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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:53 PM Feb 2020

Once again, zero evidence of mischievous crossover voting having an impact

There's about as much evidence for substantial mischievous crossover voting in open primaries as there is for voter fraud in general elections.

Like voter fraud, mischievous crossover voting merely serves as a ready-made excuse for supporters of a particular candidate.

Still, I'm sure we'll be hearing the same preemptive excuse-making in another 4 or 8 years, as we do every primary season. Que será, será.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
1. Am feeling the Burn....the Biden Burn! n/t
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:53 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,418 posts)
3. Actually, we don't know that and neither do you.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:56 PM
Feb 2020

South Carolina doesn't have party registration. What proof do you have that Republicans didn't vote in the primary? I'll answer that - none.

The exit polls should provide some info if they ask about party affiliation, but at the moment, unless you know something the rest of us don't, your assertion has no basis.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

4139

(1,893 posts)
13. Do you think a crossover voter would talk with an exit pollster? No, not a chance!
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
4. Trump openly calls for it from his supporters
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:56 PM
Feb 2020

but they're probably too dumb to figure out how to do it in significant enough numbers to make a difference

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
8. Historically, there's no evidence of mischievous crossover voting having an impact.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:10 PM
Feb 2020

This year wasn't going to be any different no matter what Trump called for.

There are always some people who vote in the primary for the party to which they are not affiliated, but 1) the number who do so is small and 2) their votes tend to be distributed (they aren't mischievously coalescing around a certain candidate).

Every 4 years, regardless of which party is having a primary, this discussion gets reenacted.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beastie boy

(9,224 posts)
5. As long as Trump thinks it does, I say let him make an idiot of himself and his groupies!
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:00 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AGeddy

(509 posts)
6. You have no idea what impact it had.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:01 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,848 posts)
7. Not according to James Carville
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:07 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
9. Every 4 years, people in both parties call for mischievous crossover voting.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:11 PM
Feb 2020

Calling for something and it actually having a noticeable impact are 2 completely different things.

Historically, there is zero evidence for it having a substantial impact.

But, as with voter fraud, peeps gonna believe what peeps gonna believe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lapucelle

(18,180 posts)
10. Argumentum ad ignorantiam. N/T
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:15 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
11. CNN has reported exit poll results
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:17 PM
Feb 2020

that include party registration, liberal to conservative self identification, liberal to conservative direction preferred, and whether they’ll vote for the Dem in November.

The numbers may have changed from when I heard the results but at that time there were obvious repugs or repug leaning “no party”s who voted in the Dem primary. Unless there is another way to explain the number who said they wouldn’t vote for the Dem in November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

4139

(1,893 posts)
12. If Bernie just squeaks over the 15% threshold then even small crossover may have had a huge impact
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:31 PM
Feb 2020

Right at this time Bernie at 17.9% that’s likely too large....
But if the final is 15.5%, crossover may have pulled Bernie over the threshold

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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