Biden is already ahead in the Primary popular vote by about 1.5 million votes.

[MineralMan]

It's still early in the primary season, too. The numbers will increase, as will the gap, as more primaries are held.

Joseph Robinette "Joe" Biden, Jr. 7,303,032 37.72%
Bernard "Bernie" Sanders 5,858,189 30.26%

That is reflected in The Green Papers latest delegate count estimates, too:

Biden - 885
Sanders - 732

https://www.thegreenpapers.com/P20/D

[mikeysnot]

1. Magic number is 1991...

And then there are all the uncounted votes in CA.

Our elections processes needs an enema.

The current system big money always wins.

[TwilightZone]

2. "The current system big money always wins."

Then why isn't the candidate who has raised more and spent more - in some states, 30 times more - winning?

That being said, we should get dark money out of politics. Start with Our Revolution.

https://apnews.com/345bbd1af529cfb1e41305fa3ab1e604

[mikeysnot]

12. Big donars as apposed to smal donors...

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=657796

No I just sick of the double standards...

[TwilightZone]

17. Our Revolution has accepted donations beyond the maximum and hasn't disclosed most donors.

So we really have no idea who the donors are or how much they've donated.

And neither do you. All we know is that they've received many donations exceeding the federal limits.

"The campaign finance act says groups established by federal officeholders or candidates cannot raise money for federal electoral activity that exceeds the limitations of the law. Those contributions are currently set at $2,800 for candidates and $5,000 for political action committees.

Our Revolution has taken in nearly $1 million from donors whose contributions exceeded those limits and whose identities it hasn’t fully disclosed, according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018. Much of it came from donors who contributed six-figure sums.

https://apnews.com/cd7a58676b6fc8cbe2f9783f469d0bee

[MineralMan]

28. Hmm...sounds like you're not going to accept anyone but Sanders

as the Democratic nominee. That's what it sounds like to me. Senator Sanders is not going to be the 2020 Democratic nominee. That is clear at this point. It's time to shift to general election mode, actually. Can you do that?

[emmaverybo]

3. Biden did not have big money. Sanders had much more. It is Biden's campaign that most

resembled grass roots.

[emmaverybo]

20. How very rude!

[HarlanPepper]

25. With the end near there is lashing out.

I do love it when one that’s been silent the entire primary comes out to play.

[Dem2]

31. True

People were laughing and laughing last night on MSNBC how Biden had essentially run no ads and had few rallies cuz he had no money.

If that's not grass roots support, then I don't know what is.

[tman]

4. Biden is closing the gap in CA

Also, at every stage of this campaign, Bernie has raised and spent more money than Biden.

Sometimes the blame lays with the actual candidate.

[mikeysnot]

14. GLWT

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=657796

[William769]

5. "The current system big money always wins."

The current system disagrees with you.

[Happy Hoosier]

8. Ummm.... Bernie had a LOT more money than Joe....

And yeah, Joe will just keep closing the gap in CA.

[mikeysnot]

10. Sorry for your confusion

Big money is not dollar amounts but the source of the money. Bernies was all small donations from the peoples money.

forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2019/12/07/here-are-the-billionaires-backing-joe-bidens-presidential-campaign/#70730825159e

https://theintercept.com/2019/10/25/joe-biden-super-pac/

http://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/contributors?id=N00001669

[Happy Hoosier]

11. LOL... it never ends with you folks...

It's always something else that is the problem. Never the candidate. Never the policies.

[mikeysnot]

15. Project much?

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....

Wow, I got jury post removed for using the word BULLSHIT as a personal attack.

Someone is sensitive.

[George II]

30. Hundreds of small donations from the same person equals big dollars.

[Tarheel_Dem]

9. That would be a great talking point if it were true, but like so many coming from your camp....

it just isn't. Sorry.

[mikeysnot]

16. GLWT

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No silly, not a threat.

[Tarheel_Dem]

19. Is that a threat?

[MineralMan]

21. Why all the animosity in this thread?

Biden was almost out of money by the time South Carolina voted. Most people were counting him out, but the voters in South Carolina spoke and he begin his rapid rise.

It wasn't money that led him to his current lead. It was voters. That's a grassroots thing, by definition.

Bernie just didn't turn out enough voters when it mattered.

[pandr32]

29. + 1,000,000,000

[MineralMan]

22. That's true, and Joe Biden is heading there faster than Bernie.

As for money, Bernie and Bloomberg, who is no longer in the race, have spent way more than Biden, who was almost out of campaign funds until South Carolina.

What hasn't changed is the fact that voters make the decisions, and they're deciding for Biden. Bernie Sanders isn't getting the turnout of supporters he needed to win. Biden is.

So, yes, 1991 is the target. Biden will reach it before the convention.

[HarlanPepper]

23. Bernie has raised and spent more than Biden at this point

Try living in reality.

[getagrip_already]

6. The madness needs to end - bernie needs to suspend his campaign....

Enough is enough.

All he is going to do is hand trump another election.

[Turin_C3PO]

18. I'll give him till next Wednesday.

Let him proceed for another week so more of his supporters have a chance to vote for him. It will become even more clear when Biden wins those states by wide margins that Bernie doesn’t have a mathematical possibility of gaining the nomination. If Sanders doesn’t drop out by then, I’m going to be very disappointed in him.

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. That is massive, and when you add FL & GA to the tally, it's stacking up to be a blowout. n/t

[MineralMan]

24. Yes, I think so, too.

Biden's current momentum is real and is likely to carry him to a pledged delegate majority before the convention.

[Tarheel_Dem]

26. I hope the pledged delegate majority will help most of Sanders' supporters accept the will of..

the voters.

[MineralMan]

27. Most Sanders supporters will vote for and support the Democratic nominee.

Some will not, but they weren't really working on having a Democratic nominee in the first place. The Sanders campaign high level staff is made up of people who either did not vote in 2016 or voted for Jill Stein. That has been the largest flaw in the Sanders campaign this year. His grassroots is made up, in part, of people who are not Democrats at all, but are, rather, non-party-affiliated people on the far left, politically.

We are going to have to win without a small minority of Sanders supporters. Most people who were supporting him will vote for the Democratic nominee.