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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:26 PM Apr 2019

When will negotiations start between Bernie 2020 and United Food and Commercial Workers Local 400?

We are three weeks out from his workers unionizing and going with United Food and Commercial Workers Local 400 as representation. I see nothing with respect to even the start of negotiations.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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When will negotiations start between Bernie 2020 and United Food and Commercial Workers Local 400? (Original Post) WeekiWater Apr 2019 OP
They got the optics and talking point. What more do you want? namahage Apr 2019 #1
Let's keep eating our own... good idea!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #3
How is this eating our own? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #6
It's not "eating our own". That's the trendy catch-all phrase that's being used as a shield... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #28
Seems like it. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #29
Are you accusing the ufcw400 of corruption? Unions aren't fronts for politicians. Autumn Apr 2019 #7
Seems pretty clear they were talking about the campaign. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #8
What makes you think there needs to be a negotiation? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #11
Maybe you should let the union know they don't know what they are doing. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #13
"What makes you think there needs to be a negotiation?" WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #19
Scroll down the page, it's not that hard. You think that Federici is going to Autumn Apr 2019 #14
"Rest assured there are negotiations going on" WeekiWater Apr 2019 #15
No. Do you have a link that no negotiations are going on? I take UFCW Local 400 President Autumn Apr 2019 #16
You made an absolute statement that they are going on. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #17
If they are ended they aren't going on and it would have been announced that Autumn Apr 2019 #18
"So they are still currently ongoing or soon will be." WeekiWater Apr 2019 #21
They are currently ongoing or soon will be, as I said. There's no "not sure" to it. Autumn Apr 2019 #22
"There's no "not sure" to it." WeekiWater Apr 2019 #23
When negotiations break down or when they are complete it will be news. I'm not arguing, Autumn Apr 2019 #24
One of your link starts by discussing "upcoming" negotiations... WeekiWater Apr 2019 #25
Yes that's their web site, news and updates. I told you scroll down the link. Autumn Apr 2019 #26
We seem to be in the same place. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #27
That's some lame shit you got there. Ask their reps. Maybe it's just a standard contract. nt Snotcicles Apr 2019 #2
How is it "lame shit"? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #5
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #9
I'm very ok with you calling me a troll. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Snotcicles Apr 2019 #12
A standard contract...like what? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #20
Maybe they're all busy working on Bernie's tax returns? brooklynite Apr 2019 #4
K&R stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #30
 

namahage

(1,157 posts)
1. They got the optics and talking point. What more do you want?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:33 PM
Apr 2019

For actual protections to be negotiated?

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
3. Let's keep eating our own... good idea!!
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:44 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
6. How is this eating our own?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:54 PM
Apr 2019

Very interesting how different you and I see this. I think it's good they have unionized. You find the mere mention of it to be "eating our own."

Or is it that you think it was just a publicity move? Now I get you comment.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. It's not "eating our own". That's the trendy catch-all phrase that's being used as a shield...
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:13 PM
Apr 2019

It's not "eating our own". That's the trendy catch-all phrase that's being used as a shield against valid criticism and legitimate questions.



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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
29. Seems like it.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:15 PM
Apr 2019

I'm very interested to see how this will work on a national campaign. I think the Union has enormous negotiating leverage.

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
7. Are you accusing the ufcw400 of corruption? Unions aren't fronts for politicians.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:02 PM
Apr 2019
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
8. Seems pretty clear they were talking about the campaign.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:04 PM
Apr 2019

Do you have any information about when negotiations will start?

Your link is to one of their stories about upcoming contract negotiations between them and Safeway and Giant Food.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,344 posts)
11. What makes you think there needs to be a negotiation?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:08 PM
Apr 2019

I don’t think you know how unions work.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
13. Maybe you should let the union know they don't know what they are doing.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:10 PM
Apr 2019

"As a result, all campaign employees below the rank of deputy director are now represented by UFCW Local 400 and negotiations for their first collective bargaining agreement will begin as soon as possible."

http://www.ufcw400.org/2019/03/15/bernie-sanders-campaign-workers-join-ufcw-local-400/

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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,448 posts)
19. "What makes you think there needs to be a negotiation?"
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:31 PM
Apr 2019

That's how both sides agree on a contract.

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
14. Scroll down the page, it's not that hard. You think that Federici is going to
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:12 PM
Apr 2019

confirm the Sanders campaign Sanders' campaign workers were the first to win union representation and the campaign is faking it and refusing to negotiate?
Rest assured there are negotiations going on, obviously you aren't on the please inform list. Don't worry it will be announced.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
15. "Rest assured there are negotiations going on"
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:14 PM
Apr 2019

Do you have a link? The one you posted doesn't state what you are saying.

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
16. No. Do you have a link that no negotiations are going on? I take UFCW Local 400 President
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:21 PM
Apr 2019

Mark P Federici at his word that negotiations for a collective bargaining agreement will begin "as soon as possible." Just because the negotiations haven't been announce as being complete doesn't mean they aren't on going.


UFCW said Sanders' campaign had agreed to use "card check" to determine whether most workers wanted a union. In card check, union organizers ask workers to sign cards affirming that they support a union. If a majority of workers sign them, the union presents those cards to the employer so that the employer will recognize the union.

The union said that by Friday, a majority of the campaign's 44 bargaining-unit-eligible employees had signed union cards. Sanders' aides said on a recent conference call that the campaign has roughly 70 paid staffers. The union says that all campaign employees below the level of deputy director will be represented by the union and that negotiations for a collective bargaining agreement will begin "as soon as possible."

Federici called the unionization a breakthrough that he hoped would serve as a model for other campaigns.

"While political campaigns aren't the easiest work environment, every worker has the right to respect and dignity," he said. "And when candidates who claim to support the labor movement practice what they preach, that sends a powerful message that, if elected, they will deliver on their promises to strengthen union rights and level the playing field between workers and employers."


https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Campaign-workers-for-Bernie-Sanders-2020-13692467.php
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
17. You made an absolute statement that they are going on.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:24 PM
Apr 2019

I assumed you knew something. Now I understand you don't and the uncertainty stands.

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
18. If they are ended they aren't going on and it would have been announced that
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:30 PM
Apr 2019

negotiations have stopped, broken down and are no longer going on. No announcements. So they are still currently ongoing or soon will be. Federici said negotiations for a collective bargaining agreement will begin "as soon as possible." in March.
That's how it works.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
21. "So they are still currently ongoing or soon will be."
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:35 PM
Apr 2019

"Not sure" would have saved time. I appreciate you getting to a direct answer.

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
22. They are currently ongoing or soon will be, as I said. There's no "not sure" to it.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:41 PM
Apr 2019

I gave you the link from March that said

negotiations for a collective bargaining agreement will begin "as soon as possible."


So they are "still currently ongoing or soon will be"
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
23. "There's no "not sure" to it."
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:45 PM
Apr 2019

You are not sure if they are going on or when they are to start. Not sure why that is even an arguable point. It's in your own words. I appreciate the straightforward answer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
24. When negotiations break down or when they are complete it will be news. I'm not arguing,
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:01 PM
Apr 2019

I gave you the information I found about the negotiations in 2 different links from Feb and March that said the negotiations will begin "as soon as possible". Ignore them or not, I'm not going to go round and round about the terms "currently ongoing" or "soon will be" or not sure.

Good luck with whatever you eventually find out.

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Undecided
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
25. One of your link starts by discussing "upcoming" negotiations...
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:03 PM
Apr 2019

With Safeway and Food Giant. I had read the other story almost three weeks ago. I was looking for any other similar information. The Union often lists upcoming negotiations on their website.

I don't see a link from February.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
26. Yes that's their web site, news and updates. I told you scroll down the link.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:10 PM
Apr 2019
2nd one the last I saw it, easy to find.
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
27. We seem to be in the same place.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:12 PM
Apr 2019

We are unsure about the timing of the negotiations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
2. That's some lame shit you got there. Ask their reps. Maybe it's just a standard contract. nt
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:43 PM
Apr 2019
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
5. How is it "lame shit"?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:53 PM
Apr 2019

You don't find interest in the first national campaign to unionize and what will he focused on in it's contract?

Seems you were just in it for the buzz. That's what I think is pretty lame.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to WeekiWater (Reply #5)

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
10. I'm very ok with you calling me a troll.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:06 PM
Apr 2019

DU is a great place for information. I understand that this topic doesn't concern you.

The union normally puts up articles on their website about upcoming contracts. I looked there before writing the op. Nothing is stated.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,448 posts)
20. A standard contract...like what?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:32 PM
Apr 2019
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brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
4. Maybe they're all busy working on Bernie's tax returns?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:52 PM
Apr 2019
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