Democratic Primaries
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
demmiblue
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After 9/11 we all said we were changed. That we were stronger and more united. Thats what never forget was about. Now, a president uses that dark day to incite his base against a member of Congress, as if for sport. As if we learned nothing that day about the workings of hate.
That day, some people did this: killed thousands of Americans in order to try to make us smaller, more divided and less free. To weaken us by distancing us from our own values through fear and anger. This is the function of terrorism.
I served overseas, at risk to my life, in the struggle against such terrorism. But it can only be fully defeated if we have leaders at home who defuse its capacity to sow hatehate against Islam or against any number of others.
The president today made America smaller. It is not enough to condemn him; we must model something better.
The threats against the life of @IlhanMN make clear what is at stake if we fail to to do this, and to beat back hate in all all its forms.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
olegramps
(8,200 posts)This is an absolute nightmare. I hope that when I awaken it has just been that darn spicy sausage that tasted so good. This can't being happening. God isn't that cruel. We must have done something to really bad to piss Him off this time. The Great Flood, plagues in Egypt, now its the Trumpitis plague twisting the minds of millions into a caldron churning with blind hatred.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Penn Voter
(247 posts)it will be up to Satan. What is taking Satan so long?!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)You can't defeat it without first acknowledging the harsh realities of life. But you also can't give into the hate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,987 posts)If God calls Trump "home," that new home will be even warmer than Merde-a-Loco in July.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatrickforO
(14,604 posts)...if the merciful God has called Trump home.
Still chuckling.
It isn't funny, though. We live in 'interesting' times - dangerous yet rife with opportunity. The old Chinese curse, you know.
I'm a big believer in Karma, but that it happens over many lifetimes. When a certain Karma based on something you did at some point in your existance ripens, then you get the opportunity to work through it.
When I was a kid, the social contract was that you'd do good in school, keep your nose clean and get as much education as you could. Then you'd go to work and make your career at one company - and that company would take care of you - healthcare, pension and so on, until you retired, then you'd have Social Security, your pension and Medicare.
Unfortunately, like most Americans our age, I kept my nose to the grindstone and didn't really worry much about who was in power, because I had faith that no one would do anything too insane. Or at least I hoped.
I woke up in 2000 when Bush stole the election from Gore. I began to be active in 2004, when Bush stole the election from Kerry. I was active in 2008 and subsequently - in my local Democratic party, on social media, calling my US Senators and Representative regularly about issues, writing them, signing petitions, donating money and so on.
But I have to go back and reference something you said that just hit me. You said, "God isn't that cruel."
When I read that, as a student of history and of politics, my mind was drawn back to slavery, the genocide against the Native Americans, Vietnam, Argentina's dirty war, in Chile under Pinochet - the list goes on year after cruel year, where we have literally destroyed whole other peoples for the sake of greed and 'business interests.'
Was God cruel to the people of those civilizations the Northern Europeans, and then the North Americans destroyed? The millions of Native Americans - Aztecs, Incas, Arapahos, Cheyenne, Iroquois? The millions of Vietnamese? The 350,000 Iraqis, Afghans and Pakistani civilians who have died since 911 at the point of the American sword of war - in our initial 'shock and awe' campaign and then the surge, the drone actions?
I fear our hands are quite bloody, and selfishly, I hope that the chickens don't come home to roost. These white nationalist Trump supporters - they are the kind of people that cheered as whole peoples, whole civilizations died under the lash, at the tip of the bloody bayonet, on the ground under the carpet bombs.
It may be that we can still recover IF we get rid of Trump, get good people in office and hold them accountable, then begin having conversations around reparations and coming to terms with the darkness in our past, then perhaps we can become the light on the hill, the world leader in saving the planet from the depredations of capitalism and the primacy of the shareholder.
So, you think enough of us will be noble in our hearts and step forward to end the American Empire, save the American Republic and reshape that Republic to what it CAN be if we just do it?
Or, will we remain just a bunch of lemmings and run off the cliff to end up as little more than a footnote in the great scheme of cosmic creation?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pangaia
(24,324 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tymorial
(3,433 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Ohiogal
(32,189 posts)Trump is the meanest, dumbest, asshole on earth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
backtoblue
(11,348 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pangaia
(24,324 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
artislife
(9,497 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
demmiblue
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
artislife
(9,497 posts)There should be hundreds more, but Amy has risen in my eyes because of this tweet. Jay is my Governor so I know who he is and Bernie was my choice last election so I know who he is. Beto is young so he SHOULD be saying this, if we believe in evolving species!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nanjeanne
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We need the Dem leadership to have the courage of Sanders and Warren to lead in this matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
demmiblue
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I was in New York on 9/11. I remember walking uptown away from the WTC in a crowd of thousands. Remembering 9/11 does not mean inciting hostility toward Muslim-Americans who are just as American as anyone else. As President I would bring us together. We are all one country. 👍🇺🇸
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
artislife
(9,497 posts)I am getting a better feeling about our side. The words are straight forward and strong.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PatrickforO
(14,604 posts)Their strategy seems to be stating they used to be Democrats, but since all we do is slander...blah, blah, blah, they are now Republican. One even said the 'scales' had fallen from his eyes.
I wonder if they get a nickel a pop, or if that is just an urban legend.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,707 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
demmiblue
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So far, no comments from: Biden, Booker, Delaney & Gabbard
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided