Democratic Primaries
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Xipe Totec
(43,889 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GanjaGrower
(83 posts)I thought Bloomberg did fairly well considering it was his first debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bradshaw3
(7,510 posts)He's getting hammered by the pundits. What was left of him after Liz did her thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hangaleft
(649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Just an awful performance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,928 posts)and been ready for anything.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
2naSalit
(86,534 posts)and kept rattling him every chance she got. This was a debate to severely wound him and it did. He does not belong in this race and the real candidates let Mr. Affluenza know that he's not going anywhere in this race, not after all the work they are doing to win our votes.
They let him know that you cannot buy the election and we don't want another billionaire in the WH.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
2naSalit
(86,534 posts)any woman would want to vote for him after this exposure. He's not going around meeting voters on the trail, he's schmoozing with the rich folks. And I wonder what he's telling them.
He doesn't have any idea what the "unfortunate" go through in these times. It's exponentially more egregious than whenever it was that he might have caught a glimpse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Other than that, it was a disaster.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GanjaGrower
(83 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)something.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Red Oak
(697 posts)He acted like he was disgusted having to be up on stage with these peasants.
Elizabeth Warren gutted him, and rightly so.
Bloomberg is no Democrat. He is a billionaire cut throat capitalist trying to buy the Presidency.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)We were willing to be open-minded. I kind of liked the idea that he put *his* money where his mouth is, not begging everyone for cash.
However, he failed.
His answers were evasive and at no point did he state what he stood for. He missed multiple opportunities to defuse the situation, or even turn it around to his advantage, and he was always on the defensive. If he didn't know that was all coming, then either he, or his advisors were really off base. He'll have another chance at the next debate, but this was definitely not a good, or even fair night.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Merlot
(9,696 posts)If that didn't prep him for this debate, nothing would.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)He was expected to perform in this one better than he did.
https://gothamist.com/news/bloombergs-past-debate-opponents-have-a-warning-for-democratic-candidates-dont-underestimate-him
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg knows his way around a debate stage. In his three previous bids for office, he faced off against competitors more than half a dozen times, both as a Republican and then later an Independent. His former rivals say that while Bloomberg might not shine on the debate stage, he certainly comes prepared.
Running for president as a Democrat, Bloomberg will suit up for the primary debate on Wednesday nighthis first time facing five other candidatesthanks to a tweak last month to the national partys debate qualification rules.
While Bloomberg officially qualified for the debate on Tuesday morning, when the latest NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll showed him with 19% support nationally, second only to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, the NY Times reports that his campaign has been steadily prepping him to take the stage, running mock debates with stand-in candidates.
While his style is crisp and sometimes curt, those who have debated him before said the billionaire businessmans minimalism should not be underestimated.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tinrobot
(10,894 posts)And the product being sold didn't quite match those ads.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)That the DNC amended their rules to get him on this debate stage for that very reason.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MFM008
(19,804 posts)it was coming.
Should have been ready.
Instead we have another ill tempered privileged
OLD
white guy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Raine
(30,540 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pattyloutwo
(279 posts)like that too, and people are so ready and waiting for it
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
GaYellowDawg
(4,446 posts)Ive seen some on here characterize her performance as desperate. Hell, no. That was assertiveness. We need someone who can be relatable, but can go after Trumps fat, wattled throat. Im with her!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
not fooled
(5,801 posts)Even if he wouldn't debate her in person, she would use the media to dismantle red don and his dumbass insults and tweets. All without descending to being crude or vulgar.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)he sees one everytime he looks in the mirror. He said, "He is finally acting presidential" after the fucking moron's first SOTU speech (yes, I know the first one isn't called the SOTU).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)What an idiot. Every time I see him for the rest of my life that sentence will play in my head.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,036 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Duppers
(28,118 posts)Any stage and ballot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Upthevibe
(8,035 posts)WTF is he even doing?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
2naSalit
(86,534 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,036 posts)Bloombergs lack of national debate experience showed and he wasn't quick on retorts to Warren's attacks. His team needs to prep him better so he can anticipate the criticisms and talking points about his anti-women comments and harmful racial policies while he was mayor. Hopefully hell take to better coaching next time and have retorts handy. He also needs to speak more forcefully and confidently, and project leadership qualities as he did when he was mayor. I think a good strategy would be to point out all that he accomplished during his 3 terms as mayor of NY. Hes a darn good leader and we need someone with his caliber and status in the WH. That's IF Biden is not the nominee of course.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DIVINEprividence
(443 posts)Is it enough who knows? I lean toward Bloomberg but it is nice to see Warren get some respect because she has been treated rather shabbily by the press. Good for her. Remember. No matter how this shakes out. Bloomberg will drop a fortune to support the nominee. It is all good. Go team blue!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
C Moon
(12,212 posts)I just wish they would all focus on Trump. The country is at a horrible crossroads right now, our candidates better get their crap together.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McTwisty
(39 posts)How on earth do we expect women or POC to come out in mass to support him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Of the other candidates. He is flawed for sure but saying hes just like Trump is just not true
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,023 posts)I'm happy he supports Democrats, but he did, in fact, make right wing 1% talking points at least three times, by my count.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
womanofthehills
(8,697 posts)Esp women
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
onetexan
(13,036 posts)While i like her hard-hitting style, she needs to be directing it towards the Idiot and not her fellow Dem. I understand she's jockeying for POTUS but geez louize, stop eating your own. Not good to make frenemies given if you when the nomination you'll need the support of the others.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)"fellow Dem." Among other things, his 2018 contributions went to quite a few GOPer Senators who let the Criminally Deranged Thug in the WH off scott-free. The Thug continues his scofflaw ways as a result.
Trump wasn't on the debate stage last night. Bloomberg was. And he was definitely a stand-in for the CDT.
Go Elizabeth!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,036 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)and then endorsed Republicans AND contributed to the very poor specimens of human beings who now sit in the Senate.
For me, he is merely a Dem of convenience.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,036 posts)Sure he contributed to Republicans as well. So what? Alot of big donors contribute to both parties' candidates.
Here's another article about how he spent millions to help Dems win back the House. Hard to give him credit, eh?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/30/us/politics/michael-bloomberg-democrats-donate.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)for me, as you so graciously put it.
He changed to the Republican Party at around the time today's GOP was turning into what it has become; the real changes came in 1994 with Newt Gingrich, for anyone who was paying attention. I give Bloomberg credit for recognizing the brokenness of the GOP and changing to an Independent. But it took him until AFTER Barack Obama's Admin to return to the Democratic Party.
Why AFTER Obama? Why not before then or even during that Admin when Obama was facing a literal wall of GOP opposition? Perhaps only to run for President in 2020? Hmmm. To me, that smacks of being a "Democrat of convenience," much as Sanders does whenever he runs for President, but NOT for his Senate seat. For Bloomberg, it's also not just the party changes. It's the timing.
So while you may be a supporter, I am NOT one.
And that's that. Period.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)I tend to trust his hot take here, as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)The man said today that three should drop out that it was a two man race. Pretty arrogant when everyone else has been working their ass off for months.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)She speaks for me on every single issue, she spoke truth to power. She left him in the dust.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)Now that is fucked up.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(50,946 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Squinch
(50,946 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Warren came prepared and did the job that needed to be done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)She should be VP on the ticket.
I have come to GREATLY admire her over the last year. She takes no s*it from anyone, and she's remarkably down to earth in an extremely intellectual but folksy way. Because she HAS PERSISTED, she has my admiration and potentially my vote going forward.
(I didn't see the debate, but I heard bits on the radio).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,946 posts)This is the guy who said, "Donald Trump became president tonight" in response to a lame snorting speech, isn't it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Mouth
(3,148 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided