BERNIE ..... stop waving your hand !!! He is SO rude!! He did the same thing to Hillary

[trueblue2007]

No one is as rude as Bernie. Why does he put forth that "entitled" white man mentality by thinking he has the right to talk over the other folks on that stage. Nothing makes me madder than seeing him flap his hands like a pelican bird.


Glad to get that off my chest.

[apcalc]

1. That finger wagging is so maddening. I can't watch.

[oldsoftie]

2. But Bernie waves during EVERY speech.

[trueblue2007]

3. and for senator WARREN to slap Bloomberg with the KILL THE BABY..... Shame on you Liz

what is wrong with you people. stop wallowing in the gutter. You are all acting juvenile and like bullies. I am ashamed of them all for acting horrible.

[peggysue2]

12. That comment/narrative was a true loser

Warren went for another solid punch to Bloomberg but it had the opposite effect this time leaving her bruised.

I don't know who gave her the advice to use that tactic but it simply didn't work.

Her explanation to Chris Matthews after the debate wasn't much better.

[whathehell]

33. Lol..No, I don't think so...I'm afraid you'll have to explain how she seemed "bruised_

The Boston Globe just endorsed "The fearless and courageous" Elizabeth Warren for President.

As for Bloomberg, the last time she went after him in Vegas, she pulled in a record Five Million in two days.

[peggysue2]

35. It just wasn't a good look from my point of view

Elizabeth Warren is a hell a lot better than that performance. And that's how it came across to me, a staged performance that didn't elevate her profile or her polling position. She needs to go after Sanders; he's her real competition. And she's the better candidate.

[whathehell]

40. Then I'd guess it's something personal to you..

It didn't looked "staged" to me..Most of what I read and hear applauds her for going after Bloomberg and credits her with getting him to move on his NDA's

I know the MSM is constantly telling Warren she "'should' be going after Sanders", but apart from the fact that's she's already done that, it's likely because they are "going after" Sanders themselves, in a desperate effort to promote a 'moderate'.

[whathehell]

49. Really? How so? What were the indicators?..

I'd say it DID work and Chris Matthews is now under fire from one MORE group, this one Feminist, for his clear bias in challenging Warren SIX times for saying she believed the female plaintiff over Bloomberg.

[peggysue2]

60. It's aways something personal

We see the world through our own lens and perception. So my take is no more personal (or not) than your yours. As for her going after Sanders? That's been a patty-cake response at best. Why? Because I'm sure she believes there's an overlap in support between her campaign and Sanders'.

As far as the 'kill it story?" Because the story and the words are ugly and appeal to our worst beliefs about Bloomberg (or any other man, particularly a billionaire) doesn't make it a feminist hill to die on. The case will go to court, the parties will have their chance to present evidence and presumably an impartial jury will render a decision. It's not up to me or you or Elizabeth Warren to render that judgement out of hand. We have enough of that going on in Trumplandia.

You and I disagree. Probably on a lot of things. So be it.

[dsc]

25. Maybe if Bloomberg didn't want to have that brought up he shouldn't have said it.

[whathehell]

30. Ding ding ding!..We have a winner!

[whathehell]

54. Oh please...He SAID it!..He is the one meriting "shame", not her!

Are we clear now?

[Hoyt]

4. They are all doing it. Gonna have to put em in a straight jacket.

[octoberlib]

5. He's doing it to Klobuchar. He likes to interrupt women.

[NurseJackie]

8. Always with women.

[OAITW r.2.0]

6. Inefficiency is labor intensive.

Sometimes, that is a good thing. That's why I love decentralized energy grids.

[NurseJackie]

7. Rude. Unnecessarily aggressive. Overcompensating.

Indicative of fear and knowing he is arguing from a position of weakness. But mostly rude.

[jg10003]

9. Not rude, just the Brooklyn way of talking. Youse gotta a problem wit dat?

[trueblue2007]

10. yes i do. i have a problem with some man who won't listen and won't consider

anyone elses opinion. I don't think this actions are funny. I have had new york friends and they don't constantly interrupt. THEY LISTEN. THEY DON'T FLAP THEIR ARM AND HANDS RUDELY IN FRONT OF MY FACE EITHER.

[Codeine]

17. Yes. It's gross and rude.

People should demonstrate a little self-control.

[W_HAMILTON]

29. Bloomberg has spent more time in New York City than Sanders has...

...and he doesn't constantly do that same rude hand waving.

[comradebillyboy]

59. Why slander the good citizens of Brooklyn?

[Awsi Dooger]

11. Early in every debate Sanders and Warren try to hog the response time

Somehow the moderators allow them to get away with it. I always know that Biden and Klobuchar will fall several minutes and multiple responses behind.

It levels out later but those early responses are so memorable and set the stage toward the remainder.

No matter what Sanders or Warren are saying I always think less of them due to the monopoly desperation and refusal to stop at allotted time. Biden had some great related barbs tonight.

[emmaverybo]

27. I wish the two would not shoot their hands in the air as soon as Biden starts to answer the

question HE is asked. Pressuring him by rushing him.

[peggysue2]

13. The Hoarsewhisperer had a funny quip about Sanders' handwaving

He said Bernie was a human hummingbird; he can flap his hands 1000x a minute.

Made me laugh.

[Cha]

14. lol..

Peggysue

[peggysue2]

15. Hey, Cha!

Laughing is good. Think we need more of it in troubled, weary times. And this just made me giggle, nearly spit my soda all over the computer.



Back at you.

[Cha]

16. Oh yeah.. I relish the chance

to have a laugh. And, there really wasn't very much of it last week until the last couple of days. So I am quite loving this.

[denem]

32. ... a gif for you troubles

[MustLoveBeagles]

37. I don't mind Bernie's hand flapping but this gif makes me giggle

Thank you

[denem]

39. yw. It's an albatross ... one of my favorite birds

Graceful in the sky. Can be a little awkward on land

[empedocles]

55. 'Albatross' is a more fitting metaphor for BS [clumsy sometimes, frustration, guilt]

[MustLoveBeagles]

70. Didn't stick the landing

Kinda like Indiana Jones

[trueblue2007]

18. well it makes me angry. he needs to stop. he needs to remove himself in my opinion.

[ChubbyStar]

21. Well you are entitled to your opinion

Remove? Not likely.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

19. Hummingbirds are cute and adorable. BS, not so much.

[Cha]

20. Kick

[Lordquinton]

22. Oh no, hand waving!

absolutely a disqualifier. Thank you for bringing up the real issues that determine weather someone can be president.

[whathehell]

44. You're insufficiently horrified by the Horrors of Hand Waving?!

Quick - Find me some pearls to clutch! Unbelievable.

[NurseJackie]

23. It's not very dignified. The candidate that I choose will be dignified.

[HarlanPepper]

24. He got super rattled the two times the audience booed him.

[kimbutgar]

26. He reminds me of the old guy screaming out his window telling you to be quiet!

[W_HAMILTON]

31. To be fair, I call bullshit.

He does it even when no one is talking but him. It's just one of his multiple rude ways of communicating.

[whathehell]

45. Um, one person's "rude" is another's "expressive"

I don't find it "rude" at all -- He's a passionate, expressive Brooklyn guy.

[W_HAMILTON]

48. It's fucking rude.

[whathehell]

50. It's "fucking" cultural

Get a clue.

[W_HAMILTON]

52. As is the excuse for a lot of rude shit, I'm sure.

It doesn't change the fact that it's fucking rude.

[whathehell]

56. ..As is yours for a lot of ignorance, I'm equally sure.

Come back when you're secure enough to tolerate differences, and realize that spelling YOUR NAME IN ALL CAPS doesn't mean you get to mistake your opinion for Reality. Until then, goodbye and good luck.

[rzemanfl]

57. Bookmarking. n/t

[whathehell]

58. Thank you.

[LanternWaste]

64. Glad no one made an issue of wagging a finger in someone's face.

(distinction lacking relevant difference coming soon to a theater near me!)

[NurseJackie]

71. Unfuckingbelievable. So rude.

How does he not realize how fucking rude that is?

[NoDakLinda]

34. "entitled" white man mentality by thinking he has the right to talk over the other folks

Give me a break: Bernie is not a white man he is a Jew, and that is a minority.
As for as "the right to talk over the other folks" goes I think they were allowed to treat and speak to Bernie insolently and he was not called on to reply. If he then tried to they shouted him down.

[trueblue2007]

36. you are wrong. He is a caucasian.

The 2000 U.S. census states that racial categories "generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country. They do not conform to any biological, anthropological or genetic criteria."[4] It defines "white people" as "people having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.[5] The Federal Bureau of Investigation uses the same definition.[6]

In 2013, more than 90% of U.S. Jews described themselves as white.[61] However, the racial status of Jews has continued to engender debate,[62] with some commentators arguing that all Jews are non-white.[63][64]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States

[JudyM]

46. That's the truth. He doesn't interrupt others during their time.

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Buttigieg was obnoxious in talking right over Sanders during his turn. Not fair play at all.

[Laelth]

73. I agree. It was Pete's worst performance to date.

Evidently, Pete was ill. He cancelled a number of appearances in FL the day after the debate.



-Laelth

[Steelrolled]

38. Bernie is the salt of the earth.

Waving hands are part of it. It is part of his appeal.

An applicable quote for the primary:

You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

[whathehell]

47. Um, I think most would agree that Bernie isn't even close

to "losing his saltiness".

[Steelrolled]

69. Agreed!

[BigBoss26]

41. Meh, the guy waves his hands around even when he's just talking by himself.

This feels like a real stretch to me. They all talk over one another and interrupt(except for maybe Steyer) so trying to single out one candidate for it seems pretty disingenuous. There are valid reasons to not support Bernie Sanders. This kind of stuff is just silly. It borders on "2016 Republican Primaries" level imo.

[Cha]

42. That's your opinion.. others have different

ones.

[BigBoss26]

43. Yep. Hence the "imo" at the end of my post. *shrug*

[MFM008]

51. My personal feeling

She wasted valuable time going after MB.
You dont kill your victim twice.

[C_U_L8R]

53. When his arms are waving, he's not listening

The guy is a fantastic pontificator but I've never seen him actually sit down, be quiet and consider what others are saying. We already have a president who is expert at that.

[ehrnst]

63. Of course you do. That's why you're "undecided," and not sure who you'll support.

[Cha]

72. ..

[zackymilly]

65. He's trying to signal that sparrow from 2016 to come back to the podium. n/t

[LanternWaste]

66. It's only an issue of incivility when it's a finger wagged in a face...

Otherwise, we're simply being intolerant of culture-arble-garble.

(i.e., "it's ok if you're a Bernie supporter)

[zackymilly]

67. It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye. n/t

[trueblue2007]

68. If BS put out my eye, I'd sue him.

[Cha]

74. Kick.. I don't like it either.