Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumHonest question. No sarcasm.
If we ALL vote blue no matter who the Democratic candidate is, how are we arguing that some are unelectable?
I have my favs to be sure, but I WILL unequivocally support whomever emerges from the primary.
Are we saying none of our candidates can win?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RazBerryBeret
(3,075 posts)and Bloomberg is the only candidate I will have to hold my nose to vote for... all the others would be a win.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TEB
(12,841 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)are not a majority of the voters except in certain very BLUE states.
I have no fear that Sanders will lose in California or New York... and probably another dozen states we could all name.
That won't matter at all.
Sanders could win California by 3 Million voters (and probably will)... but that doesn't change the number of electors in the electoral college.
Our founders (in a compromise to the southern states) set us up with a system where it is possible for the clear election winner (and only for President) loses the election.
It has happened twice in my lifetime. I believe we are set up for a third time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)If we dont win 5 swing states. Its over.
I retired to Kentucky. I see what a type of person can be on the Democratic ticket to win over independents and light republicans. We need base plus.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Second of all, general elections are not just about the Democrats. There are actually more independents than there are Democrats or Republicans. How the Independents, Democrats, and Republicans vote makes the difference in the general election.
Also, we don't know how many Democrats will just not vote, or how successful Republicans will be at voter suppression. We also don't know how successful Republicans will be at smearing our eventual nominee. There are just a lot of variables.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)This is not just any election and could well be the last election in America.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,862 posts)That still didn't prevent certain people from sitting out the election and/or voting for a spoiler third party candidate in just enough numbers to throw the election to said fascist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(13,964 posts)both moderates and progressives, who are threatening to sit out or write in their favorite candidate come Election Day. I hope its just comments posted in the heat of the moment. Otherwise, were screwed no matter who get the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)here at DU will...but that won't be enough. Sanders will not win a general. I would be delighted to be wrong should he be our nominee but I look at the numbers and see no possible way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)stanford study..polarizing candidate raises opposite party turnout more than same party turnout.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Neon Gods
(222 posts)That Stanford study seems like good news for us.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)the GOP won...so odds are the same thing will happen again with two polarizing candidates (sanders and trump). because... Democrats fall in love and Republicans fall in line
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)I can see Bloomberg or even Biden appealing to disgruntled republicans--Sanders absolutely not. Sanders stands for things that are anathema to republican voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)though I'm not so sure about some members of the Bernie cult (not on DU) who pulled the same shit in 2016. It's a tautology: a candidate is electable if people vote for him. The question is whether enough people will be motivated to vote for Bernie vs. Trump, or will they just think, "Fuck it, Trump is an asshole and Bernie is a socialist and I don't like either of them so I won't vote at all"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)Facing. Leaving aside the question of Democracy, Im afraid we are passed the point of doing anything to address the climate crisis. The survival of the human race on this planet worries me a lot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)If republicans can do it so can we
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)and there is a chance you can persuade someone that it has value.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Arkansas Granny
(31,514 posts)it isn't their favorite. I figure that even my least favorite is preferable to Trump, do if it comes to that, I'll hold my nose if I have to and vote blue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)states. It goes without saying that I will vote blue no matter who.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)What we "pledge" amongst ourselves has very little to do with what's going to happen in the REAL WORLD.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,174 posts)I dont want Bernie to get the nomination but I will absolutely vote for him if he does. (Absent some ridiculous move on his part like naming Tulsi his VP choice)
The problem is for all of the people outside of DU who are more susceptible to slick framing and disingenuous attacks on a candidate. And the more potential vulnerabilities to a candidatesuch as being an openly avowed socialist in a country conditioned to be afraid of socialismthe greater the risks and downsides.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)have voted Democratic in 2020 -- won't with Sanders heading ticket.
But, I agree that our best shot is clearly voting for the candidate who gets the nomination, even if we expect to turn off the disappointing election news early on Nov 3rd.
trump's supporters had to think he was going to lose in 2016, yet they voted and too many Democrats didn't.
I'm voting Democratic, even if resigned to losing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)has already made it clear they do not support Blue No Matter Who but are rather tied exclusively to a single candidate and the rest of us must #bendtheknee or theyll sit out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden