratic president

 

would ever do, like start unnecessary wars and eliminate social safety nets. Then they told us Hillary was more dangerous than Trump and would do things no Democratic president would ever do, like start unnecessary wars and not regulate Wall Street. Now they're telling us Biden is going to do things no Democratic president would ever do, like start unnecessary wars and eliminate social safety nets.



Loved her rant!
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Response to betsuni (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:04 AM

9. ummmm

 



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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:46 AM

13. Awesome gif

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #13)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:50 AM

14. Ha!

 

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Response to betsuni (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:37 AM

11. I know.. Tynisa Logic is Classic!

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

8. If someone says Bernie or Bust to me, I'm going to say,

 

'so bust.'
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:36 AM

10. Sharp Gal

 

Gonna go out on a limb and pencil her in as a vote for Joe.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:45 AM

12. K&R

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:52 AM

15. K&R

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:11 AM

16. "Your high sparrow!" I love it. Bernie as The High Sparrow. Brilliant,

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:22 AM

17. I was attacked on Twitter

 

The other day when Biden did his town hall a Bernie Bro posted something about Biden walking off camera and that he has Alzheimer's he never really walked off camera just turned away and then came back. I responded with you Bernie Bro's sound like Trumpsters and I was attacked by over 20 people. Biden is no different than Trump is mostly what I got. I can't believe they believe that BS?
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Response to videohead5 (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:50 AM

18. Yes, me too..

 

They tell me I get my information for MSM, I tell then they get theirs from Youtube. Lol
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Response to videohead5 (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:05 AM

47. Agree

 

The hard core Berners can be just as vile as the MAGAs. I've been the target (on twitter) of many of these nuts. You can never have a conversation with them without them calling me names. They usually start the name calling when I give them facts that they can't refute.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:02 AM

19. Not a single Sanders support on here yet?

 

Hmmm.

Well, I guess that tells you how many
are likely to weigh in to say that angry
directions to “conform or else” aren’t going
go over very well.

Bernie supporters are, for the most part, going to cast their votes in November for whoever the nominee becomes.

But that isn’t Joe’s problem.

Joe’s real problem is going to be
Persuading the rest of America to come along. And it’s that issue that Bernie supporters recognize is going to be Joe’s biggest battle.

Good luck with that.
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Response to James48 (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:09 AM

21. They seem to be coming out for Joe just fine. nt

 

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Response to James48 (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 03:28 AM

22. I just mailed in my IL ballot for Bernie

 

And I will say this. Bernie supporters aren't the problem per se.

People who refuse to vote for Biden in November if he's the nominee ARE the problem, regardless of who they supported in the primaries. (I have also heard this from Harris, Warren, Buttigieg supporters.)

ESPECIALLY in a time of crisis, I think people have a moral duty to show up and vote for the candidate whose policies are likeliest to kill a few fewer people than the other one. Voting isn't just a statement FOR your fave - if your fave didn't make it through the primaries, of the two candidates left standing, you have a responsibility to show up and vote AGAINST the worst one. The lives of many of our most vulnerable citizens depend on it. There are many people dead who'd be alive now if Al Gore had won. There are many people dead who'd be alive now if John Kerry had won. There are many people dead who'd be alive now if Hillary Clinton had won. There are many people in danger now who might survive a Biden presidency, but definitely won't survive a Trump second term.
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Response to James48 (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:19 AM

33. I have no idea how many Berniebots will in the end support Joe, but Bernie's problem is...

 

to explain to the cogent electorate just what his plans really are.

He's been talking this shit since the '60s and has nothing to show for it after over 30 years in Congress.

Nothing. Nada. Not even the respect of his fellow Senators. This is what's leading a "revolution"?
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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:06 AM

48. +1

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:08 AM

20. Oh Yeah

 

This is something I want to use on those Bernie fanatics. It a Jewell
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 05:39 AM

23. roflmaoooooo ... having a Bernie tantrum cuz we didn't elect your High Sparrow

 



probably the best line of the entire primaries

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Response to Name removed (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:32 AM

28. Link to his plans?

 

For quite some time, he wouldn't even know or say how much his plans would cost. He probably had no idea how to finance those and I go a step further, he probably never believed himself they'd become a reality or that they'd get through Congress.

I saw one of his "explanations" for how to pay for his plans and it was laughable, seemingly making up numbers and oversimplifying things at every step.
For example, he claims to generate or save trillions with supposedly millions of new jobs in the health sector. Those just come out of nowhere. And while I support every effort to fight climate change, the same kind of fantasy and simplified thinking was the case for the 20 million new jobs created by the new green deal. There is just no basis to just simply add up these numbers, even if they were accurate, and treat them as new income and that they come with no cost to other sectors. He's insulting the intelligence of his followers by engaging in his interpretation of Bernie math.
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Response to Name removed (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:36 AM

29. Problem is

 

Bernie can not pay for his freebies. Young people are smart enough to understand that.

Biden is not getting all these endorsements and votes for nothing.

I especially was impressed with that Fireside chat around an old stove I have not seen in use since I grew up in the country. Not! And Certainly do not want to give up my gas furnace for that!
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Response to Name removed (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:45 AM

31. His plans go like this... "Step 1: Revolution"

 

et's make it clear. Bernie has a clear strategy that shows how each of it is going to be paid for.
His plans go like this... "Step 1: Revolution"

It's all predicated on some sort of Socialist Revolution where the GOP ceases to exist and reasonable or moderate Democrats also cease to exist. That's not going to happen.

There's no backup plan. There's no plan-B. He doesn't compromise or negotiate, we all know that, he and his followers boast about it often. So without a backup plan and lacking the willingness to seek common ground and mutual benefit... and without the ability to accept incremental progress... the status quo remains. Nothing happens.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #31)

Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:06 AM

40. Biden's compromise on clear answers

 

Time and again we see gafs by Biden, that's a little scary.
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Response to nawaz97 (Reply #40)

Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:03 AM

41. welcome to DU, and what is a 'gaf'?

 

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Response to Celerity (Reply #41)

Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:09 AM

42. Evidently, it is scary for some reason, like the word "compromise."

 

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Response to betsuni (Reply #42)

Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:23 AM

44. I know what a gaffe is, was wondering about gaf

 

And..

Oh the irony of it all.

Lolol
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Response to Celerity (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:43 AM

46. Seeing an awful lot of bad English lately.

 

For some reason.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #41)

Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:14 AM

43. The anti-Biden talking point from about 8 weeks ago.

 

I guess that poster feels like they need to run through the list in order, I don't know. Next thing you know, Biden will be accused of being "senil" and then accused of "rap".

Argh.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #43)

Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:25 AM

45. Lolol at senil

 

Gaf
Senil

The Russian school of English grammar is slipping.

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:06 AM

25. Bravo

 

Sadly, she's addressing people who are acting both irrationally and angry. Otherwise, they wouldn't equate the outcome of a Biden presidency with Trump's. I wouldn't even know how to get through to them because arguments wouldn't work. I hope their numbers are small but for some it's either "I want my pony or the whole world shall burn".
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:12 AM

26. Anyone who doesn't vote blue no matter who is a fool.

 

That said, her inaccurate description of Bernie’s platform is tired, moderate horseshit and unnecessary to her message.
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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #26)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:39 AM

30. Tired?

 

From a young person? No, she is dealing with the reality of trillion dollar deficits.
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Response to True Blue American (Reply #30)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:10 AM

35. The national debt will never be paid off. Deficits will fluctuate but never be eliminated without

 

systemic societal change, a global psychic realignment, which btw is exactly what is needed for next generations to have a relatively livable world to inhabit. Unless Our Climate Crisis is taken seriously (nothing worthy of labeling a beginning to date) the debts and deficits will be null, mute jokes mocking us for believing their undeserved gravitas was even relevant considering the importance of the next decade. Think I’m over the top? Investigate the latest science.
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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #35)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:14 AM

36. Funny thing, but

 

I seem to remember President Clinton and Newt Gingrich shutting down the debt clock, beginning to pay down our debt.

Then the Republican Supreme Court chose Bush. Is you memory that short? We now have trillion dollar deficits.
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Response to True Blue American (Reply #36)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:24 AM

37. It will never happen, it can't happen in the timeframe required.

 

Crunch the numbers. We have less than a decade to make massive beginnings across a spectrum we cannot even clearly see yet.

Liz and Bernie, were my choices, because I believe they are the two candidates willing to open the door a crack to the monumental efforts needed.
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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #37)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:28 AM

38. Wishful thinking.

 

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #38)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:41 AM

39. I am not yet ready to roll over for business as it was. I will advocate for what

 

our latest science says is needed, because I want my grandchildren and their families to have a livable world.

My motto: blue no matter who but continue to push left and continue to question everything.
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:17 AM

27. im hoping it will go the way of the PUMA

 

..wow I love her!
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:46 AM

32. African-Americans and Never Trumpers will more than make up for the Bernie or Busters

 

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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:25 AM

34. I have never

 

never seen this person anywhere , but bravo. I would say that to whomever wins. I think what Bernie Bros need to be doing is putting all their anger at Donald J Trump and stop making fools of themselves going after the wrong target. Their priorities are in the wrong place. Their anger would be better served going after the maga because their personalities are too similar and would make us on equal footing on the maga nuts. Glad all groups are not like this, just like Bernie real fans are not this bad. There are bad apples in all groups, but this kind of bitterness is worst that what DT is doing to this couple because you are choosing his side instead of the Democratic party.This is one fear I had with Bernie running yet again.Time to put his resources together and help bring Trump down
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Response to showblue22 (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2020, 06:26 PM

49. The benefit of the Democrats denouncing Sanders's selfishness

 

I am tired of sanders and his supporters demanding that we bend a knee and anoint sanders as the nominee. It may be better to simply give up on the 15% who will not vote for any real Democrat and move on



If you are in the search for silver linings, one benefit of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) pointlessly continuing his losing campaign is the freedom for Democrats to denounce him and his anti-party escapades. After years of humoring him, the vast majority of Democrats, from super-progressives to moderates, can now say out loud what they’ve said quietly: It has always been about Bernie. It’s not a movement, but rather a vanity project. ....

The problem, according to many Democrats, remains that 15 percent of Sanders supporters say in polling that they would vote for President Trump over Biden. This nugget actually makes the opposite argument: There is nothing that would satisfy some faction of the Sanders coalition that would rather blow up our democracy and reelect Trump. With people so irrational, the best response is to ignore them. They, like the MAGA-hat crowd, are unreachable and cannot be bargained with (e.g., more New Green Deal talk!). So do not try. No more outreach to Sanders, no more promised policy modifications, no more speaking slot at the convention. Enough

This would have some salutary effects.

First, it would make perfectly clear that Biden is not Sanders and not a crazy left-winger, as Trump would like to paint him in the campaign. Biden makes a sharp distinction between the “democratic socialist” crowd and his own brand of center-left politics. Since he cannot get the 15 percent of “Bernie or Bust” Democrats (or independents), he might as well make a strong play for moderate independents and disaffected Republicans. Cutting Sanders off effectively allows Biden to pitch to gettable swing voters, not waste time on unattainable Bernie Bros.

Second, freezing out Sanders will make governance in a Biden administration much easier and more cohesive. There will be no debt to be paid to Sanders, no advisers taken on to satisfy Sanders, and no weird and distracting policy initiatives to lead the new administration astray. This would be a center-left administration confident of its own governing agenda — and personally cohesive.

Third, it would free up constructive, smart progressive leaders such as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) to lead that wing of the party. She has already begun that process, contributing bankruptcy and student loan forgiveness plans to the Biden campaign. With a practical, crafty progressive in the Senate (hopefully in the majority and able to lead on legislation), Biden would be able to broaden his appeal and cultivate allies in the Warren wing of the party.

In other words, shoving Sanders offstage opens up room for party builders and party reformers, putting aside unattainable proposals (e.g., Medicare-for-all) in favor of a smarter, more broadly acceptable agenda. (Biden would not need to fend off a Warren primary challenge, as Barack Obama did with Sanders in 2012.)

The party is never going to make the 15% to 25% of sanders supporters happy. 25% of sanders supporters either voted for trump, voted for a third party candidate like Stein or stayed home


I am tired of trying to appease sanders supporters who are not going to be happy and there are real benefits in moving on and ignoring these voters.
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