Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumMy thoughts (with the Burnie bashing here) i'm for Biden but
Two words that mean the same fucking thing are (RUSSIA and REPUBLICAN) THEY just want to cause us to self destruct!. To me Biden is the best choice BUT Sanders is NO RUSSIAN!! I refuse to believe this!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(13,649 posts)But, apparently, they ARE helping him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluestarone
(16,720 posts)We CANNOT blame Sanders!! Just need to be aware of it!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,900 posts)the Russians are helping him.. of course he didn't ask for it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluestarone
(16,720 posts)I know Sanders is NO RUSSIAN! Russia will continue to do ANYTHING to disrupt our family here! LONG time left until election. I see a hell of a lot WORSE things coming yet! We need EVERY ONES support everyday!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,900 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Candidates and members of Congress are told a lot of things that the public only finds out about via investigative reporting.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)the classified bits then. And if that was the case when interviewed why didn't he say that? Instead he took shots at the free press.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)You can listen here: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/02/21/bernie-sanders-russia-interference-raw-sot-vpx.cnn
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)being classified.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)BS made that clear in his answer to the question.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Do you really think an intelligence briefing (from the FBI or any other Intel agency) about a foreign adversary wouldn't be classified? Really? You don't think that's kind of a given?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)Do you really think that when asked why he kept silent for a month, BS wouldn't simply have said "It was classified"?
Do you really think if this news story revealed classified information that wouldn't itself wouldn't be an even bigger story?
Huh?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,773 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)The ego is large with this one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)But I'm really bothered by this story that he's known about this for a month. He needs to explain why he sat on it. And he needs to do it now.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(29,540 posts)Ballots have been cast and mailed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(19,906 posts)Political advantage.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(29,540 posts)I didn't respond in the way I would have liked to, because rules and civility.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,728 posts)Sanders wasnt a Russian in 2016.
That doesnt mean he knows anyone Russian helping him.
Twitter quit Political ads. Facebook has done nothing. Fux Youz pushes Bernie.
No one is accusing Bernie of being a fux youz puppet.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marlakay
(11,370 posts)But they leaked it now to stop him.
I dont think Bernie ever expected to be in the big leagues and thats why he isnt what people want him to be.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)If it was classified and he couldn't then fine. I can accept that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Arkansas Granny
(31,483 posts)Extol the virtues of your choice, but don't trash the others. Argue policy differences, not personalities, and don't demean supporters of other candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluestarone
(16,720 posts)We need to be smarter than the RETHUGS!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(46,794 posts)believes Bernie is in cahoots with the Russians, but clearly Russia wants to help him become the Democratic nominee, because they believe Trump can beat him.
It certainly is not Sanders' fault, but it does seem to indicate he would be a weak general election candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
apcalc
(4,461 posts)in their eyes.
They will use him like last time, like they used Jil Stein, all the corporatist bullshit about Hillary, and all those gullible enough to buy into that bullshit etc
And they will again. They wish to create division and anger.
I believe tons of stuff here are instigated by them, (eg yet another poll showing Bernie is ahead!!!) . I believe some of todays protestations are also.
Fool me once , shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
They are masters at propaganda.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pfeiffer
(280 posts)#1 - The visual is not good...he wants to win and Russia is attempting to help him win; #2 - Yikes...he knew for one month but didn't inform anyone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hedda_foil
(16,368 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)If this were "classified information" that somehow made its way onto the front page of WaPo, that woud be an even bigger story.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(130,130 posts)and of course it's WORKING.
We are PITYFUL.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
iwannaknow
(210 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)anything wrong like that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cherryinpa
(301 posts)I agree with you. This could be some sort of psyops to sow confusion. Bernie may not be our best chance but its increasingly looking like hes going to be our only chance. So lets make the best of this. The Russians might be trying to divide and conquer within the Democratic Party ranks pitting one against the other.
I really wish Bernie would come out and make a statement on whats going on.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(50,773 posts)They're helping him.
Russians are helping him. Because they want anothwr trump term.
And he sat on that for a month.
And this is the second time they've done that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mersky
(4,969 posts)Have started and stopped trying to post in regards to this all evening. Ive felt some snap distrust and am collecting my emotions - its been a rough day. Righteous anger over tRump summarily firing one acting ODNI director for another (that is ridiculously unqualified) just kept going until the Bernie story hit.
Im trying to keep focus on how we got to this point: tRump. As Swalwell pointed out on Lawrence ODonnells show, the real question should be, when was tRump first notified and did he use that intel to start preferencing Bernie in his twitter feed, etc. instead of taking measures to protect the integrity of the election?
If Sanders wins the election by whatever means, good or bad, Democrats will hold him accountable if he favors putin one tenth as aggressively as tRump has. Is bonkers that Sanders was briefed on this during the impeachment, and I get how transparency may have been tricky. Am glad we know about it, now, by leak and then confirmation from the candidate. I give Sanders credit for forceful comments aimed at putin. I could have done without his Washington Post jab as he headed for the plane (that really bothers me). Ill temper my reactions with reading and knowledge.
Too, this isnt a Democratic establishment takedown of Bernie. Cmon, thats just convenient conjecture.
These are the machinations of the tRump regime as they tear down the whole system for their narrow benefit, and I will not give in to their abusive tactics.
Eta: I dont know how to figure all this after seeing Bernies tweet from earlier this evening. Im rather pissed off, now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden