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Uncle Joe

(58,565 posts)
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 06:05 PM Apr 2019

Courting black voters, Bernie Sanders draws personal contrast with Trump



(snip)

"I am the son of an immigrant whose family was murdered by the Nazis, and so, from a very young age, I knew that we must stand up to bigotry wherever it exists."

Sanders, whose father was an immigrant from Poland, struggled to win black support in his losing 2016 Democratic primary race against Hillary Clinton, who along with her husband, former President Bill Clinton, had proven appeal to black voters

(snip)

'HE HAS LIVED UP TO EVERYTHING'

At the conference, Sanders drew words of praise from Sharpton, who has said he will not endorse a Democratic candidate until later in the year. Sharpton reminded the crowd, however, of his breakfast in Harlem with Sanders at the height of the campaign for president in 2016.

"I can say in the two years since, he has lived up to everything he has said to me and more. I want you to know he has done what he said," Sharpton told the crowd.

(snip)

https://www.metro.us/news/the-big-stories/courting-black-voters-bernie-sanders-draws-personal-contrast-trump


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Courting black voters, Bernie Sanders draws personal contrast with Trump (Original Post) Uncle Joe Apr 2019 OP
Did Bernie remind the audience how John Lewis was booed BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #1
.. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #2
Cute but, did Bernie remind the audience how John Lewis was booed by his supporters? George II Apr 2019 #4
And, how he wanted President Cha Apr 2019 #8
I find Reverend Al's wording... sheshe2 Apr 2019 #27
I was there when this happened Gothmog Apr 2019 #29
It's too bad BS didn't listen to that himself around May or June 2016 n/t SFnomad Apr 2019 #15
And, how he wanted President Obama Cha Apr 2019 #3
Hi Cha, I believe this article by The Nation gives a more in-depth analysis of the situation Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #9
Careful, Uncle Joe. Too much truth at once! rgbecker Apr 2019 #23
It can be a hard balance sometimes to criticize the political leaders that you respect. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #24
Pushing for a primary of President Obama was a dumb move Gothmog Apr 2019 #30
Thank you Reverend Al for praising Bernie for living up to his word... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #5
Yeah ... let's trust Bernie BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #7
I DO trust Bernie, emphatically!! No need to be scared of Bernie... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #10
No kidding? nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #17
Al has not formally endorsed anyone yet but I am encouraged by his statement. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #11
Reverend Al's statement is about as close to an endorsement as you can get! Thanks for sharing! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #13
He invites all the candidates to his conference and says nice things about them. marylandblue Apr 2019 #16
You're not trusting Bernie enough BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #18
Thanks Al for the kind words Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #6
This is starting to feel like the JackPine Radical days padah513 Apr 2019 #12
What does JackPine Radical have to do with this OP? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #14
They're baaaaaaack BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #19
Welcome baaaaaaack to you too! A lot of us never left. Autumn Apr 2019 #21
"Us"? Hmmmm. George II Apr 2019 #32
Hmmmm. Yeah "Us" Bernie supporters. A lot of us stayed, never got FFR or banned. Autumn Apr 2019 #34
I know, right? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #33
Yeah Autumn Apr 2019 #35
Better Believe It! MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #36
Better Believe It! Banned in 2008. Autumn Apr 2019 #37
Thanks for posting. David__77 Apr 2019 #20
Thank you David. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Apr 2019 #25
The Reverend Al was probably my favorite personality on MSNBC. CentralMass Apr 2019 #26
That's the truth Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #28
Yes, even when he's wrong. He still hasn't apologized for the Tawana Brawley incident. George II Apr 2019 #31
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
1. Did Bernie remind the audience how John Lewis was booed
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:04 PM
Apr 2019

by his supporters?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Cute but, did Bernie remind the audience how John Lewis was booed by his supporters?
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:34 PM
Apr 2019
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Cha

(298,087 posts)
8. And, how he wanted President
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:41 PM
Apr 2019

Primaried in 2012 and be "asked the hard questions"?

I think BS needs to be asked the hard questions.. especially since he's so gung ho for other people getting them.

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sheshe2

(84,073 posts)
27. I find Reverend Al's wording...
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:55 PM
Apr 2019

Interesting.

"I can say in the two years since, he has lived up to everything he has said to me and more. I want you to know he has done what he said," Sharpton told the crowd.
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Gothmog

(145,970 posts)
29. I was there when this happened
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:06 AM
Apr 2019
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SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
15. It's too bad BS didn't listen to that himself around May or June 2016 n/t
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 08:12 PM
Apr 2019
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Cha

(298,087 posts)
3. And, how he wanted President Obama
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:33 PM
Apr 2019

primaried in 2012? Or did he try to hitch himself to Obama and say he "campaigned for him" after no one would take him up on his suggestion to primarying him?

Sanders Talks Up Primary Challenge to Obama as ‘a Good Idea for Our Democracy and for the Democratic Party’

The Vermont independent is not running for president, but he says it’s time “that people start asking the president some hard questions about why he said one thing during his previous campaign, and is doing another thing today on Social Security, on Medicare.”

https://www.thenation.com/article/bernie-sanders-talks-primary-challenge-obama-good-idea-our-democracy-and-democratic-part/

I say it's "time people start asking BS some hard questions".
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Uncle Joe

(58,565 posts)
9. Hi Cha, I believe this article by The Nation gives a more in-depth analysis of the situation
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:48 PM
Apr 2019


(snip)

Sanders has a much better case to make, and for some reason he hasn’t fully made it. He had a very specific reason for suggesting a Democratic primary in 2012: In debt-ceiling talks with Republicans, Obama proposed cutting Social Security benefits and raising the Medicare age to 67. After initially refusing to negotiate over the debt ceiling, the White House pivoted to a full-scale embrace of austerity in the hopes of taking away the Republican Party’s main talking point ahead of the 2012 election.

(snip)

Obama actually proposed more deficit reduction in the summer of 2011 than Republicans were asking for—$4 trillion instead of the $2 trillion the GOP had been requesting—and at times the White House was reportedly willing to raise revenue only through closing tax loopholes. That meant in addition to the safety net cuts, the Bush-era tax cuts would either be locked in or even lowered in some cases.

This was a monumental diversion from Democratic Party principles. For years, Democrats ran for office on promises not to cut Social Security and Medicare. They railed against the Bush tax cuts in every election cycle since the tax package was enacted. Republicans already enjoyed bashing Democrats for supposed safety-net cuts; one of the most frequently run advertisements of the 2010 midterms noted the Affordable Care Act cut $700 million from Medicare. (These cuts were mainly on the provider side and did not affect benefits, which was never mentioned in the ads.)

Aside from being potentially catastrophic politics, the Social Security and Medicare cuts were bad policy. Increasing the Medicare age would have lowered federal health spending but increased overall health spending by much more, and would have left many seniors uninsured. Obama’s method for reducing Social Security benefits by changing the Chained-CPI formula would have resulted in fairly minimal long-term budget savings but would have cost the average senior $28,000 by age 95.

(snip)

https://www.thenation.com/article/yes-bernie-sanders-wanted-obama-primaried-in-2012-heres-why/




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rgbecker

(4,835 posts)
23. Careful, Uncle Joe. Too much truth at once!
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:25 PM
Apr 2019
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Uncle Joe

(58,565 posts)
24. It can be a hard balance sometimes to criticize the political leaders that you respect.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:32 PM
Apr 2019
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Gothmog

(145,970 posts)
30. Pushing for a primary of President Obama was a dumb move
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:07 AM
Apr 2019
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,128 posts)
5. Thank you Reverend Al for praising Bernie for living up to his word...
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:34 PM
Apr 2019

Like Rev. Sharpton, we can ALL trust Bernie to do the right thing and carry out everything he says he will do. Endorsements like this come as no surprise, nor that one of Bernie's biggest gains in the polls is within the African American community.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
7. Yeah ... let's trust Bernie
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:40 PM
Apr 2019

and cancel the election. Just appoint him President. We're all wasting our time here.



By the way, where are his tax returns? I want to see them so I can trust him even more .....

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InAbLuEsTaTe

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10. I DO trust Bernie, emphatically!! No need to be scared of Bernie...
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:48 PM
Apr 2019

he's 100% dependable, as Reverend Al clearly recognizes... maybe you should take up your beef with him!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Uncle Joe

(58,565 posts)
11. Al has not formally endorsed anyone yet but I am encouraged by his statement.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:49 PM
Apr 2019
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,128 posts)
13. Reverend Al's statement is about as close to an endorsement as you can get! Thanks for sharing!
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:51 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
16. He invites all the candidates to his conference and says nice things about them.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 08:25 PM
Apr 2019

So it doesn't mean anything at this point.

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Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
6. Thanks Al for the kind words
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:36 PM
Apr 2019

Al Sharpton has been at this for a very long time, it's got to be difficult for him to choose an endorsement.
He may very well have someone other than Bernie in mind for his endorsement but the simple act of acknowledging Bernie living up to his word is encouraging

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padah513

(2,516 posts)
12. This is starting to feel like the JackPine Radical days
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:50 PM
Apr 2019

Maybe they'll start coming back. Maybe they're already here. Maybe they never left.

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Uncle Joe

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14. What does JackPine Radical have to do with this OP?
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:59 PM
Apr 2019
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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
21. Welcome baaaaaaack to you too! A lot of us never left.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:10 PM
Apr 2019
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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
34. Hmmmm. Yeah "Us" Bernie supporters. A lot of us stayed, never got FFR or banned.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 08:34 AM
Apr 2019

Unlike "some" .

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
37. Better Believe It! Banned in 2008.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 09:55 AM
Apr 2019
Good times back in 2012.
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David__77

(23,638 posts)
20. Thanks for posting.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:06 PM
Apr 2019

...

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
26. The Reverend Al was probably my favorite personality on MSNBC.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:53 PM
Apr 2019

He's not afraid to speak his mind and stand his ground.

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Uncle Joe

(58,565 posts)
28. That's the truth
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 10:31 PM
Apr 2019


He's not afraid to speak his mind and stand his ground.



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George II

(67,782 posts)
31. Yes, even when he's wrong. He still hasn't apologized for the Tawana Brawley incident.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:26 AM
Apr 2019
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