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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:46 AM

 

NY, OH, MI, NJ, PA, FL, IL; This is far from over

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided

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Reply NY, OH, MI, NJ, PA, FL, IL; This is far from over (Original post)
jg10003 Mar 2020 OP
Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #1
HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #18
Squinch Mar 2020 #30
TwilightZone Mar 2020 #42
lapucelle Mar 2020 #56
NYMinute Mar 2020 #58
Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #65
lapucelle Mar 2020 #80
LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #71
lapucelle Mar 2020 #79
SaschaHM Mar 2020 #2
LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #67
vercetti2021 Mar 2020 #3
SaschaHM Mar 2020 #5
calimary Mar 2020 #25
zackymilly Mar 2020 #40
LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #68
Zambero Mar 2020 #78
beachbumbob Mar 2020 #4
NYMinute Mar 2020 #59
beachbumbob Mar 2020 #86
Hav Mar 2020 #6
beachbumbob Mar 2020 #11
LovingA2andMI Mar 2020 #7
tishaLA Mar 2020 #8
pnwmom Mar 2020 #9
murielm99 Mar 2020 #10
beachbumbob Mar 2020 #12
murielm99 Mar 2020 #17
beachbumbob Mar 2020 #19
blue-wave Mar 2020 #15
greatauntoftriplets Mar 2020 #81
DemKittyNC Mar 2020 #13
Sancho Mar 2020 #14
Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #66
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Blue_true Mar 2020 #82
HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #16
BidenBacker Mar 2020 #20
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True Blue American Mar 2020 #29
MH1 Mar 2020 #47
LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #72
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RelativelyJones Mar 2020 #24
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:49 AM

1. That looks like a Murderers' Row for Bernie Sanders

 

Biden might get a delegate
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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:23 AM

18. Well, at least he won't have spent $500 million to do it.

 



Bloombergís face plant will be laughed at for years. Rudy Gís 2008 campaign is off the hook when it comes to money and delegate futility.
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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 06:29 AM

30. Will you find Bloomberg laughable when he puts all that money behind Joe?

 

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:03 AM

42. I assume that's sarcasm.

 

Florida isn't going to Sanders. The only one on the list he won in 2016 was MI. It'll be interesting to see if even that holds.
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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:01 PM

56. I don't think BS will win NY. N/T

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #56)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:04 PM

58. Of those states, the only place where Bernie has a tiny chance is Michigan

 

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #58)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:38 PM

65. Also...they seem to forget Georgia and the rest of the Southern states...

 

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #58)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:35 PM

80. I think Biden will win here in NY.

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #56)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:51 PM

71. New York had 247 delegates in 2016.

 

Clinton 139 and Sanders 108.

New York has 274 delegates this year. I wonder how many Biden will get?
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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #71)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:33 PM

79. More than BS. N/T

 

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:50 AM

2. It's not, but with the exception of MI, those are states that Bernie lost in 2016.

 

If Biden's coalition holds, he's going to do well in those states. If Warren stays in the race, he's going to do really really well in those states.

Biden's doing well with white voters while holding a large lead w/ AA voters. Those states are very kind to him.
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Response to SaschaHM (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:42 PM

67. And Sanders won Michigan by just over 17,000 votes.

 

Netting 4 votes more than Clinton in 2016.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:51 AM

3. Lmao Florida isn't going to Bernie

 

He screwed that chance with his Cuba comments
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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:55 AM

5. None of those states should be that kind to Sanders.

 

With the exception of MI, Hillary won those states and Biden's over performing while Sanders is under performing. Not to mention, Warren is still going to be around. Heck, smart money would be on Joe in MI.
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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:18 AM

25. Florida's gone with those Castro comments.

 

Just a guess.
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Response to calimary (Reply #25)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:52 AM

40. Yep. 70% of Cuban Americans live in Florida. n/t

 

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:44 PM

68. I wonder how many Sanders will get in Florida?

 

In 2016 it was Clinton 141 and Sanders 73. There are 219 delegates up for grabs this year.
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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #68)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:33 PM

78. Bernie has the pro-Castro vote locked up

 

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:51 AM

4. I dare say that sanders outspent biden by what percentage to get COLLOBERED?

 

The democratic voter has spoken and they aint buying what sanders is selling.

Th greatest political turnaround I have seen in nearly 50 years of participation in voting
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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:05 PM

59. 20:1

 

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #59)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:33 AM

86. we can safely say that sanders is a big money SPENDER AND WASTER right?

 

and Biden spends frugally and WINS!!!

I know I want a smart guy with money running things not some one that just throws money AWAY to lose
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:56 AM

6. It's not over and tactically it shouldn't be treated as such

 

Voters shouldn't feel that it doesn't matter anymore because that would hurt the coming performances. But what could be seen in many races, BS has trouble persuading more than 30%. You cannot win with that when the moderate vote isn't that distributed over many candidates anymore.

But just a few days ago, there were obnoxious BS is inevitable posts. Those guys are very silent now.
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Response to Hav (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:12 AM

11. sanders has proved in these massive defeats his inability to cross over 35%

 

while spending $$$$. The media hype for sanders is done. The youth vote as always is an illusion. Yelling louder doesn't make winners in primaries nor leadership.

The democratic voters are speaking loud and clear now.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:58 AM

7. Michigan..

 

Is going to Biden after Super Tuesday. Heck, we are even changing our vote to Biden after his full house win Tuesday night.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:00 AM

8. Tonight was a devastating rebuke of BS

 

I'd want to look to other states he'll lose, like FL, if I were one of his fans, too.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:08 AM

9. Okie dokie. nt

 

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:10 AM

10. I'll be voting for Biden in Illinois.

 

So will all my friends.
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Response to murielm99 (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:14 AM

12. the action of sander supporters against Betsy Londrigan sealed his fate with many

 

of the people I know in the Il-13th. The media attempts to force sanders down the throat of the democratic party FAILED
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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:22 AM

17. Yes.

 

Bernie Bros trapped her in her car and screamed at her. They would not let her leave. Scary.

These were not bots, or Russians, BS supporters. They were real, live people, intimidating a good candidate.

They are also trying to primary some good people in Illinois. Some of those races were close and hard-fought. If they screw around enough, we will lose some great new people.

The disgust for the BS supporters spreads far beyond the 13th.
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Response to murielm99 (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:24 AM

19. yep. Their tactics very similar to what we seen from the otherside

 

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:19 AM

15. Me too murielm99!!

 




I'll be voting early. I don't see a Bernie win happening in Illinois or any of the other states mentioned in this post.
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Response to murielm99 (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:47 PM

81. I'm also voting for Biden in the Chicago suburbs.

 

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:15 AM

13. Oh FFS

 

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:16 AM

14. Florida will choose between Bloomberg and Biden...

 

many have already voted by mail.

If Bloomberg gets out then Biden will win Florida.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:42 PM

66. Bloomberg is out.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #66)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:45 PM

69. He is now...many mail-in ballots are already cast..

 

we've had ballots for a couple weeks.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #66)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:30 AM

82. Mailing ballots in Florida start early.

 

Early voting started on March 2 and will continue to March 13. Primary day is March 17. I will early vote sometime next week.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:22 AM

16. A whole bunch of states Biden's going to do very well in.

 

Thanks for the reminder.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:25 AM

20. It's nearer to over than you think

 

I seriously doubt Bernie wins a single one of those states.

I haven't done the math but if Joe runs that table I'm not sure he needs to win many or any other ones.
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Response to BidenBacker (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:30 AM

21. Biden May win them all.

 

Bernie has zero chance in Florida. ZERO. Joe should be favored in PA as well. Someone posted Biden was +6 in Michigan.

GA, MS, LA, KY in the south will all go Biden as well. As mentioned on both CNN and MSNBC the upcoming states are more favorable to Biden than Bernie, false bravado in the OP aside.
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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:39 AM

23. Agree with your analysis

 

Generally speaking I despise the South but I'm sure loving all the Democrats in Dixie tonight.

Biden's a native Pennsylvanian like me...PA and the rest of the Rust Belt loves Joe. I might concede Wisconsin to Sanders but I don't see Bernie winning a single state the OP listed.

I'll sure be glad if/when Joe wins the general in November. Up to now the only President we've ever had from PA was James Buchanon who's generally regarded by presidential historians as the worst POTUS ever. Well, make that the 2nd worst given the buffoon we got in there now.

Joe ain't much of a public speaker but I think he'll make a fine president. I originally supported him back in 2008 but Obama and Hillary sucked all the oxygen outta the room and Biden didn't stand any chance back then. I'm liking his chances a whole lot more after tonight.
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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:55 AM

29. For one state

 

I can only say, watch Sherrod Brown.
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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:22 PM

47. In PA, almost all 2016 Bernie supporters I know, switched to Warren.

 

I haven't checked this week so some may switch back, if they feel they need to pick between Sanders and Biden. BUT, they ditched Sanders for Warren for a reason ... I won't be surprised if a bunch go to Biden, if they switch at all.

Personally I plan to vote for Warren if she is on the ballot. Of course that could change depending how things go, but I won't be voting for Bernie in the primary this time.
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Response to MH1 (Reply #47)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:53 PM

72. Considering what happened in Massachusetts I wouldn't be too sure.

 

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:30 AM

22. Biden is a native son of PA

 

Sorry Bernie
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Response to Freddie (Reply #22)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:44 PM

54. Scranton Joe vs Burlington Bernie? Maybe in Vt but not PA.

 

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:14 AM

24. You're joking right? NY, NJ and IL were some of the biggest Obama states. Biden country for sure.

 

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Response to RelativelyJones (Reply #24)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:00 AM

36. Not to mention PA is Biden's state, and FL HATES Bernie.

 

Itís going to be a massacre.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:30 AM

26. It may be after those states

 

All of which should go to Biden along with several other states in the South you didn't mention.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:32 AM

27. You're OP is the equivalent of opening a door, shouting in some incoherent babble, and running off

 

around the corner, shouting to yourself that YOU SHOWED THEM !

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:43 AM

28. Whatever.

 

Bernie supporters were insisting he would be "uncatchable" after tonight, so I take everything they say deadly seriously.

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 06:30 AM

31. Those are going to be Joe Biden states.

 

Add Georgia to the list as well as the southern states listed in another response up above. Voters, democratic voters, across a wide swath of red, purple and blue states indicated last night that the revolution at the ballot box that's being sold to them isn't what they want. Sanders has not grown his coalition, and he's not going to be the nominee.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 06:41 AM

32. The fat lady is warming up

 

And I predict on St. Patrick day, Joe Biden will be the presumptive nominee.
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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 06:42 AM

33. NJ is a rich state that is unlikely to buy into a socialist revolution. nt

 

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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #33)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:47 PM

60. Actually, NJ is not a "rich" state

 

Most of south and west NJ is conservative and the Dem bastions are in the northeast, centering around Newark, Jersey City, Hudson and Essex Counties. You are talking about a state that in the past has often been a swing state and elected Christie and Whitman twice each, plus Reagan twice and Bush 39 and Bush 41.

The Dem areas have a large black population and a ton of Latinos, including a very large contingent of Cuban Americans in Hudson County (Union City).
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Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #60)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:58 PM

61. The vast majority of counties aren't poor like some parts of Essex, Hudson and Camden...

 

And even in those counties, they have some very very high income pockets. Millionaires even.
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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #61)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:14 PM

62. Per capita income is high, but the cost of living is also high

 

I lived in Bergen County, the extreme NE part of NJ. Sure, we had a few towns with mansions and millionaires, but most of the area was middle class, people who commuted to jobs in NYC and took the bus or train to work, hardly high living "rich" people. Incomes are high because the cost of housing and property taxes are through the roof. When I sold my house in Bergen County 4 years ago the price was $500,000 for a 2,300 square foot home on a 75x100 lot and my property taxes were $16,500 per year. I moved to NC and bought a house the same size on 3/4 of an acre for under $200,000 and my taxes are $1,500.

People in NJ are not living high on the hog. Far from it.
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Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #62)

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:27 AM

84. Give me a break. I've been living in NJ for 65+ years. I never said it's rich

 

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because the people are rich. I guess the definition of rich is different for you and I. If I have more than one pair of shoes and one set of cloths, I'm doing okay. If I have food in my cupboard and don't have to go hungry and a roof over my head (albeit not a 500k, 2300 SF) I feel blessed with riches.

NJ is rich to us who don't live in 500k homes in Bergen county, which is considered a rich county.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergen_County%2C_New_Jersey

Bergen County is the most populous county in the U.S. state of New Jersey.[4] As of the 2018 Census estimate, the county's population was 936,692, an increase of 3.5% from the 2010 census,[5][6][7] which in turn represented an increase of 20,998 (2.4%) from the 884,118 counted in the 2000 Census.[8] Located in the northeastern corner of New Jersey and its Gateway Region, Bergen County is part of the New York City Metropolitan Area and is directly across the Hudson River from Manhattan, to which it is connected by the George Washington Bridge.

Bergen County is divided into 70 municipalities, but has no large cities. Its most populous place, with 43,010 residents at the time of the 2010 census, is Hackensack,[9] which is also its county seat.[2] Mahwah covered the largest area of any municipality, at 26.19 square miles (67.8 km2).[9]

In 2015, the county had a per capita personal income of $75,849, the fourth-highest in New Jersey and ranked 45th of 3,113 counties in the United States.[10][11] Bergen County is one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, with a median household income of $81,708 per the 2010 Census, increasing to an estimated $84,677 in 2014, which was almost 18% higher than the $71,919 median statewide.[12] The county hosts an extensive park system totaling nearly 9,000 acres


NJ vs. the Country

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New Jersey's per capita gross state product in 2008 was $54,699, second in the U.S. and above the national per capita gross domestic product of $46,588.[135] Its per capita income was the third highest in the nation with $51,358.[135] In 2018, New Jersey had the highest number of millionaires per capita in the United States (approximately 9% of households), according to a study by Phoenix Marketing International.[28] The state is ranked second in the nation by the number of places with per capita incomes above national average with 76.4%. Nine of New Jersey's counties are among the 100 wealthiest U.S. counties.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 06:55 AM

34. Just eyeing it, Biden will probably win *at least* four to five of those states...

 

...and he could damn near sweep them, depending on how the electorate looks in the rest of them.

Last time around, Sanders always had California in his back pocket in the hopes he could make up a ton of delegates and somehow overtake Hillary; this time around, California will already be out of play and he likely will have *lost* the overall delegate lead on the same day that California voted. No one would have predicted that.

It may just be a slow death for the Sanders campaign from here on out.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 06:59 AM

35. That's an absolutely awful slate of states for Bernie.

 

There was a reason Bernie needed to stop Joeís momentum tonight. The primary calendar gets highly favorable for Joe now. And with already having the delegate lead...itís over.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:14 AM

37. It's over

 

Bloomberg is going to drop out. If that happens, my candidate should drop out too. Then the only question is how ugly do the next three months have to be before Biden wins this. Thatís not a question for Biden.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #37)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:05 AM

41. Hopefully

 

Tomorrow.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:22 AM

38. Let's see ...

 

Sanders lost these states badly or significantly to Clinton:
NY, OH, NJ, GA, FL, PA

He lost IL slightly to Clinton

The only state of that bunch Sanders won against Clinton was MI - in a rust belt that has a bunch of hate for the Clintons due to NAFTA.There's only one poll that has Sanders ahead in MI that was taken before Biden's surge.

In poll of polls taken before Biden's surge, Biden leads Sanders in FL, OH, PA, NJ, GA & MI

There is one lone poll taken before Biden's surge with Sanders ahead in IL

PA is the state Biden was born (Scranton) and initially raised in.

So I do not see where the great green pastures are for Sanders to make up ground on Biden with those states.

Looks like wishful thinking.


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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:51 AM

39. Yes, a lot of big states

 

By the way that was no big rebuke of Sanders at all! He will get delegates in every state.

I see a iot of celebrating before it is really over. Itís an eternity in politics until all the above states have voted. Things sure changed a lot from when Biden was thought done.

I would have stayed classy if Bernie had the lead after yesterday. Letís not forget we need each other despite our differences.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 06:54 PM

43. Not a great map for Bernie

 

He won Michigan in 2016 and may do so again, but Biden will probably be stronger there than Hillary was because he probably has more appeal to white working class voters than she did.

The rest of the map is not great for Bernie. He may do better in New York than he did four years ago, because he's not running against a home state senator, but I still think Biden is more likely to win here.

Florida is going to be really tough for him, between the Castro thing and his support for Palestinian rights.

Biden definitely has the advantage in Pennsylvania, where he grew up and where he embodies a lot of the blue collar voters. OTOH, a poll a couple weeks ago showed Bernie doing better against Trump in PA than Biden, so maybe that will have some impact.

Biden also has a bit of a neighbor advantage in NJ, and I believe that state also went for Clinton in 2016. Democrats there tend to be more well-off than a lot of other states, so that probably plays to Biden's advantage.

Ohio I'm not sure about but I would think it's a better state for Biden overall.

That said, I live in one of the states on your list and I would very much like the chance to have a say in the nominee. I can't stand the media's rush to narrow it to two candidates (so they don't have to spend as much covering many campaigns) and then supporters of whichever candidate is ahead demanding that the other candidate drop out before half the voters get the chance to weigh in.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:09 PM

44. Right. It's only a matter of rearranging the deck chairs.

 

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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:18 PM

45. Which of these can Bernie win?...nt

 

Sid
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:19 PM

46. Joe wins em all or closer to winning them all than losing them all.

 

Florida will be a victory of historic proportions.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:22 PM

48. NY and NJ voters know people who know frump. I do. They want him punished, period.

 

Not taking chances on Bernie.

New Englanders aren't pie-in-the-sky dreamers: We're pragmatists, for the most part. And we cannot risk frump getting independents, again.

These are highly educated electorates, and they learned the hard way in 2016 that the scoundrels will win if we don't all show up. They'll show up.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:25 PM

49. FL and PA are not going to Bernie

 

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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:36 PM

50. Neither is NY

 

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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:36 PM

51. NJ either

 

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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:44 PM

53. Ohio won't go for Bernie either

 

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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:42 PM

52. I got my vote in last week for Biden, he could carry

 

Ohio.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:53 PM

73. I think he could carry Ohio too...he was very popular in Ohio with Obama...he came quite often.

 

I saw him in Youngstown and Warren. He was down for both O8 and 12...
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Response to doc03 (Reply #52)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:32 PM

77. Biden will definitely carry Ohio.

 

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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 07:49 PM

55. 5 stages of mourning

 

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance

OP is in stage 1
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:03 PM

57. OK

 

Then it wasn't over after IA, NH and NV for sure.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:15 PM

63. Those are all states that Biden is stronger than Bernie in... especially FL

 



Bernie was polling under 10% in FL last week. He might get shut out of delegates there.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:34 PM

64. I live in one of the few

 

counties in NYS that went for Bernie in 2016 primary. I donít know anyone this time around who is supporting him, except one old hippie in my resistant group.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:45 PM

70. I agree it's far from over....

 

However, I think Sanders will have to replicate Bidenís ST success in multiple states. After the last week, I am firmly in the anything can happen camp.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:55 PM

74. 352 delegates up at stake next Tuesday.

 

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Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:32 AM

83. So Bernie will win 354 of them #Berniemath

 

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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:27 PM

75. I don't see Sanders overtaking the current

 

Joe Biden packing the extra support he has now. Not gonna happen. Better chance that Bernie supporters start bailing.
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Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:31 PM

76. Bernie handed Florida to Joe on a silver platter

 

Big time. And yes, aside from that one there are still many competitive races.
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Thu Mar 5, 2020, 06:46 AM

85. Here we go again...

 

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Thu Mar 5, 2020, 08:43 AM

87. BS got his ass handed to him on ST. The race to the nomination is over. No need to drag it out

 

so the Biden camp can focus on winning the GE. Time to close up shop dude, and get behind Biden.
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Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:35 AM

88. It's still good!

 

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