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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:25 PM

 

The DNC won't make the same "mistake" as the RNC

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-buttigieg-dropped-out/?fb_comment_id=3201312246548935_3202963463050480&comment_id=3202963463050480


The Buttigieg departure, in fact, suggests that the Democratic Party establishment has learned some lessons from how GOP party elites allowed President Trump to win the Republican nomination over their objections four years ago. Perhaps Democratic elites are still organized and influential enough to affect party politics. In the time between the Nevada caucuses and today, you heard a bit of a freakout from Democrats concerned about nominating a democratic socialist to take on Trump. But that freakout resulted in some actions — prominent figures in the party urged some candidates to drop out and endorsed Biden.


In other words the GOP establishment failed to keep the nomination from an outsider who understood the mood of the electorate. The GOP establishment paid the price of their failure, winning the white house. The Democratic establishment won't make the same mistake.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:28 PM

1. Are you insinuating that Bernie appeals to the electorate better than Biden does?

 

Because the vote last night seems to make it fairly clear which candidate is preference of the voters.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:30 PM

2. It would seem that the Democratic "establishment" consists of actual voters.

 

What a concept.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:30 PM

3. The best sign that a candidate appeals to an electorate is that the electorate votes for them

 

Apparently, the electorate all across the country thinks that Biden understands them better than his opponents do.

OP fail.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:32 PM

4. This discounts the big difference between Republican and Democratic voters..

 

Republican voters fall in line like sheeple while democratic voters have to be courted, wined and dined to win them over.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:33 PM

5. A Bigger Issue.

 

What will independents, seldom voters, third party voters and never trumpers do in November?
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Response to MarcA (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:53 PM

8. Vote for Biden, unless they want 4 more years of trump. n/t

 

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:34 PM

6. What an insulting crock of crap

 

Real voters have their votes to Biden. We weren't coerced into those votes, we weren't paid off by some "establishment". Real life voters. Record numbers of voters in some states. This post is insulting and completely untrue
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:45 PM

7. what a horrible post. are you really trying to promote sanders as our party's trump??

 

first, donnie is not someone who "understood the mood of the electorate". what he understood was that cheating was acceptable for republicans, lying was acceptable for republicans, and that the media would promote him as long as he provided them with shock/hate entertainment. this largely because a sizable minority of the country had been brainwashed and primed for that sort of thing.

second, a party and that party's *establishment* are not the same thing, something that sanders recently noted, and a distinction that his critics have blurred in order to attack him. the gop establishment did *not* want donnie to be the nominee, only in part because they thought he might lose the general election (which, face it, he would have if he hadn't cheated), but also because the *establishment* would lose out even if donnie won.

in fact, the gop *establishment*, or what was the establishment before donnie took over, is largely sidelined and cowering in fear. yeah, there's a republican in the party, but he's a monster they can't control, which is not at all what the gop *establishment* wanted.


finally, i really don't think you want to draw any parallels here with sanders. i don't think that benefits anyone at all, least of all sanders.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:06 PM

9. It's wonder that Sanders hasn't brought more Democrats on board

 

I mean, with his nonstop insulting of the "Democratic establishment" and (some of) his acolytes' nonstop insulting of everyone who doesn't "feel the Bern," it's hard to imagine how he has failed to win the full impassioned support of the entire party.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:13 PM

10. GMAFB! This is a stealth accusation of "rigged primaries"...one of Trump's favorite RW talking points.

 

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:44 PM

11. Let's see if I have this right

 

I am supposed to vote for Bernie Sanders because a man who’s been in Congress thirty years isn’t a “Washington insider”?
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:47 PM

12. That's exactly why we have the superdelegates that Bernie despises so much

 

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:51 PM

13. VOTERS don't want socialism nearly as much as they want to get rid of Trump. nt

 

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