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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:50 PM Mar 2020

The expectations for Biden in the debate are so absurdly low.

His detractors desperately want to see him debate and flounder. "More tears are shed over answered prayers than answered ones."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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The expectations for Biden in the debate are so absurdly low. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 OP
will joe shout and yell and wave all around to get attention? not likely. on the other hand... nt msongs Mar 2020 #1
Joe will be good ole Joe. honest.abe Mar 2020 #2
I imagine his advisors are saying just one thing to him OKNancy Mar 2020 #3
He essentially won the last 2 debates using his vast experience to just answer the questions Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #4
Joe Biden dominated Paul Ryan PatSeg Mar 2020 #5
Do you think Biden still looks this energetic? LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #6
Have you looked at Bernie lately? True Blue American Mar 2020 #7
He really doesn't seem much different. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #8
It actually makes me nervous PatSeg Mar 2020 #12
Maybe not as energetic PatSeg Mar 2020 #11
Yes, Bernie is repetitious. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #19
I like this photo BidenBacker Mar 2020 #9
What a great photo PatSeg Mar 2020 #13
Honestly BidenBacker Mar 2020 #15
I really want this primary to be over PatSeg Mar 2020 #16
Biden is good one on one, radius777 Mar 2020 #10
And Joe still has the knowledge and experience PatSeg Mar 2020 #14
I'm done watching debates. nt. BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #17
Good Todd79 Mar 2020 #18
 

msongs

(67,395 posts)
1. will joe shout and yell and wave all around to get attention? not likely. on the other hand... nt
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:53 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,677 posts)
2. Joe will be good ole Joe.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:56 PM
Mar 2020

Smile and laugh and basically brush off any harsh comments from Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
3. I imagine his advisors are saying just one thing to him
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:59 PM
Mar 2020

Act Presidential.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
4. He essentially won the last 2 debates using his vast experience to just answer the questions
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:59 PM
Mar 2020

And, being himself

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
5. Joe Biden dominated Paul Ryan
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:01 PM
Mar 2020

during a vice presidential debate in 2012.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
6. Do you think Biden still looks this energetic?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020

I do not. I think another debate, just one on one, is worthwhile. Bernie won't have anything new. The risk is low. I would like to see more of Joe.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
7. Have you looked at Bernie lately?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:09 PM
Mar 2020

Red face, always angry, recent heart attack?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
8. He really doesn't seem much different.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:11 PM
Mar 2020

He was always waving his hands.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
12. It actually makes me nervous
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:32 PM
Mar 2020

knowing that he recently had a heart attack. His doctor must be very concerned. I don't think this is the sort of life style that doctors recommend for a 78 year old heart attack survivor.

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PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
11. Maybe not as energetic
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:30 PM
Mar 2020

but he's still sharp. Meanwhile, Bernie's default mode during most debates is to resort to campaign stump speeches. We've all heard them before.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
19. Yes, Bernie is repetitious.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:32 PM
Mar 2020

I don't expect a surprise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
9. I like this photo
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:16 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.mediaite.com/news/new-poll-joe-biden-takes-lead-in-washington-state-which-bernie-sanders-won-by-landslide-in-2016/

I guess the further out Bernie flails his arms the more Joe has to bring his in to keep everything in harmonic balance.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
13. What a great photo
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:35 PM
Mar 2020

Really shows the contrast.

In one debate when Biden was speaking, he paused and said, "Quit waving at me Bernie". The camera didn't show Bernie flailing his arms while Joe spoke, but he was quick to point it out. I laughed out loud as we all knew what he was talking about.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
15. Honestly
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:50 PM
Mar 2020

I hardly watched any of the debates. Maybe all of the first one, some of the second and practically nothing after that. I don't enjoy watching Dems attack each other and promote themselves. "I was the only one here who..." ad nauseam got too tedious for me. I'd instead watch all of the post-debate coverage and that was plenty good enough for me.

I just want Joe not to fuck up in the next debate, blow Bernie out next Tuesday and then start pivoting towards Trump. Bernie can do whatever the hell he wants while the vast majority of people ignores him as he becomes increasingly irrelevant.

It didn't have to be this way and not what I wanted but it is what it is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
16. I really want this primary to be over
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:54 PM
Mar 2020

Things are getting so ugly and it isn't good for anyone aside from Trump and republicans in congress. Meanwhile, the worse things get for Bernie, the more he doubles down. I'm afraid that he will leave the race with no dignity left and it didn't have to be that way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

radius777

(3,635 posts)
10. Biden is good one on one,
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:26 PM
Mar 2020

better than when he's in a chaotic multi-person debate where he seems to get bored/tired.

Even though Biden has lost a step he still has a charm/wit he often uses to great effect, the way Reagan used to, who was also underestimated due to his age and memory lapses.

Bernie says 'Joe must explain...' well Bernie has never really explained how he will pay for his massively expensive ($60 trillion) plans, how he would get them passed, etc.

Bernie also has no sense of humor and often gets rattled. He falsely believes he's some great debater (he's not) and that Biden's some fool (he's not).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
14. And Joe still has the knowledge and experience
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:36 PM
Mar 2020

He just doesn't always express them as well as he used to. Sometimes, he seems like his mouth can't keep up with the workings of his mind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
17. I'm done watching debates. nt.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:57 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Todd79

(166 posts)
18. Good
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:08 PM
Mar 2020

We’ve seen him absolutely dismantle Palin (who wasn’t much of a challenger). He also dismantled Paul Ryan, who may have looked like Eddie Munster but had some intellectual heft.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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